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[Shiftless]

Yes sir, 4” jaws. Seems to work quite well. $10!


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You got a hell of a good deal!

 

[bastel]

Part of todays vise haul. Little car was severely overloaded with 6 vises.
I feared it, and yes one of it was a model 6 7" Heuer Primus DRP.
The 5" I restored is handy and I thought the 6" was big, but yeah you can always top that with the next size.

 

[akasrick]

Looks like "Red" is trying to sell a vise.

akasrick

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Mark in Indiana


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Thanks.
My 5160 had the nut replaced with an all thread connecting nut and the spindle replaced with a length of all thread to work with the connecting nut. Pictures coming soon.

 

[Vise]

Finished the Parker 978 today. There’s no paint on the vise or the stand, used Sculpt Nouveau products to darken and seal the bare metal. Vise weighs 298lbs and the stand weighs 270. It turns like a dream.

Here are some before and after pics:







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[Outlawmws]

Looks great! But I hope its where you want it!

 

[Smitty]

Vise
You did a beautiful job on the 978. The vise really seems to pop on that stand and the sculpted finish sets it off. I can tell you put quite a bit of time into the top plate and the thicker steel really seems to stand out. Well done!

 

[Woodreaux]

Finished the Parker 978 today. There’s no paint on the vise or the stand, used Sculpt Nouveau products to darken and seal the bare metal. Vise weighs 298lbs and the stand weighs 270. It turns like a dream.

Here are some before and after pics:







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What's the story on the stand? It's pretty incredible and the perfect match to your vise

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[chrisnazzy]

Part of todays vise haul. Little car was severely overloaded with 6 vises.
I feared it, and yes one of it was a model 6 7" Heuer Primus DRP.
The 5" I restored is handy and I thought the 6" was big, but yeah you can always top that with the next size.

Bastel

Seems like you may be able to answer a couple questions I've got.

I was given a small model no. 2 Heuer DRP vise last year. It's jaws are just a hair over 70mm or 2.75". Wondering if you (or anyone else) know what size this vise would have been originally listed as. Also what's the approx timeframe these style Heuer vises were made and were they ever sold in the U.S.?

Thanks!

(Baby bullet for size reference)

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[Z3K3Y]

If I remember correctly, The stand is the base of an old woodworking table saw.

 

[bastel]

Bastel

Seems like you may be able to answer a couple questions I've got.

I was given a small model no. 2 Heuer DRP vise last year. It's jaws are just a hair over 70mm or 2.75". Wondering if you (or anyone else) know what size this vise would have been originally listed as. Also what's the approx timeframe these style Heuer vises were made and were they ever sold in the U.S.?

I translated a 1938 catalogue page (Zoll is the german word for inch, I didn't translate that, because I didn't want to ):

It’s not listed there but it is always in inch increments, a #2 should be 3” but it’s not mm exact.
This design was made from 1928 - 1945. There were some different versions with dust cap and some more words stamped in.
Dunno if sold in the states. Maybe some came back with soldiers after WW2?

 

[ColumbianRon]

Here's a very typical Craftsman 506-51800 that I bought from EBay pretty cheap. It came in the original orange/red color but the paint was a little beat up. No damage anywhere, really nice jaws. It has the swivel nut and spindle handle with the tapered ends. Wire brushed and a little flap wheel treatment back to bare iron. I'm going to leave it with just an oil coating. No more project vises in the garage now, so I'll have to get back on the hunt.

Love the color of that natural iron.

 

[Vise]

Thanks for the kind words, guys. A lot of hours into it, but I'm happy with it.

Smitty - Much thanks. The plate was actually the hard part. So glad it came together.

Outlaw - It's not moving for the foreseeable future. Thanks.

Woodreux - As Z3K3Y said, it is the base off an old table saw that I modified.

Will be interested to see how the metal oil and clear guard hold up over time.

 

[wrenchguy]

Finished the Parker 978 today. There’s no paint on the vise or the stand, used Sculpt Nouveau products to darken and seal the bare metal. Vise weighs 298lbs and the stand weighs 270. It turns like a dream.

Badass!

 

[Serrat Yasargil]

Vise,
It is absolute perfection and the stand is a natural fit and complement for the 978. The base plate was the hard part?! I bet the hard part was moving and manipulating it all for the restor. Did you use clear or black script wax And?? Oil? It is beautiful and it shows its natural color as it should.

Should it ever come, I want to be first in line.

Please share more pictures of the restor and finish and your other monsters!!!!
Damn. I love it!

 

[Vise]

Vise,
It is absolute perfection and the stand is a natural fit and complement for the 978. The base plate was the hard part?! I bet the hard part was moving and manipulating it all for the restor. Did you use clear or black script wax And?? Oil? It is beautiful and it shows its natural color as it should.

Should it ever come, I want to be first in line.

Please share more pictures of the restor and finish and your other monsters!!!!
Damn. I love it!

Thanks, Serrat. The plate was a challenge because it's 1/2" thick and I had to line up the mounting holes on the vise, and the holes to be drilled and tapped into the base. I also had to create another 1/8" thick steel plate as a vineer on top to cover some of the bolt holes coming up through the base. But, yeah, lifting it wasnt easy either

On the stand I used Sculpt Nouveau Traditional Black Patina (a pain to use, and difficult to keep flash rust away) and then Black metal oil and Clear Guard. On the vise I used just Black metal oil and clear guard. I may still apply clear metal wax to the vise, but this will change the look of the finish a bit.

I took some video of the 978 restoration work and may post a video at some point.

Next up is the Rock Island 67 which is currently being worked on. Here's a couple pics of that:




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[bastel]

Just in. A while ago I asked about a little vise and was told it to be a small bison vise. I also mentioned that mini vises kinda rot on our classifieds. Went there searched for mini vise and of course tons. One blurry photo looked like an american square boxy design. Well that's odd I thought. Peddinghaus record? So I got it. Has 2" jaws and, except for the deep cut somebody made, looking good. Dark reddish paint job. Did some google image search and I have a hunch what it might be. Might be wrong, tough. If I am right, don't ask for the price I paid

 

[mikeswrenches]

Looks like the small Prentiss jewelers vise to me. Nice score!

 

[rusty65]

Just in. A while ago I asked about a little vise and was told it to be a small bison vise. I also mentioned that mini vises kinda rot on our classifieds. Went there searched for mini vise and of course tons. One blurry photo looked like an american square boxy design. Well that's odd I thought. Peddinghaus record? So I got it. Has 2" jaws, and except for the deep cut somebody made looking good. Dark reddish paint job. Did some google image search and I have a hunch what it might be. Might be wrong, tough. If I am right, don't ask for the price I paid

That’s crazy the vise found it’s way there. I guess it kind of supports my theory that those were issued during ww2 in field service kits. Take the vise apart and I bet you will find pvco on the main nut.


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[454ragtop]

Bastel, looks like a Prentiss.

Anybody looking for a Columbian fabricated plate steel vise? One on Ebay, pretty reasonable (best offer available also) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ni...495339?hash=item1a8846ddab:g:H1EAAOSwKKZdxPIt

 

[bastel]

Thanks, so my hunch might be right.
I found some instagram post with such a vise looking really, really similar, up to the color, even the punched in numbers on the under side the other had, too. Was just in better mintish shape.
Rusty, will check that soon.
The big groove in the jaws ***** a bit, but it really was just an impulse buy (don't get mad: 7€ + 4.5€ shipping), not knowing what I was getting, so I can't complain .
Yeah strange how it ended up in Germany...

 

[Outlawmws]

Yeah, you **** Bastel...

 

[mikeswrenches]

Chopsaw, the Vise was patented by Carl Shields of Rock Island, Illinois. Patent no. 1,111,103.

Mike

 

[Ryan_340]

Bought this 6 1/2" jaw Wilton 1765 tradesman tonight for $80. No hammer or saw marks, and the jaws are clean!

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Hello Vise Friends:
Just finished my restoration of a Simplex 33S machinist vise.
Here are some after & before pictures.
Now I just need to find a good home for it.

 

[jonshonda]

Anyone know what the thread info is for the swivel bolt that holds the base to the static body of a Reed 2C?

 

[sandman54]

I translated a 1938 catalogue page (Zoll is the german word for inch, I didn't translate that, because I didn't want to ):

It’s not listed there but it is always in inch increments, a #2 should be 3” but it’s not mm exact.
This design was made from 1928 - 1945. There were some different versions with dust cap and some more words stamped in.
Dunno if sold in the states. Maybe some came back with soldiers after WW2?

Go to page 808 4th post from the bottom are some of my German vises. the post is done by professor K.M. Scott.

 

[Shiftless]

Hey, Sandman...
Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for adding those pages of info and the great vintage pics. You’re a wealth of information.

 

[bastel]

Go to page 808 4th post from the bottom are some of my German vises. the post is done by professor K.M. Scott.

Read up a bit, it's got to be big and ideally german, eh?
Gotta secure my Zeus VS6 then before it gets shipped away
Everything else you already got so it seems (maybe not post war east german stuff).

 

[KMScott]

Here are a few more pic:s of Sandmans European vises. Hope ya don't mind Sandman, saves looking way back. Bastel enjoy reading your posts and the vises you are finding.

 

[bastel]

Here are a few more pic:s of Sandmans European vises. Hope ya don't mind Sandman, saves looking way back. Bastel enjoy reading your posts and the vises you are finding.

Nice.

An S200... had one these beasts in my watch list for a week or two, got taken down today, I hope sold, not scrapped (6" cast is the most I can handle in one piece, gotta lift them by hand, and >50kg is enough to be not so fun anymore. Heuer DRP 7" at 36kg is child's play ).

That are many tube System Koch vises He gotta be careful, honza.vosalik might visit. (I got two S125 to spare, but they are not a single parcel shipments). The Star trademark I've seen on a few vises on the classifieds. I have not figured out which company that is. If it says No.X on the other side, this is what M&W did, but then it should not be a star but either MW or the M&W logo. Saw a 8" M&W tube just two days ago on the classifieds.. I hope they find homes but I fear the worst.

Boley and Leinen are great vises, though I prefer the Meier&Weichelt/LES HS, of course. (What I noticed that M&W used to be with static jaw sticking out at the end like the others, but then either the dynamic jaw body became longer or they cut of part of the static body to save material. This is a problem when opening it real wide because it puts a lot of stress on the slide.)

 

[sandman54]

Here are a few newbies to my collection. Enjoy!!

 

[rusty65]

Here are a few newbies to my collection. Enjoy!!

What is that?



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[bastel]

Here are a few newbies to my collection. Enjoy!!

That S200 there has the GISAG logo on it. Biggest 'comglomerate' foundry in east germany. So first you had Meier & Weichelt, that got renamed into LES in 47/48 and in 69 it and a few other 'companies' were made into GISAG. They made cast stuff and build/exported complete foundries..

 

[Vise]

Here are a few newbies to my collection. Enjoy!!

Very nice collection. I like that 67, looks very clean.

 

[Productbob]

Sandman, impressive collection!
Mark good job on the Simplex

 

[tool_scrounge]

Not in the vise spreadsheet yet so I thought I would post photos.

Paramo No 00 bench vice with swivel base. Made in the UK after WWII but I do not know when.

2.25" wide jaws
2.25" max opening
weight: 8.3 lbs

Nice tiny vise for small work.

 

[bastel]

Here some System Koch tube vises for Sandman and honza.vosalik from the last vise haul.
First one is an LES and the other a Spannwerkzeuge Zeulenroda. The LES has some heavy duty custom jaw inserts for better vertical clamping I guess.
Both will be for interested parties, but alas they are 125mm, so a tad heavy.

And of course a VS4. A bit rusty beneath the paint, but a good wire wheeling should take care of that.

Was an interesting trip, cramming all of this (+ the Heuers and a 140mm Breitenfeld&Scholz) into a very little car (kinda reached the load limit, but super nice gas mileage! )

 

[bastel]

Trying word magic on the classifieds today...
Found another VS4 sitting in plain sight at the other end of the country for 50 bucks... hmm. Maybe if I send an empty parcel.. (a1 interested in a VS4?).
And another with some strange other vise as set for 50 but might be a VS2, gotta ask. Also somewhere far away. Anyways that¡s not what this is about: I believe I found something interesting 'close' by, the price is prohibitive, though (110€). The swivel lock pull pin and shape make me think Prentiss, but there is only a 21 on the top visible? It's 5". Seems to have a swivel jaw.

 

[wrenchguy]

yep prentiss double swivler, i got a rough 1 with some weird stampings on it. that rear ledge gets beat on most of them.