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[honza.vosalik]

TFTI Hope you guys didn't get into too much trouble

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LOL, it was more of a 5min visit in the parking lot at my work and his wife kept us in check.

 

[Outlawmws]

Great score, honza
You’re building up a very nice little collection of those Yorks.

And there's more coming soon!

But he can stop anytime!

 

[Outlawmws]

LOL, it was more of a 5min visit in the parking lot at my work and his wife kept us in check.

So more like a drug deal scenario...

 

[Productbob]

Honza nice addition to your workshop! What are you gonna do with the 206R??

 

[honza.vosalik]

Honza nice addition to your workshop! What are you gonna do with the 206R??

I don't have an exact plan yet

 

[Shiftless]

Honza:
I enjoyed meeting you too. It was a good trade. Each of us got what he wanted and didn’t even need any $$ to even things out. It must have looked pretty strange to anybody who happened to be watching the deal go down.
I had to drive 93 miles each way but my wife and I had a long lunch (after the vise deal) with some old friends who live not too far from Honza’s workplace. A very pleasant afternoon. I highly recommend other GJ members to find excuses to meet up with others. I have met with about 10 members over the years and had positive experiences with each one.

 

[Productbob]

Shift wholeheartedly agree. Meet Ken W. yesterday and throughly enjoyed the get together. We stayed out of the parking lots and chose the $ for vises route

 

[trijeff]

Honza and I also exchanged vises in that very lot. I actually worked there a few years ago and met a couple of old colleagues afterwards for lunch.

Agreed, great to meet fellow GJers, especially the vise heads. And sometimes their wives, like Shiftless' who busted out a KMScott grinding vise from her purse!

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[mdkcal]

Before & after.

 

[KMScott]

Before & after.

Looks pretty good, how did you repair it? Pic's are not showing your repair.

Here is a repair I did today on a 6-1/2" swivel jaw. This Parker #275 had the boss area broke and a attempt at a braze that failed. The pin that Parker uses to keep the swivel jaw in place caused the damage when tightened to much or was beat on. Tuff part to hold, had to make a fixture and tap two holes underneath the swivel jaw and used the swivel pin hole for the third tie down. I built a replacement part before machining the broken boss area. Carved a 2" pocket about a 1/2" deep and added three 5/16 cap screws. Came out pretty nice and thinking I should silver solder it for a permanent repair. Sure enjoy fixing these old work horses.

 

[Productbob]

KM excellent work as usual! enjoy the in-process pics

mdk looks good! how did you get from the ugly starting point to that good looking finished slide?

 

[kenc184]

Before & after.

Very nice! well, it's not brazed. Ni-99 rod?

 

[kenc184]

Honza:
I enjoyed meeting you too. It was a good trade. Each of us got what he wanted and didn’t even need any $$ to even things out. It must have looked pretty strange to anybody who happened to be watching the deal go down.
I had to drive 93 miles each way but my wife and I had a long lunch (after the vise deal) with some old friends who live not too far from Honza’s workplace. A very pleasant afternoon. I highly recommend other GJ members to find excuses to meet up with others. I have met with about 10 members over the years and had positive experiences with each one.

You're a good man. I think I would've said "lets meet half way".

 

[honza.vosalik]

Well, here it is. That thing is clean!

 

[va.grouseman]

Yep Honza, that one has low mileage.---Nice find.

 

[Shiftless]

I should post my side of the trade.

In exchange for my Reed 3C shown above, Honza gave me his recently acquired 1C and a nice 4 inch bullet.
It looks like they will clean up nicely. I’ve already got the Reed mostly apart for cleaning. The big swivel screw on the bottom came out easily using my big drag link socket. After a bit of penetrating oil, I was able to back out the screws holding in the jaw faces so those are off the towers.

The 1C will get refreshed and put on a display shelf. The bullet will get cleaned up, painted Verde Green and sold or traded away. Maybe I’ll find a swivel base?! Anybody have a spare?

Some might say I got a better deal, some might say Honza got a better deal. Each of us is happy and has a good vise trade story to tell, so that’s what’s most important.
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[MiamiVise]

After months of searching I finally found a replacement swivel base for my blue Prentiss no.22. I found this Frankenprentiss for fifty bucks and the swivel base is in great condition. The vise has had the swivel jaw broken in several places and when a puddle of braze didn’t work they decided to bolt it back together. I must admit it’s kind of interesting to look at.

Smitty if you don't paint this thing like Eddit Van Halen's Frankenstrat I'm going to be dissapointed.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Honza/Shift, Nice Reeds!!! I am scared of what I would pay for a C series if I ever came across one! Let alone one as nice as those!

I came across this "LHS" vise for sale. It looks like a Parker but doesnt seem to have any other marks. I checked the spreadsheet and found nothing. Any ideas on this??? it looks like someone made a new collar at some point.

 

[Smitty]

Smitty if you don't paint this thing like Eddit Van Halen's Frankenstrat I'm going to be dissapointed.

Does that come in a rattle can?

 

[MiamiVise]

Does that come in a rattle can?

3 cans, black white and red.

Spray it black
Dry
Painter's tape stripes
Spray it white
Dry
Painter's tape stripes
Spray it red.

 

[jrobb316]

3 cans, black white and red.

Spray it black
Dry
Painter's tape stripes
Spray it white
Dry
Painter's tape stripes
Spray it red.

That would be awesome

 

[MayerMR]

3 cans, black white and red.

Spray it black
Dry
Painter's tape stripes
Spray it white
Dry
Painter's tape stripes
Spray it red.

I just want to comment that your Username is a very clever play on words that I'm truly surprised hasn't been used before...

 

[rusty65]

Honza/Shift, Nice Reeds!!! I am scared of what I would pay for a C series if I ever came across one! Let alone one as nice as those!



I came across this "LHS" vise for sale. It looks like a Parker but doesnt seem to have any other marks. I checked the spreadsheet and found nothing. Any ideas on this??? it looks like someone made a new collar at some point.

I’d wager a bet that it’s a trade school built vise. The castings could have been made in house or purchased as a kit.


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[Smitty]

Home Depot had it in stock


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[MiamiVise]

MayerMR

Thanks. I live in NJ but I couldn't pass up the name once I saw it was still available. I'm dedicating an entire vise's paint job to this name and to use as my avatar. Should be arriving next week and I'll get it together some time after the 4th. I'm hoping it's so bad it's actually good.

Smitty

I love it hahaha

 

[flatfender53]

Hi all. I just finished a vise restoration project on an old Monarch Model 220 (I think these were made by Prentiss). It's a swivel base style with the single massive wing-nut mounting system. When I bought it, I didn't know anything about them and didn't realize the original swivel base plate was MIA. I made my own from an 8" round, 5/16" thick piece of A36 steel. It was supposed to be a simple thing, but it didn't really go as planned. I tried using a 3" hole saw but my drill press (Wen 4212) didn't have enough power to make the cut without stalling. It was lot of slow going, but I did shave and smoke my way through it. Besides that, this was a fun restoration and I made a video of the process.

Check it out here, if you're interested:

If anyone knows anything about when this model 220 would have been manufactured, please leave a comment! I'd love to learn something. Also, if anyone has any idea what the original base plate would have looked like, I'd love to know that too. Photos would be awesome!

 

[flatfender53]

Home Depot had it in stock


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This is the best thing I've seen all day.

Did they sell it by the case? If so, I'd stock up.

 

[va.grouseman]

Flatfender, could I see a pic of the bottom of the Monarch?---I would like to see how the square head bolt fits to the base.---I have a feeling it's like the Prentiss Shepard mounts.---Square head in a slot.

 

[jrobb316]

Flatfender - monarch was Prentiss's lighter duty line. Yours probably dates pre 1911, as that's when Prentiss had a patent for replacement jaw inserts. Here is my model 221, 5.5" stationary base. It has P.V.Co cast into it below the spindle, Prentiss vise company.

 

[Jcrapola]

I picked up this Reed No. 105 R vise yesterday at an estate sale. This is one heavy vise. I also picked up the tiny red vise marked 4.

Dayum Ken! That is a real beauty. Dint you just pickup a Reed 203R too? I have a 105R as my primary garage vise. Absolutely Love it.

 

[MiamiVise]

Finished this Dunlap 506-51770 today. It looks a lot better than it is. PO beat the **** out of it. Also, one of the jaw screws is completely sheared which the seller failed to tell me. I don't have the energy to drill it out and retap the hole. Not worth it. I have to save my energy for this goddamn seized up Morgan 140 I've been wrestling with for a week so far.

<a href="https://ibb.co/zs0xwfh"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/xhRLQ5S/Dunlap.png" alt="Dunlap" border="0"></a>

My 5244 is much bigger (both are 3 1/2 jaws) and must tighter and better built.

<a href="https://ibb.co/Hz9pbQw"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/R0J4sWr/2019-06-23-01-06-46.png" alt="2019-06-23-01-06-46" border="0"></a>

 

[ken w.]

Dayum Ken! That is a real beauty. Dint you just pickup a Reed 203R too? I have a 105R as my primary garage vise. Absolutely Love it.

Yeah I picked them both up. But I passed them both on to a fellow member here who needed them more than me. I have a 104 R and a 104 too.

 

[mdkcal]

Looks pretty good, how did you repair it? Pic's are not showing your repair.

It's a little bit of trick photography. A different angle and you'll maybe see what I did. I'll post more pictures of this soon when it's assembled and mounted to the bench.

For this fix I did pretty much what a lot of you have done, except I don't have a torch to braze and where I live, you'd never find anyone capable and willing to do a small job like that.
Degreased/derusted.
Stop drilled end of crack.
Drilled, counter bored and inserted two 1/4 cap screws from the side.
Plugged the cap screw holes with 3/8 rod.
Plugged the drill stop hole with press fit dowel.
Ground a groove along the crack.
Wanted to braze the top of the slide, but not able to and the whole top surface was concaved and beat pretty hard. Instead I mixed epoxy with a lot of cast iron drill chips and covered the entire top surface. Then sanded, filed, ground the surface flat and square. The sides of the slide also required about .020 removed to fit in the vise with a few thou clearance.

The surface looks metallic and is smooth and flat. We'll see how it works out. It does fit nice now.

 

[MiamiVise]

Anyone have any suggestion on how to make the "tool" he makes in this video @ 1:15 to open his seized vise? I'm having the exact same problem with my Morgan 140 and I don't have an entire machine shop to fabricate this.

I looked for something off the shelf at home depot that I could throw together but I couldn't find anything (besides the bolts) that would be strong or thick enough.

 

[KMScott]

It's a little bit of trick photography. A different angle and you'll maybe see what I did. I'll post more pictures of this soon when it's assembled and mounted to the bench.

For this fix I did pretty much what a lot of you have done, except I don't have a torch to braze and where I live, you'd never find anyone capable and willing to do a small job like that.
Degreased/derusted.
Stop drilled end of crack.
Drilled, counter bored and inserted two 1/4 cap screws from the side.
Plugged the cap screw holes with 3/8 rod.
Plugged the drill stop hole with press fit dowel.
Ground a groove along the crack.
Wanted to braze the top of the slide, but not able to and the whole top surface was concaved and beat pretty hard. Instead I mixed epoxy with a lot of cast iron drill chips and covered the entire top surface. Then sanded, filed, ground the surface flat and square. The sides of the slide also required about .020 removed to fit in the vise with a few thou clearance.

The surface looks metallic and is smooth and flat. We'll see how it works out. It does fit nice now.

Nice, Thumbs up. the screws are what is keeping the tail from splitting more. I thought you used epoxy. Let us know how it holds up.

 

[Outlawmws]

Anyone have any suggestion on how to make the "tool" he makes in this video @ 1:15 to open his seized vise? I'm having the exact same problem with my Morgan 140 and I don't have an entire machine shop to fabricate this.

I looked for something off the shelf at home depot that I could throw together but I couldn't find anything (besides the bolts) that would be strong or thick enough.

You don't need a machine shop - just find a pair of bars (scrap yard) that fit inside your vise jaws, grind to shape (4" mini grinder),OR add in a couple of pieces of shaped wood so you get an even push, drill and tap one bar 2X and go...

 

[va.grouseman]

They are still making OFF-SET, HYDRAULIC, AND FOOT-PEDAL vises.---But I'll just have a REED please.---Make that a double.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WESTWARD-3...-Bench-Vise-with-Stationary-Base/223012769738

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Posi-Lock-PHV859A-5-Ton-Hydraulic-Vise-10-000-PSI/173755518880

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PALGREN-WB...bination-Vise-00003-6CMV9-WH08-K/283030236832

 

[Shiftless]

va said...
“But I'll just have a REED please.---Make that a double.”

Let’s get some ideas for a cocktail by that name.

 

[trijeff]

2 parts Evaporust
1 part Simple Green
1 part BLO
spritz WD40
Marine grease & iron shavings rim

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[kenc184]

It's a little bit of trick photography. A different angle and you'll maybe see what I did. I'll post more pictures of this soon when it's assembled and mounted to the bench.

For this fix I did pretty much what a lot of you have done, except I don't have a torch to braze and where I live, you'd never find anyone capable and willing to do a small job like that.
Degreased/derusted.
Stop drilled end of crack.
Drilled, counter bored and inserted two 1/4 cap screws from the side.
Plugged the cap screw holes with 3/8 rod.
Plugged the drill stop hole with press fit dowel.
Ground a groove along the crack.
Wanted to braze the top of the slide, but not able to and the whole top surface was concaved and beat pretty hard. Instead I mixed epoxy with a lot of cast iron drill chips and covered the entire top surface. Then sanded, filed, ground the surface flat and square. The sides of the slide also required about .020 removed to fit in the vise with a few thou clearance.

The surface looks metallic and is smooth and flat. We'll see how it works out. It does fit nice now.

I never knew epoxy could look that good! Did you use JBWeld or clear?

I did braze weld similar damage on my Prentiss 56 (on this or the vise repair thread, I forget) and it took a TON of heat and I had to paint the slide afterwards to hide the brass color.