Insulation sandwiched between steel siding?

[wantacoe]

A friend called me and said he saw some stuff I might be interested in. It has about 3" insulation sandwiched between steel roofing/siding. 3' wide by 30' long.
Where would this stuff be used and how? thanks

 

[readhead]

Insulated panels. Usually have some kind of tongue groove joint. Some screw through the joint and hide the fasteners and some screw through the face. They are very expensive and my experience trying to replace a damaged panel was a nightmare. Very labor intensive because of details around openings. I think the thickest ones I have seen were 10”. Primary used for walls.

They do perform as advertised and provide a sleek exterior and a finished interior with lots of insulation. Always order a couple of extra panels of the longest length you need in case of mistakes or to just have for repairs.

 

[dutchgray]

Insulated steel sheeting is very common here for industrial buildings, they do up to 250mm thick I believe, you can get 1m wide or 2 m wide sheets by whatever length you need, 6m long seems to be the most the cladders want to mess with, it gets real heavy, the 2m wide stuff is mostly for roofs and you need a crane to put it on.
We did a 10,000 sq foot building with 100mm on the roof and 80mm walls, the sheeting was 3/4 of the total cost of the supply and erect of the building from the building supplier, its like 2 or 3 hundred £ a sheet where plain painted steel would be £20
Makes a nice building though and you don't have to mess with adding any insulation or framing to hold the insulation.
You can get your standard box profile, fake roman style tile surface, fake slate surface, a standing seam system and many others, in loads of colours, with 12 point plastic capped screws to match.

 

[wantacoe]

Thanks for the replies. So this stuff is stand alone? No framing needed?

 

[PugetDude]

Thanks for the replies. So this stuff is stand alone? No framing needed?

No, it still needs to be screwed to load-bearing purlins (roofs) or girts (walls)

Insulated panels are standard in Europe, not so much here in the US where energy is cheaper.
At one time there were more insulated panel manufacturing lines in Spain alone than in the entire US. Up-front capital costs limit these to large industrial producers, usually tied to a steel manufacturer who controls the steel supply chain all the way to the installer. Cost of these lines is around $6 million.
In comparison, an entry level R-panel line costs around $200,000; about twice that for an industrial standing seam line- and as importantly galv/galvalume/painted steel coils are readily available on the open market. That's why we have hundreds of small companies rolling single-skin roof and wall panels here in the US.

 

[WNYflyer]

We specified them on a job a few years ago for a chemical company process building. We ended up using a certain type due to building fire rating requirements due to its close proximity to other processes and buildings. I think the panels were 6" thick with a 2 hour fire rating. Expensive as readhead said but we didn't have a lot of options. Ours were screwed to the building girts for both lateral and vertical support of the panel.

 

[cosmo52]

Look for SIP's (Structurally Insulated Panels). They are available with various types of sheathing and some variation on the type of foam core. I almost used a type called EZ Sips but the building inspector would not approve them for the area that I was building in. They are a little pricey but look like they would work well for my application. (Timber frame cabin)

 

[MushCreek]

Thanks for the replies. So this stuff is stand alone? No framing needed?

It depends upon what it is. SIP's are Structural Insulated Panels, and are self-framing for the most part. There are other insulated panels that aren't designed for structural use.

 

[wantacoe]

So, I went to the auction where this stuff was at today. 4.5" thick, 43" wide and 42'6" long. 12 pieces. Went for $5 per section. It was used and not in perfect shape but dang! There just wasn't enough to do my building.

 

[PugetDude]

So, I went to the auction where this stuff was at today. 4.5" thick, 43" wide and 42'6" long. 12 pieces. Went for $5 per section. It was used and not in perfect shape but dang! There just wasn't enough to do my building.

$60 for enough panels to do a 1600Ft2 building?

 

[wantacoe]

$60 for enough panels to do a 1600Ft2 building?

Yeah, no one wanted it. Part of the reason was it was end of a long auction, cold and rainy. But I also think the logistics of moving 42' pieces had something to do with it.

 

[welder57]

Check on craigslist, look under insulted panels. They are different companies selling these as overstock and blemished. They are heavy and dangerous to handle, if you don't have the correct equipment to install.