Vinyl siding blowing off, seeking advice

[augustus]

I was hoping to get some advice from those in the know on here about vinyl siding.

It's been cold and especially windy around here, and for the second time pieces of vinyl siding have come loose and have even blown off of my girlfriend's house. I have no trouble putting them back, but I'd appreciate some advice on how to keep them from continuing to come off. I'm speculating that they've shrunk due the cold and backed closer to the edge of the J channel, or all the way out and given something for the wind to pull them off, but I don't know that, and I haven't gotten on the ladder and inspected first hand yet, I just have her photos of the situation.

Thanks for any help!

 

[mike93lx]

Are they not nailed on? The top of each piece should be nailed, not too tight so they can move with temp swings, then the bottom clips into the row below.

There are tools available that greatly help in getting the pieces separated and reattached.

 

[firebirdparts]

It appears that it came unsnapped at the bottom. If that's true, then you'd need to raise it up. There is no way wind can unsnap vinyl siding. it takes all my strength to do it a little tiny section at a time. It was just never snapped in to start with.

 

[Dadillac]

That may be the first house that I have seen without any rake boards. Weird. Anyway I used to do vinyl siding years ago. On shallow pitched roofs like yours the angle cuts are quite long. So you have quite a bit of unnailed panel on each one. What we would do is use trim nails and nail one panel to the one below it. At the bottom lock there are drain holes. If you take a trim nail and nail it upwards it will go through the top lock of the panel that is below it. Rarely had a call back for loose panels.

Don

 

[Dadillac]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...aw1qvab7reaH1HTK1NBhAJRr&ust=1579728274375048

Picture of the drain holes

Don

 

[engineer2]

We are hoping our ugly siding will blow off someday so insurance will help pay for new siding. No luck yet, LOL.

 

[The Cobbler]

you can also put some stainless steel screws in the bottom edge of the siding to grab the pc above it . it will help with pcs that always come loose

 

[CraigStu]

I have had that problem a couple of times. I usually ran an SS screw and washer into the siding. I knew it wasn't ideal because that would restrain it's movement but 5 yrs at one house and 10 at another and it never caused a problem. I did not tighten the screws much. I really like the techniques Daddilac and Cobbler wrote about. Next time I will use one of them.

 

[matt_i]

Potential issue is that the various siding pieces are too short to stay engaged in the J-channel under the edge of the roof.

Potential easy fix for above is to shift the offending pieces slightly to the right and then tighten 1 and only 1 nail (would be even better to use a single 1" long GRK cabinet screw) to fix the siding there and allow it to expand in all other directions.

 

[Kaizen]

Nails pulled out due to wrong type or length is my guess. Sink some in and should be good. Bad part is it’s hard to do. If the siding is old it can break easy.


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[Farmall450]

That may be the first house that I have seen without any rake boards. Weird. Anyway I used to do vinyl siding years ago. On shallow pitched roofs like yours the angle cuts are quite long. So you have quite a bit of unnailed panel on each one. What we would do is use trim nails and nail one panel to the one below it. At the bottom lock there are drain holes. If you take a trim nail and nail it upwards it will go through the top lock of the panel that is below it. Rarely had a call back for loose panels.

Don

Agreed.

 

[Jazz1]

The piece parallel to downspout was not installed correctly. Unfasten and reattach,,,that will be fun, I see others say there's a tool for that.
The ones up higher I know I screwed stainless fender washers on ends that are out of sight,,not how the pro's do it but works for me

 

[augustus]

Thank you all for the input, I now have some idea of what i'm heading into, and the approaches I'll take. I actually didn't expect it to be difficult to put the pieces back in place, it's been decades since I've done any vinyl siding and that was install, not repair/replace. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to wait until it warms up some, I really don't want to break these pieces, and working on this stuff in the cold will **** for the hands. I might throw a ladder up in the meantime to get a closer visual.

Thanks!

 

[Augus7us]

Wow another Augustus and you're also from central Ohio. What are the odds!

I don't know if you're in the city or not, but I moved from Hilliard out to the country near Darby park and the wind out here is insane. I have vinyl siding and while it has holes and other issues I've never had siding come apart due to the wind. And I'm telling you I thought my house was going to blow away to oz out here, crazy wind with all the fields around me.

That piece by your gutter is odd, it looks like it bowed out and that caused the bottom to separate. I wonder if the nails are to tight and it can't move. Either way you can get that tool they mentioned at HD or lowes for $10 or $15.

Good luck and Ad Honorum!

 

[LS6 Tommy]

We are hoping our ugly siding will blow off someday so insurance will help pay for new siding. No luck yet, LOL.

Good luck with that. We had wind damage to our siding last spring. In a nut shell, it was all loose and would have eventually come off. Insurance offered $700.00 to make repairs. How do you "repair" all the siding on an entire house for $700.00 when the options are remove and reinstall or replace with new and the siding is no longer in production?

Tommy

 

[Bretny]

Unless it's some oddball color and type I bet there's a siding from another manufacture that will look the same.