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Dymo, Brother or other printer for heat shrinking cable "socks"

thomfr

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As I have to do 2,5 car loom (all over 40 years old so in need of some refreshing and alteration) and would love to bring some more coding/info on the cables beside the color coding they have.

I'm considering buying a printing unit (Dymo Rhino or Brother Labelmaker PT.. or other suggestions) to do so.
Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with these concerning how easy they are usable with the thinner cables in a car and durability of the printing?
Thanks!
Thom
 

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I use a rhino and it has worked very well for ~8 years. The print is very readable on everything I used it for. I dont recall how small of a gauge wire I went to though.
 

rlitman

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The alternative is to buy a quantity of clear shrink to put over labels.
I cannot speak as to how well printed shrink holds up, but the clear will withstand whatever you throw at it.
 

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I like well-labelled cables, and I can see some attraction in labelling terminations in a vehicle. To be honest, it seems like overkill, but otherwise harmless.

I'm glad to hear you're going to maintain the original color system, thomfr. There's a reason all the manufacturers used and continue to use a rainbow of colors.

Have you considered fitting a complete replacement wiring loom? They're available from specialists for almost any collectible car and can be made nearly indistinguishable from original. It's a real value to maintain originality so that all the old service and workshop manuals still apply, and very nice not to have corrosion, cracks, and splices to work around. (That's my recommendation as a driver of a near-60 year old Triumph with a now-perfect Lucas electrical system.)
 

DevinJ

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I used a Dymo Rhino 5200 to make heat shrink labels for a harness on a motorcycle I built.

It works pretty good, for heat shrink labels and normal labels as well. The only complaint I have is that the keyboard is not a QWERTY layout, which is kind of annoying. Not the end of the world though.
 
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Djosbun

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I have a Brady BMP21. I have been known to be fanatic with labels.

Love the Brady's features. Please check them out.
Thank you for this recommendation. I, too, have been thinking about getting a labler and the Brady looks perfect.

-- Dave
 

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Thank you for this recommendation. I, too, have been thinking about getting a labler and the Brady looks perfect.

-- Dave

The nylon cloth label stock is bitchin. Seriously sticky and extremely durable. Their shrink tubes are great too. I'm not as familiar with their size options tho... please do the research.

If you get the Brady... get the rechargeable battery. There is an odd thing with the rechargeable battery. You need to pull the battery to charge it. It's designed to hot swap with two batteries... I have one... so it feels odd.

Seriously tho... the Brady is fantastic.

I use 3/8" for files
1/2" for organization boxes
3/4 for bins, drawers etc.
 

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This thread got me looking at these industrial labelers that offer the heat shrink tubes. I’ve used typical home use labelers for cabling in the house, shop and garage and it’s futile. The adhesive wasn’t designed for this, the ink fades and I’m redoing them every 5 years or whenever I touch that wiring again. I’m tired of it.

In addition to the Rhino and Brady, it seems like Epson also offers a few models (perhaps rebranded K Sun products). They don’t have the variety of label options that Brady offers, but they have the heat shrink tubes, magnetic labels, standard labels with hopefully better adhesive than what I have been using and their labelers have a qwerty keyboard, which is the one thing that really bugs me with the Brady products. You can get them with Brady...in a MUCH more expensive and heavier unit. I’m not interested in those models. I don’t know what genius decided a non QWERTY keyboard was a good idea. Back to the Epson, they are the only one that gives you an adjustable margin as little as 1mm from the print to conserve the tape. Nobody else gives you that and you’ll find some reviews complaining about excessive wasted tape (which is expensive across the board, but particularly with the Brady).

In terms of quality, the Rhino seems to have a few bad reviews on Amazon, including one stating Dymo won’t economically service the industrial labelers out of warranty which is the shortest out of the three I think. Brady comes with a longer 2 year warranty and seems to be pretty reliable...intended for industrial use. The Epson’s are devoid of feedback that I can find but do come with a lifetime warranty if you’re buying from an authorized seller. These products are $200-300 for their entry level products, so not disposable like a $50 home labeler, so the build quality matters to me.

So, does anyone have any feedback on the Epson’s? I’m thinking of getting that or the Brady (if I decide the other label options are really worth it).
 

MattT

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If your budget can stand it get one you can print to from a PC. Doesn't matter how good, or bad, the printers keyboard is. They all **** compared to a laptop with a spreadsheet.

And of the 3 brands Epson is the best IME.
 

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The nylon cloth label stock is bitchin. Seriously sticky and extremely durable. Their shrink tubes are great too. I'm not as familiar with their size options tho... please do the research.

If you get the Brady... get the rechargeable battery. There is an odd thing with the rechargeable battery. You need to pull the battery to charge it. It's designed to hot swap with two batteries... I have one... so it feels odd.

Seriously tho... the Brady is fantastic.

I use 3/8" for files
1/2" for organization boxes
3/4 for bins, drawers etc.
Much appreciated! I use 3M heat shrink tubing (they have so many special shrink applications that I typically buy way too much) but will buy some of the Brady heat shrink and see how it compares.

Will be buying the Brady printer today.

-- Dave
 

RKA

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FWIW, Zoro is a good option for the Brady or Epson labelers. Zoro’s coupon codes can be used on them, which is nice since the more expensive units aren’t discounted anywhere (and Zoro’s prices aren’t marked up more than $10 compared to others. Label stock is a bit thin, but they had 1/4 and 1/2” heat shrink tubes I wanted (Epson).
 
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