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Electric motor oil is typically 20 wt for 1/4 HP and up. (3in1 Light Blue label)
"Sewing Machine" oil is 17 wt for fractional HP motors. (3in1 Black label)

30Wt goes in the crankcase of the compressor.

Bearing oil does have detergents, compressor crankcase oil does not.
 
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Electric motor oil is typically 20 wt for 1/4 HP and up. (3in1 Light Blue label)
"Sewing Machine" oil is 17 wt for fractional HP motors. (3in1 Black label)

30Wt goes in the crankcase of the compressor.

Bearing oil does have detergents, compressor crankcase oil does not.
Nice to see such a good reply! I find that most of the time, people have no clue about lubrication and the importance of using the proper type and grade of lubricant, which depends on load, speed, type of friction to protect from and temperature.

Which is exactly the reason why larger, heavier motors that don't run as fast require oil with greater viscosity which would bog down fast, light motors such as those in portable drills.

Same thing goes for gears. Ever wondered why old machines with huge gears use a tar-like lubricant and why angle grinders need fluid grease? That's the reason right here.

For anyone else interested in lubrication, I highly recommend machinerylubrication.com. They have excellent articles that it explains it very well.

On another front, I just missed a deal on a working Quincy 325 and 5HP 550V motor and no tank for $150. By the time I had looked into phase converters for the motor, it was gone.
 

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This is in the basement of the old bar in my town, must be for the beer taps. Thought I would share
 

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This is in the basement of the old bar in my town, must be for the beer taps. Thought I would share




Very nice!

This one was also in the basement of a bar!

Wife’s family’s bar in Wyoming. e621479315b43d2672a13b43b7eeee36.jpgIMG_6170.jpgIMG_6171.jpg
 

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1920s michelin tire pump

got it today
 

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That thing has such a COOL factor...:thumbup:

I think you need to also post it in the thread of awesome!

So is the Michelin Man the air tank? Or is there an air tank?
 

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That thing has such a COOL factor...:thumbup:

I think you need to also post it in the thread of awesome!

So is the Michelin Man the air tank? Or is there an air tank?

its just a direct pump with no tank...the piston /cylinder is inside the man , as per the pics
 

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Very nice Michelin (M. Bibendum?) air compressor.
I guess that gauge reads in bar (atmospheres) since it's French. It would be nice to be able to restore the gauge, and of course the whole thing.
 
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I decided I am going to start an antique tool shop (40's and older) and came across this little guy.

1936 & 1939 U15A Champion Air compressor

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After buying the one, the seller said you might as well have the other which caught me off guard. If anyone knows anything about these compressors then please tell me because I can't find anything
 
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Thanks for having me this is my first post. If this has been discussed in another thread please shoot me the link, but I haven't been able to find any information about it. I recently bought a house that belonged to an elderly couple and inherited 2 air compressors that were left in the garage. The one in question appears to be around a 30 gallon. The plate on the tanks states it's an "ECO air compressor" model 1346 H. I plugged it in and it still fires right up, but obviously it needs some TLC. Does anyone have any experience, or information with these, and would it be worth cleaning it up and refinishing it? Thanks in advance, Mike.
 

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Your pump is a Brunner, probably an A650. Very good pumps. I'm not sure if you can still find parts for this pump, but Atmosphair in Toronto says they sell Brunner compressor parts.
 

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This was in my Grandfathers(mom) quonset hut barn, not sure how long he had it or where he got it. Mom inherited it when he passed in 2000-ish and it sat inside and outside for a long while. i fired it up 6 years ago one time(first time in our ownership) and then fired it up again. It hat lots of water i it and rust, and I know everyone is gonna tell me that I'm stupid and to run to the hills or buy a new tank. I'm gonna clean it out and look with a borescope before that. Like a "dummy" I've already let it pressure up to its regulated 140psi and it appears to be leaking from the switches diaphram, got one on order.


Devilbliss 330 pump


Tank from 1948?

Yeeeeaaaahhhhh I know I'm probably using something I shoudln't be, might just have it turned down to lower PSI for houshold stuff until I save up for new tank. But I was on a forum for old trucks with split ring wheels for a while and every time you'd show a pic of your split rims people would cuss you out for being so stupid.......then some old guys would show up and say, "I've been running split rims and my daddy ran them and my grandaddy ran them for 80 years, nobody got hurt and they're still fine".

This gave me a thicker skin and showed me not to run to the hills every time someone on the internet tells me to be afraid and call OSHA
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Hope you guys like it.
 

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Here is a one off compressor. Cornelius Air compressor.
1500 PSI 27V from what I can find out it was designed and used in WWII bombers to fill holding tanks which actuated air cylinders for landing gear.
Hydraulic fluid was heavy and danger of fire in event of a hole from enemy fire or a crash. I'll post a few more pictures later. The one of the tag was out of focus.
Movin/on
 

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Here is a one off compressor. Cornelius Air compressor.
1500 PSI 27V from what I can find out it was designed and used in WWII bombers to fill holding tanks which actuated air cylinders for landing gear.
Hydraulic fluid was heavy and danger of fire in event of a hole from enemy fire or a crash. I'll post a few more pictures later. The one of the tag was out of focus.
Movin/on
Mustie1 on youtube got one of those running not to long ago.


 
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I’m scraping the dust from years of being in a limestone cutting shop. I have the 80 gallon tank, but the electric motor is gone. The pump has clean oil still in it and the original 4-stage air filter is intact. The pump spins by hand and makes pressure so maybe it looks much worse than it is. Parts are still available so I will overhaul it if I have to. Cleaning it now.


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You may find this compressor is pressure lubricated. The only Westinghouse compressor I overhauled had a plunger pump running off the middle of the crankshaft.
 

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You may find this compressor is pressure lubricated. The only Westinghouse compressor I overhauled had a plunger pump running off the middle of the crankshaft.



There have been many of these pumps on this site and others, and yes, it is said to have a piston pump for the rods, with the mains being fed by troughs filled by splash. Some refer to this pump as a WabCo type Y. Thank You for the reply, it seems like nobody has any interest in it. Maybe all the old farts like me have too many other issues to deal with. The pump is 74 years old and I have looked for one for awhile because they are so sturdy and parts are still available and I really like the way it looks. It’s PRETTY! We shall see how it turns out.


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There have been many of these pumps on this site and others, and yes, it is said to have a piston pump for the rods, with the mains being fed by troughs filled by splash. Some refer to this pump as a WabCo type Y. Thank You for the reply, it seems like nobody has any interest in it. Maybe all the old farts like me have too many other issues to deal with. The pump is 74 years old and I have looked for one for awhile because they are so sturdy and parts are still available and I really like the way it looks. It’s PRETTY! We shall see how it turns out.


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And we WANT to see how it turns out! You gonna' just clean it up and leave it somewhat "natural", or do the full-blown restore to original paint and all...? Either way: :thumbup:
 

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Jay, I have not been on here in months. Thanks for your input. The flywheel on mine is cracked and will need welding. Also one of the connecting rods on the crank end had worn clear through the babbitt bearing. I plan to pour new bearing and machine it to get it back in service. I will hydro test the tank also.
 

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Do you mean poured with the crank in place? Maybe that is the process I should be considering. I had the turn the journal on the crank down about .090 “ to get it cleaned up. I would appreciate your input.
 

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Here is a picture of the Quincy compressor from the 1920’s. It has a cast iron top the pump is mounted to and a riveted tank. Two stage. Cracked flywheel and a bad Babbitt bearing on one of the connecting rods.
 

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Do you mean poured with the crank in place? Maybe that is the process I should be considering. I had the turn the journal on the crank down about .090 “ to get it cleaned up. I would appreciate your input.



There’s a very good tutorial online at Belmont Metals . I’m sure there’s a lot to about it and I don’t know that stuff. Maybe someone else on here can tell you the tricks to help you get it right on the first try. Really glad you are attempting to repair that fine and pretty old machine... https://www.belmontmetals.com/how-to-pour-babbitt-bearings/


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I was looking for help in identifying the year of this CPMC vintage air compressor...the company wasn't sure of the date and the representative told me to not continue to use it because the tank might blow...also if anyone has an idea of what it's worth...I will be looking to sell it
 

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I was looking for help in identifying the year of this CPMC vintage air compressor...the company wasn't sure of the date and the representative told me to not continue to use it because the tank might blow...also if anyone has an idea of what it's worth...I will be looking to sell it

Based on some Champion catalogs I have seen, I would say it's from the 1920s. As for value, I would say $200 or less. Its value is strictly historical and the market is pretty thin for an artifact like that. If you can get in touch with the right person at Gardner Denver, they might want it. I know when I was in industrial marketing we sought out some of our older products to use for display and advertising.
 
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I was looking for help in identifying the year of this CPMC vintage air compressor...the company wasn't sure of the date and the representative told me to not continue to use it because the tank might blow...also if anyone has an idea of what it's worth...I will be looking to sell it

where the hell is it? location makes a diff!
 
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