Question about small vintage Stanley clamp on vise

[bareass172]

Hello all, it's been awhile since I've had time to be involved on here, but the passion for this stuff does continue.
I have a question if anyone has dealt with this before. I'm restoring a handful of small projects, amongst them is this little Stanley vise. There is a spring retainer clip holding the main screw in place and taking out slop. I cannot figure out how to remove this clip so I can disassemble the vise entirely.

If the pics aren't clear enough, it is slotted almost like a figure 8 for the bottom post and the screw. It is retained under the screw. There is no wiggle room to work it from under the screw and the clip is not slotted to open...

Any help is appreciated!

 

[drivesitfar]

BA: since you just started this thread it might work best if you cut and paste the wording and paste it and new pictures over on the vise repair 101 thread.

sadly i'm not a huge fan of these little open screw vises even though i own more than a few, but I haven't taken any apart yet.

I know many members have so if you post on the 101 thread you might get a quick response. I wonder what happens if you just unscrew the screw all the way out or does it stop?

also I for one want to give you a WELCOME BACK SIR and i'm still envious of your shop organization. I'm still trying to figure out where to put the PVC to hold my battery operated tools.

cheers and good luck

 

[exmaxima1]

Looks like the slide pins need to be removed to release that clip.

 

[The Cobbler]

^^X2

 

[bareass172]

That's all I'm seeing too... I did copy this into the vise thread. Thanks!

 

[drivesitfar]

BA: copy to the VISE REPAIR 101 thread in this vintage section too cause it's got some eyes that the vise thread might not.

good luck and i'm guessing your question and dilemma is fairly common so best of luck anyway.

 

[drivesitfar]

BA: I see you did post it on the 101 thread so excuse my prior post.

I'm not sure if E clips or snap rings are the replacement if your break your clip or piece, but that seems to be what i've heard is the fix.

 

[bareass172]

sadly i'm not a huge fan of these little open screw vises even though i own more than a few, but I haven't taken any apart yet.

Obviously I'm not doing big work with it, and it's no match for a real vise, but I like the convenience of being able to put it wherever I might need an extra hand. I use it a lot for small soldering jobs by my iron when I'm not using my gator clip extra hand thing.

QUOTE=drivesitfar;8200083]I wonder what happens if you just unscrew the screw all the way out or does it stop?[/QUOTE]
The clip is under the screw in a groove so I can't remove it that way.

Looks like the slide pins need to be removed to release that clip.

Unfortunately that's all I'm seeing too. Hoping someone on here has dealt with this and can shed some light!

I'm not sure if E clips or snap rings are the replacement if your break your clip or piece, but that seems to be what i've heard is the fix.

I had considered that as a possibility. Obviously I'd prefer to keep it original, if possible.

Thanks for any ideas!

 

[gungatim]

if you read the patent, the part about how it is assembled, it suggests those rods are a press fit (photos as well as the text on page 2) and are pressed in after the spring clip and screw are assembled.

you could try some heat and try to pull them, if you gouge them up the rods could be easily replaced I would think with some round stock.

 

[drivesitfar]

BA: another option is to put your little vise in an electrolysis tank to clean it up while leaving the original clip on and then re grease and start using it after BLO or painting it? or just use Simple green or another one of your favorite cleaners and just spiff it up.

i'm guessing you are trying to remove it so you can paint your vise or get some crud out of the space behind and just in front of the clip?

if i'm cleaning a vise and the vise nut and screw are working fine I just do what I can with a few tools and cleaners to spiff it up and then re grease and put it to work or back on the shelf.

good luck

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

 

[Farmer J.]

I dunno how that handy little vice was put together, or how it may come apart, but we have a saying:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
so it may be OK if you just leave it all together and clean it up as Drives suggests. J

 

[bareass172]

if you read the patent, the part about how it is assembled, it suggests those rods are a press fit (photos as well as the text on page 2) and are pressed in after the spring clip and screw are assembled.

you could try some heat and try to pull them, if you gouge them up the rods could be easily replaced I would think with some round stock.

I've never looked up a patent before, so I admit I would have never seen that. Thank you so much for telling me!

BA: another option is to put your little vise in an electrolysis tank to clean it up while leaving the original clip on and then re grease and start using it after BLO or painting it? or just use Simple green or another one of your favorite cleaners and just spiff it up.

i'm guessing you are trying to remove it so you can paint your vise or get some crud out of the space behind and just in front of the clip?

if i'm cleaning a vise and the vise nut and screw are working fine I just do what I can with a few tools and cleaners to spiff it up and then re grease and put it to work or back on the shelf.

I dunno how that handy little vice was put together, or how it may come apart, but we have a saying:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
so it may be OK if you just leave it all together and clean it up as Drives suggests.

Functionally the vise works fine right now, but I was hoping to clean it up and make it look nice to give it as a Xmas gift. I have a friend I think will really use it, and currently it's a little ratty. I thought restoring it before gifting it would be a nice personal touch. I get what you're driving at though, I've ruined things before trying to "fix" them.

As always, thanks so much for the advice and opinions.

 

[drivesitfar]

BA: whether you take the little vise all apart or just do the best you can to clean it up without taking it apart please post up a few pics. hope your friend enjoys this cause even though it's not a spendy item it is taking up a lot of your brain time to make it as nice as possible for him.

take care and blow some of that heat up our way.