JoCoSawdust
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faulty, here's that box in original paint and emblem. 59 was the last year for AMD boxes, 1960 ushered in the gray/red Waterloos.
The VINTAGE toolboxes of Garage Journal!
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It's all there. I was wondering about new shiny stuff. But that's probably a fantasy. I can probably tighten up the loose rivets and just use the existing.
outofbounds
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That big dent under the hasp obviously came from someone prying a lock off the box. I suppose that you could say it adds character, or in the notion it was a tool thief, exposes a gross lack of character.
RTM
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I have found lots of poor quality hardware on line. These guys look a bit better. Anyone use them before?
https://www.penn-elcom.com/default.asp?MC=01020801&LG=EN
I've got a Dayton era Carpenters box w both drawbolts banged up, thinking replace over repair. Not vintage, so not concerned.
https://www.penn-elcom.com/default.asp?MC=01020801&LG=EN
I've got a Dayton era Carpenters box w both drawbolts banged up, thinking replace over repair. Not vintage, so not concerned.
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Oldtuleguy
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Stuff looks ok. Have not tried them.
I've been looking at hardware lately for some wooden presentation boxes I have in the works. I'm very unimpressed with what I'm seeing. Kinda off topic but maybe not. Any direction would be appreciated. PM if it's sidetracking a thread.
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I suspect most hardware is from china
Outlawmws
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It is...
You can sometimes find vintage stuff or even older NOS. but its getting pricey on Eprey...
You can sometimes find vintage stuff or even older NOS. but its getting pricey on Eprey...
Smokeshow69
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faulty, here's that box in original paint and emblem. 59 was the last year for AMD boxes, 1960 ushered in the gray/red Waterloos.
I don’t know whether to consider this picture helping, trolling or just flat out bragging. You **** jocosawdust![emoji38]
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JoCoSawdust
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I'm trying to guilt BMW into sending me his 8d Crown roller for Christmas.
Smokeshow69
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You do realize he is not far from rileysan and I ? Plus I already tried with no avail. Good luck [emoji23]
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smschriefer
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Do you not have a crown roller? I have a three drawer I'd swap for a heritage logo. I can send you a pic if interested.
bmwrd0
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You mean this one?
I would be willing to entertain a straight trade... You paying the shipping, of course.
(actually, my son lives in Philly, and if I ever drive out there, I will hit you up.)
Rileysan
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Any information on this cabinet, found it semi local and may pick it up to add to my stack (although the colors worn match).
Thoughts on condition, value and era?
Complete garbage. I'll dispose of it properly. I drove 550 miles round trip so I could properly dispose of this 8d rolling cabinet. It's lonely ...
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I feel bad now. I have passed on 2 of them.
JoCoSawdust
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The only Heritage roller I have that I'd swap is a 3d that's been spray bombed red. Solid condition box but....red.
JoCoSawdust
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You mean this one?
I would be willing to entertain a straight trade... You paying the shipping, of course.
(actually, my son lives in Philly, and if I ever drive out there, I will hit you up.)
Thanks but I'm greedy and plan on holding on to my Heritage 8d in hopes of finding a 10d top chest. I want the best of both worlds!
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As have I sir, as have I [emoji15] not again [emoji41]
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outofbounds
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Well, I did strike a deal on this chest. Further to Private Lugnutz' comments, The first available catalog that the K-55-W (for WRINKLED Gray) or K-55-R (RED) appear is in the 1941 Catalog.
The predecessor to this model, the K-5 came in gray. Snap-On previously offered models in gray, and models in red, but the K-55 seems to be the first they offered a choice on, near as I can tell. The caveat to the 1941 as a jumping off date, is that collecting snap-on website doesn't have a link to a 1940 catalog.......
The other interesting thing (that I gather some solace from) is that the removable tray was a separate purchase, and not integral to the K55 itself, so.......I can profess to own a complete Snap-On K-55-W!! Whoopee!
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Well, I did strike a deal on this chest. Further to Private Lugnutz' comments, The first available catalog that the K-55-W (for WRINKLED Gray) or K-55-R (RED) appear is in the 1941 Catalog.QUOTE]
Wow, that thing is in mint condition.
JoCoSawdust
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Killer box OOB. Nice snag!
outofbounds
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Thanks, Guys! I appreciate the affirmation.
Farmer J.
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That's a nice tool box OOB, well done.
Maybe the optional tote trays were the same as the ones still available? The one listed now is a KTA3A and measures 20 1/4" long 8" wide and 3 1/4" high with the handle down. Would one of these fit in the top of your box?
Maybe the optional tote trays were the same as the ones still available? The one listed now is a KTA3A and measures 20 1/4" long 8" wide and 3 1/4" high with the handle down. Would one of these fit in the top of your box?
Outlawmws
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Nice score OOB!
jeffmoss26
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you ****!!
outofbounds
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I have high confidence that I can find the older KT-1W that was on the same catalog page, in fact I'd comfortably settle for the KT-1R (Cardinal Red)
Heading to what looks like a honey hole in the woods this weekend, and it may even turn up there!!
hemifalcon
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Oh yes sir.. your “edit” is made in confidence.. that is not krinkle paint.. it’s hard to say what it really is-or the actual color.. I’ll edit this later when I get out to the shop to check the date.
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Would someone more knowledgeable than me (not saying much) be able to provide any detail regarding one of my Kennedy toolbox? I was told it was from the 1920's, but other than that don't know much about this ...
It's part of several other Kennedy boxes I own / use on a frequent basis but its definitely my favorite.
thanks in advance,
--e
It's part of several other Kennedy boxes I own / use on a frequent basis but its definitely my favorite.
thanks in advance,
--e
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Outlawmws
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e, Teens or 20's as I recall. someone has posted both pics and catalog pages in here somewhere...
RTM
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Just posted in the last week or so.
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erimille
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Thanks Outlaw, RTM .. i've searched extensively the archives in advance of posting, but may have missed something. If you (or others) stumble across this again, i'd appreciate the link.
I previously found a set of helpful pics from a thread over on practicalmachinist that narrowed in on the decade. But more details pics and links to original catalogs would certainly be appreciated.
--e
I previously found a set of helpful pics from a thread over on practicalmachinist that narrowed in on the decade. But more details pics and links to original catalogs would certainly be appreciated.
--e
chstrumpetdude
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Would someone more knowledgeable than me (not saying much) be able to provide any detail regarding one of my Kennedy toolbox? I was told it was from the 1920's, but other than that don't know much about this ...
It's part of several other Kennedy boxes I own / use on a frequent basis but its definitely my favorite.
thanks in advance,
--e
That setup is a thing of beauty!
RTM
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Crud, wrong thread, look here, but you are already there. Still looking for the catalog link
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442983
Try here
https://archive.org/details/KennedyMfgCo1917/mode/1up
https://archive.org/details/KennedyToolKitsAndCases/mode/1up
By 1941 its rectangular handles.
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Would someone more knowledgeable than me (not saying much) be able to provide any detail regarding one of my Kennedy toolbox? I was told it was from the 1920's, but other than that don't know much about this ...
It's part of several other Kennedy boxes I own / use on a frequent basis but its definitely my favorite.
thanks in advance,
--e
That’s just class
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sweeeet
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This is a 1958 CM Crown set made by the Advertising Metal Display Company of Chicago. I picked it up at an estate sale this week.
The outside shows some staining but not too bad, but the inside is fabulous! The PO lined all the drawers with orange foam padding and except where a couple of spills soaked through, the finish is perfect--even the top of the roller is unmarked due to the piece of carpet between it and the top box. You can actually see reflections in the finish.
Under the tote I found the tags for each piece--No. 4070 2-Drawer Chest and No. 4358 3-Drawer Roller
Under one of the foam pads I found a portion of a seasonal Sears catalog with the set advertised as a combo for $53.77
Under another pad I found the delivery slip showing the catalog number, the weight and the price. It was delivered to the owner on 13 Feb 1958 at the same address where I picked it up.
There's no doubt there is some rust on the exterior but a lot of is seems to be old spill residue. I took a quick lick at some of it with WD-40 but did not see any noticeable change. Any suggestions?
EDIT: I meant to note that GJ members Leevon and d42jeep have the Montgomery Ward POWR KRAFT versions of the bottom and top. See posts 11572 and 11578 in this thread.
The outside shows some staining but not too bad, but the inside is fabulous! The PO lined all the drawers with orange foam padding and except where a couple of spills soaked through, the finish is perfect--even the top of the roller is unmarked due to the piece of carpet between it and the top box. You can actually see reflections in the finish.
Under the tote I found the tags for each piece--No. 4070 2-Drawer Chest and No. 4358 3-Drawer Roller
Under one of the foam pads I found a portion of a seasonal Sears catalog with the set advertised as a combo for $53.77
Under another pad I found the delivery slip showing the catalog number, the weight and the price. It was delivered to the owner on 13 Feb 1958 at the same address where I picked it up.
There's no doubt there is some rust on the exterior but a lot of is seems to be old spill residue. I took a quick lick at some of it with WD-40 but did not see any noticeable change. Any suggestions?
EDIT: I meant to note that GJ members Leevon and d42jeep have the Montgomery Ward POWR KRAFT versions of the bottom and top. See posts 11572 and 11578 in this thread.
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Nice grab. Those original tags are a nice bonus.
faultymechanics
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Is there anywhere I can find a friction slider for a heritage logo era drawer?
JoCoSawdust
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I've got a 2d Heritage I'm parting out faulty. Pretty sure they'd all be the same length but send me dimensions of exactly what you need. EDIT: My parts box is a top chest. Slides for bottom chests are more than likely longer but still let me know the length you need.
JoCoSawdust
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This is a 1958 CM Crown set made by the Advertising Metal Display Company of Chicago. I picked it up at an estate sale this week.
The outside shows some staining but not too bad, but the inside is fabulous! The PO lined all the drawers with orange foam padding and except where a couple of spills soaked through, the finish is perfect--even the top of the roller is unmarked due to the piece of carpet between it and the top box. You can actually see reflections in the finish.
Under the tote I found the tags for each piece--No. 4070 2-Drawer Chest and No. 4358 3-Drawer Roller
Under one of the foam pads I found a portion of a seasonal Sears catalog with the set advertised as a combo for $53.77
Under another pad I found the delivery slip showing the catalog number, the weight and the price. It was delivered to the owner on 13 Feb 1958 at the same address where I picked it up.
There's no doubt there is some rust on the exterior but a lot of is seems to be old spill residue. I took a quick lick at some of it with WD-40 but did not see any noticeable change. Any suggestions?
EDIT: I meant to note that GJ members Leevon and d42jeep have the Montgomery Ward POWR KRAFT versions of the bottom and top. See posts 11572 and 11578 in this thread.
Incredible find. My jealousy meter is pegged out! The tags just add to the **** factor for you. I'd keep with the WD40 with some fine steel wool. The paint on those things is really tough. I've scrubbed the **** out of mine with great results. That set also affirms my belief that the Crown logo started sometime during the 58 production year. Great score!