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Able to identify this drill press (I think it's German)

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Anyone able to put me in the direction of that drill press this might be ? (I think it is German).

Haven't inspected it, and for all I know it might be "beyond" repair, but it might turn into a "project" :)
 

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Starting to think it might be a "Webo type E32" - anyone got any info/manuals for these ?
 
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No clue but it's always sad to see something like that left out in the elements.

Yea, thinking the same, just dragged it back home today, so been put under a tarpaulin tonight, and will be moved "in house" tomorrow.....:) will see eventually if it's salvagable, atleast the "front wheel" turned nicely around....but have only barely had a look at it.....:)
 

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I'm no help on ID'ing it, but hope you save it.

How people take beautiful machinery like that and leave it to ruin just amazes me....
 
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Well, post some better pics of the head and we can likely tell. Most likely it does.

Here you go :) Would also be able to get any tips on what that round container on the side might be - looks like it got electric cables going in - so maybe been a switch at one time (but eventually bypassed I guess)
 

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Yes, looks like power down feed, pretty sure that's what the driveshaft behind the spindle is for. The round cannister does look like a switch, possibly had a knob with off in the center and fwd/rev to either side. Switch may still be there and operable, might just need a knob. Looks like a very impressive machine, hope you are able to save it.
 

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There is a similar drill press at work, but it is US made. In the one pic you can see a bit of chain on yours, behind the splined shaft...chain should run up, and back into the main casting where it presumably attached to a counterweight, for raising/lowering the quill.

In the shot upwards looking at the head, the chain should go into the rectangular hole. Looks like the sprockets are missing.
 

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Here are some pics if that wasn't clear.
 

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Quite positive this muct be a WEBO drill press, found this on the net that looks to have some parts that are more or less identical - also think the sign about the oil is looking to be the same....but still unsure about the model.....
 

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Also started to do a "tear down" of this drillpress for those interested - so far doesn't look to shabby, even though there was a tiny bit of water that drained from the gear housing (but seem that there is "ridge" down to where you drain out oil, so doesn't look like the gears have seen much water (the crusty rust on one of the "gears" I think is from something else)....

The "switch" sadly have seen both water and "mud", so not sure if that will be salvagable - but hope so - see it is 9 wires going from the switch up to the motor area, so guess this indicate this switch is the one that controls forward/rev ?. Never seen this kind of switch so any tips on name/type would be appreciated :)

This will however probably take quite some time for me to restore as I have to take it "in between" - but at least will give it a try :)
 

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I'm pretty sure you can save it. :D

I took this, which had been out in the Alaskan weather for over a decade...

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And turned it into this...

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Without any particularly amazing effort. I won't lie, there was a lot of labor there, but 90% of the rust was easily killed with the common electrolysis method- even the big main "tree" casting, which I just had to make a temporary "tub" for with 2x12s and Visqueen.

The only thing that's been holding me up is a broken gear, which I don't have the tooling to make nor have I been able to find a replacement.

Take lots of digital photos of the teardown, especially of the smaller components- hold them so that the picture gives you an idea how they go back together. That was an invaluable help for me.

Derust, brush-polish the exposed parts, paint with a good alkyd enamel, replace any bearings or broken parts, and since it's almost certainly 3-phase, ditch the switch entirely and wire in a VFD.

And show us as you go. :D

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I'm pretty sure you can save it. :D

I took this, which had been out in the Alaskan weather for over a decade...

rockford04.jpg


And turned it into this...

rockford17.jpg


Without any particularly amazing effort. I won't lie, there was a lot of labor there, but 90% of the rust was easily killed with the common electrolysis method- even the big main "tree" casting, which I just had to make a temporary "tub" for with 2x12s and Visqueen.

The only thing that's been holding me up is a broken gear, which I don't have the tooling to make nor have I been able to find a replacement.

Take lots of digital photos of the teardown, especially of the smaller components- hold them so that the picture gives you an idea how they go back together. That was an invaluable help for me.

Derust, brush-polish the exposed parts, paint with a good alkyd enamel, replace any bearings or broken parts, and since it's almost certainly 3-phase, ditch the switch entirely and wire in a VFD.

And show us as you go. :D

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Looking good :)

Yea I think/hope I'l be able to restore it, I'm def will do updates (might put it in it's own thread) - although it probably will take some time, so slow progress expected :)

Did you use the electrolysis on the "sliding" part for the table as well ? - or any tips on what you used there ?.

It's def a 3 phase motor on it, and I'm most likely will put in a VFD, but will try to salvage the switch as well for fun, and "authenticity" :)
 
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Uhm, it's already in its own thread...……...



Well somehow, but was realy a thread to try to identify it, but guess I'l keep it here anyway :)

Anyone got any tips on how to split this electric motor, I'v taken off the back-cover and bearing, but a bit unsure which way I should get it out - and if I need to pry off the black "spline" seperatly.

Also if anyone have seen this kind if spline before and know what it's called that woud be of interest as well......and maybe if something similar might be available today if I brake it in the process (it seem to be made out of some type of "plastic" like material......

Also the thin metal shroud in the back doesn't seem to move out easily so any tips on that would also be great - a puller is most likely not feasable......maybe some kind of bearing puller if it would be possible to get it all they way on the inside of the thin metal, close to the rod....
 

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Trying out a bit of electrolysis rust removal for the first time, at least started a bit on the rebuild :)

Before/after pics :)
 

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Hey there,

I think I got the same drill press. How is your project running so far? I bought it for about 150€ 1-2 years ago and just turned it on in my shop for the first time :D there are still some things to figure out...

good luck, and if you have any questions I'd be glad to help.... I'll upload some fotos, and I can measure the weight for you, if you want to!
 

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That going to be a fun interesting and a learning project, looks like you got it out of the weather in time. Keep us posted with pics. BCD.
 
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Hey there,

I think I got the same drill press. How is your project running so far? I bought it for about 150€ 1-2 years ago and just turned it on in my shop for the first time :D there are still some things to figure out...

good luck, and if you have any questions I'd be glad to help.... I'll upload some fotos, and I can measure the weight for you, if you want to!

Some pics of yours would be nice - did you ever take off the "quill"?

The project has been on hold for quite some time (turned up a CNC mill I had to sort out first).

Hopefully get back to the drillpress in not the to distant future....:)
Any tips on removing that stubborn gib key on the "handle" center is still appreciated....
 
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did you ever take off the "quill"?
Any tips on removing that stubborn gib key on the "handle" center is still appreciated....

Hi,

I had some tangetial play in die quil and the setscrew wasn't holding firm enough to get rid of it.. so i crossdrilled the setscrew with a hardend pin :dunno:

not the best sollution, but as i wasnt able to remove the quil, it was the only option that crossed my mind.

i'll post some photos, but I'm quite busy at the moment.

If you can post some details on your problematic "gib key handle center" problem, I'll check on that ;)
 
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