Orionrising
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or depending on door heights pour a 8" slab to match the height.~4k in concrete ish maybe less
Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
The low slab is radiant heat. 
Not sure I can go through that, just seems wrong.
Anyways here are some pictures, not in the mood for detailed descriptions tonight, but I should be able to update things tomorrow.
Not sure I can go through that, just seems wrong.
Anyways here are some pictures, not in the mood for detailed descriptions tonight, but I should be able to update things tomorrow.
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Orionrising
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hmm not sure if adding more thermal mass above a radiant slab would be an issue or not.
Grumblebum
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Looks pretty cool, just a little TLC needed.
Can you make a ramp from chequer plate steel between the 8" levels without impacting doors and such ?
GB
Can you make a ramp from chequer plate steel between the 8" levels without impacting doors and such ?
GB
There is a ramp already installed, but I would need to widen things out, the forklift may or may not transition well, having a load on it while going form one side to the other would be near impossible.
I have a feeling this is not going to happen quick, my Father is weird about this employee, he treats him more like a son than he treats either of his sons. I am trying to work out the details and get timelines, but there may be a contingency plan that creates a huge time delay for me to get the space. Everything hinges on what the employee wants to do............
I have a feeling this is not going to happen quick, my Father is weird about this employee, he treats him more like a son than he treats either of his sons. I am trying to work out the details and get timelines, but there may be a contingency plan that creates a huge time delay for me to get the space. Everything hinges on what the employee wants to do............
Plastikosmd
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Ironworker appears to be taking up valuable sq footage. I will store it for u
86turbodsl
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That's an awful flat roof on the house for Maine. What occured to me is the timber frame area doesn't really lend itself to vertical storage like pallet racking very well, so if you had racking in the other side to use the height you would need the lift in the timber frame part. Would that even work? I'm sure it would work ok for woodwork or metal Fab though.
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Duker
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I am biased toward the timber frame wood-shop.... move there....lol
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The timber frame would be just for the wood shop, I wouldn't setup any pallet racking there.
The house has been like that since the 1960s at least, the metal roofing is better than the original asphalt shingles. Only place we have ever had trouble with is around the chimney.
I did some investigating and Orion was correct, 75' is the setback from the stream and it does look like I would have more than enough room to build a good sized shop at the bottom of the driveway. This makes me feel better about the entire deal.
The house has been like that since the 1960s at least, the metal roofing is better than the original asphalt shingles. Only place we have ever had trouble with is around the chimney.
I did some investigating and Orion was correct, 75' is the setback from the stream and it does look like I would have more than enough room to build a good sized shop at the bottom of the driveway. This makes me feel better about the entire deal.
Orionrising
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Depending on the size of the stream check flood zones too at msc.fema.gov just to be careful before you count on anything.
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86turbodsl
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Well that changes everything! Sounds like you can do exactly what you want then, and get a proper shop / business setup at the front, and just walk back home when you want. Best of all worlds. I'm excited for you!
I will check into things soon, this week wasn’t a good one due to the holiday.
We still need to get over the hurdle of having the employee actually move, so I am not holding my breath. My GF refuses to move in until he is out of the shop too, she knows I have some issues with him.
We still need to get over the hurdle of having the employee actually move, so I am not holding my breath. My GF refuses to move in until he is out of the shop too, she knows I have some issues with him.
xtremek
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Sounds like a smart girl.
PelicanPines
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Is there space for my recliner and small fridge ? ... I need a plug for my UPS to power my CPAP. Oh and for my Echo Show.
jakemac
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Screw walking up the hill, get the bombardier running and have some fun with your commute. LOL
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86turbodsl
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The rz is that wonderful yellow, highly coveted motorcycle sitting in one of your shots. 2stroke street wheelie machine. I'm 2nd in line, btw.
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shortykorte
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Just cut into the hill. Use the dirt to fill in the stream. Lol.
So current shop would be over an hour drive to homestead? If so, I’m figuring away to get shop at Bottom of the hill. That barn shop is nice. I agree with setting up as two different spaces so there’s minimal need for transfer between levels.
And employee definitely needs to be completely gone from property.
Shorty Korte
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So current shop would be over an hour drive to homestead? If so, I’m figuring away to get shop at Bottom of the hill. That barn shop is nice. I agree with setting up as two different spaces so there’s minimal need for transfer between levels.
And employee definitely needs to be completely gone from property.
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I hope to find out more next week, but waiting to know what is going to happen is seriously painful. Between the mental aspects and the physical heat, I am just plain worn down. I have decided to try and take the summer off from buying anything not related to a current and finish-able project, the second part is key.
I still have a couple purchases that haven't been picked up, but they will need to be the last of them for a while. The things that I still need to get are:
The Yukon and plow with all engine and spare parts
The paint booth
The small pressure pot sandblast cabinet
The frame for the suburban down in Virginia, seller is really slow to get back to me, but I thought we had a deal, so I will give him a bit more time before scrubbing it from my list.
Last thing that could become part of the list is another Clark Ranger, if the guy tells me the forks are 5' or longer, I am buying it for certain. My current forks are only 4' and I need longer ones, plus it will give me a ton of spare parts for about the same money as the forks would cost me. Main reason I would buy is the ram that lifts the forks, mine is leaking bad and won't hold a load for any length of time. I really don't want to be without a forklift for weeks, so this would allow me to swap them, then have mine rebuilt (or not, depending on the condition of the other ram).
I still have a couple purchases that haven't been picked up, but they will need to be the last of them for a while. The things that I still need to get are:
The Yukon and plow with all engine and spare parts
The paint booth
The small pressure pot sandblast cabinet
The frame for the suburban down in Virginia, seller is really slow to get back to me, but I thought we had a deal, so I will give him a bit more time before scrubbing it from my list.
Last thing that could become part of the list is another Clark Ranger, if the guy tells me the forks are 5' or longer, I am buying it for certain. My current forks are only 4' and I need longer ones, plus it will give me a ton of spare parts for about the same money as the forks would cost me. Main reason I would buy is the ram that lifts the forks, mine is leaking bad and won't hold a load for any length of time. I really don't want to be without a forklift for weeks, so this would allow me to swap them, then have mine rebuilt (or not, depending on the condition of the other ram).
xtremek
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I like your plan of trying to tie up loose ends. I'm trying to get into the same mode.
My loose ends seem to be the entire problem. This might be a weird analogy, but I remember my GF talking about hair, she would get haircuts without really needing a haircut, in fact she would get them even when growing out her hair. I was like WTF?? She explained to me that hair gets damaged ends and split ends, if you don't cut them off, they go further up the hair and damage and weaken it more. So she would get the ends trimmed and the hair would look better and grow faster. I guess all my "loose ends" are more like "split ends" and maybe if I trim back some of the projects and get a hair cut things will get done faster?
Today I had a little help, we didn't do a lot, but we did prep the wire and remaining coax I have been shuffling around for a few months now. It felt good to see it prepped, now I have to decide on if I am taking it to the scrap yard or if I am going to save it for the future, I think I forgot to mention that I have been talking to a guy about a wire granulator, I know I didn't put that on my list, it was off my radar until today. The guy is asking bargain basement pricing for a granulator, conveyor system, and all the things needed to get it up and running, the price is less than 1/3 of just a granulator on eBay. I feel like it would be worth the risk or investment, however you look at it. Long term it could bring in thousands of extra dollars a month if I were to buy wire from local electricians and demo people. I could pay more than the scrap yard because after processing it, it would be worth a lot more than just the wire. My local yard told me they would shop for a buyer of the copper granules and that they would be willing to work with me on it. Anyways, it was another thing I have been thinking about for the last few months.
I did order parts from ebay to fix my portable bandsaw, I have needed that about a dozen times since I broke it, had to keep finding hack work arounds to make the cuts. I figure at this rate I should be caught up by about 2025. The burb is starting hard, so I tested the batteries individually (fine), then tested the voltage when starting (fine), then tested the alternator (fine), so I think it is a bad cable between the starter and the main battery. I will need to buy some cable so I can make a new one, I figure I should just replace all the battery cables, there is enough age and heat under the hood that they are probably pretty cooked inside the jacket.
Today I had a little help, we didn't do a lot, but we did prep the wire and remaining coax I have been shuffling around for a few months now. It felt good to see it prepped, now I have to decide on if I am taking it to the scrap yard or if I am going to save it for the future, I think I forgot to mention that I have been talking to a guy about a wire granulator, I know I didn't put that on my list, it was off my radar until today. The guy is asking bargain basement pricing for a granulator, conveyor system, and all the things needed to get it up and running, the price is less than 1/3 of just a granulator on eBay. I feel like it would be worth the risk or investment, however you look at it. Long term it could bring in thousands of extra dollars a month if I were to buy wire from local electricians and demo people. I could pay more than the scrap yard because after processing it, it would be worth a lot more than just the wire. My local yard told me they would shop for a buyer of the copper granules and that they would be willing to work with me on it. Anyways, it was another thing I have been thinking about for the last few months.
I did order parts from ebay to fix my portable bandsaw, I have needed that about a dozen times since I broke it, had to keep finding hack work arounds to make the cuts. I figure at this rate I should be caught up by about 2025. The burb is starting hard, so I tested the batteries individually (fine), then tested the voltage when starting (fine), then tested the alternator (fine), so I think it is a bad cable between the starter and the main battery. I will need to buy some cable so I can make a new one, I figure I should just replace all the battery cables, there is enough age and heat under the hood that they are probably pretty cooked inside the jacket.
TwoBytes
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I like the hair analogy. I think I could do with a haircut too.
I am headed to the shop today, but of cleaning, but really need to get prepped to weld some aluminum. I figure I have a bit of cleaning to do, going to put all the wire into barrels and save it for a later date. Copper is pretty low right now anyways. I will post some pictures of my mess when I get there.
xtremek
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Back to Plan A. Bummer.
PelicanPines
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Plan B is a pill I think...
Will you get the shop tho... that space was great...
Will you get the shop tho... that space was great...
Not for a while. Basically I have talked to my Father about this employee and how we need to bring them back to reality, at this point Dad has agreed that we will pay all wages above board and the employee will pay all taxes, then write a check each month for rent and the electricity for the house, there will still be some fluff that he gets as a fringe benefit, but if this stays too comfy he will never want to leave. This way he gets pushed into reality and starts to think he would rather spend his money on a house of his own. Stay tuned, my Dad likes to change his mind like most guys do with TV channels.......
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I missed some of the setup of that story... that *****... so basically... "the employee" is your sans brother with family benefits via your dad...
Yea he ain't going anywhere...
Yea he ain't going anywhere...
That is my biggest fear.
Dad and I had a very good conversation last night, he thinks we should set a valid timeline for the employee to be out of the house and shop. Not talking about a quick one, but a binding date, more like 5 years. Depending on if I can still deal with the crazy lady and get the other house, the one essentially at my current shop, then this would be fine for me, it will take me that long to rebuild the house. Then I would have a larger chunk of equity and a house to rent.
Dad and I had a very good conversation last night, he thinks we should set a valid timeline for the employee to be out of the house and shop. Not talking about a quick one, but a binding date, more like 5 years. Depending on if I can still deal with the crazy lady and get the other house, the one essentially at my current shop, then this would be fine for me, it will take me that long to rebuild the house. Then I would have a larger chunk of equity and a house to rent.
Perrorojo
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Been in that situation and it's a loser every time. If the employee wants the house, they can get a loan and buy it. If they can't get a loan, put it on a land contract with hard terms. Your dad isn't a bank and the longer the person gets to enjoy the benefits the harder they'll fight when you take them away.
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My Dad acts like the guy has worked for him forever, yet in reality, it has been about 11 years. I understand that is still a long time, but not really in the big picture. Regardless, I think Dad is actually going to work towards making things a little less comfortable. My fingers are crossed.
So now that the shop situation is on hold for the foreseeable future, I am back to having two inside forklifts and I only need one. I have looked things over and it looks like my original unit is the better choice to keep. I will swap the forks (orange one seems like they are new), swap the batteries, swap the steering wheel and a few other fancy bits, then send the orange one packing. I am pretty convinced that I should be able to get close to what I paid for it and even at a little loss, the upgrades I end up with are well worth the money, battery alone is about $2000 for a used one. Only issue I am a bit concerned with is the wire terminals, looks like I will have to fish the positive terminal through the frame while it is still hot. I am pretty sure if the ground is not connected, that the positive shouldn't weld itself to anything, but I will put some heat shrink over the exposed part before doing anything.
I am also convinced that I need another conex, but I will have to wait a month or two, my budget doesn't have enough room right now. I am going to use the new one to store the random **** that shouldn't be in the shop right now. I figure giving myself some room is the best situation, then I can concentrate on fixing things that need to be fixed and the plan is to do this one at a time. I also can start selling the things that need to go and not have a *********** when the buyer shows up. The goal is to have the shop ready for winter, this way I can actually use the shop all winter, rather than having to deal with a mess.
86 will be happy, one of the projects that I want to get to is the Aerowave welder. First thing is to get cleaned up, probably going to remove some lista cabinets too, I can install them in the conex and store things out there. right now there is just a crazy amount of "deep storage" items in the shop. I feel the shop should be for current projects and my generally used tools, not for storage of things not needed all the time.
So now that the shop situation is on hold for the foreseeable future, I am back to having two inside forklifts and I only need one. I have looked things over and it looks like my original unit is the better choice to keep. I will swap the forks (orange one seems like they are new), swap the batteries, swap the steering wheel and a few other fancy bits, then send the orange one packing. I am pretty convinced that I should be able to get close to what I paid for it and even at a little loss, the upgrades I end up with are well worth the money, battery alone is about $2000 for a used one. Only issue I am a bit concerned with is the wire terminals, looks like I will have to fish the positive terminal through the frame while it is still hot. I am pretty sure if the ground is not connected, that the positive shouldn't weld itself to anything, but I will put some heat shrink over the exposed part before doing anything.
I am also convinced that I need another conex, but I will have to wait a month or two, my budget doesn't have enough room right now. I am going to use the new one to store the random **** that shouldn't be in the shop right now. I figure giving myself some room is the best situation, then I can concentrate on fixing things that need to be fixed and the plan is to do this one at a time. I also can start selling the things that need to go and not have a *********** when the buyer shows up. The goal is to have the shop ready for winter, this way I can actually use the shop all winter, rather than having to deal with a mess.
86 will be happy, one of the projects that I want to get to is the Aerowave welder. First thing is to get cleaned up, probably going to remove some lista cabinets too, I can install them in the conex and store things out there. right now there is just a crazy amount of "deep storage" items in the shop. I feel the shop should be for current projects and my generally used tools, not for storage of things not needed all the time.
Ended up having pi_guy visit today, he PMd me and said he was headed to Maine and was bored, another GJ connection!
Before he arrived, I got a bunch cleaned up, made a different mess. Brought some things to the conex to make a bit more room, still need to bring some more stuff out there, also need to assemble some shelves. I don't want to go too crazy loading the conex up as I need to move it before winter. I should probably get it moved this month, then I can load it up.
Before he arrived, I got a bunch cleaned up, made a different mess. Brought some things to the conex to make a bit more room, still need to bring some more stuff out there, also need to assemble some shelves. I don't want to go too crazy loading the conex up as I need to move it before winter. I should probably get it moved this month, then I can load it up.