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Getting garage heater quotes...ugh

rusty1606

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Im in the process of getting quotes to install a gas line to the garage plus a heater. Its about 70 feet of gas line that i need plus a heater. 20 of which will be underground. Ill hand dig the trench myself. Im getting quotes for 3700 without a heater, up to 4800 with a heater. I was expecting about 3500 for it installed. I am in Saskatchewan canada, the trades are slow here. Am i out to dinner on this one fellas?

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rusty1606

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That's insane!

What heater is included in that price?
3700 if i provide the heater company 1

4500 for a 45000 btu cayenne heater company 1

4800 for a 45000 hot dawg heater. Company2

Ive had another company stop by friday, but no quote yet. Ive got 2 more companies coming on tuesday. I just cant believe the cost!


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Racy2

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A heater and SS pipe will run you over $1000. I am in the same situation in Ontario. I have already purchased a Mr. Heater 80,000 BTU for just under $500.00 on sale at Princess Auto.
 

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My vertical vent kit was $65 shipped

Installing these heaters is actually pretty easy

Do it all yourself
 
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rusty1606

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Just got another quote this morning. 3900 all installed with a 45k hot dawg. Would like it exhausted horizontally. One less roof hole is a bonus for me.

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I heat wood although if I decide to go with NG I would do the install and have "red seal" plumber I know do the connection for insurance purposes....These are simple installs considering you are willing to dig the trench. You also want insurance companies blessing for the location of furnace.
 

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The stainless exhaust vent material for horizontal costs about the same as the heater. If you can do the work yourself it's obviously going to save. Hanging the heater and hooking it up is fairly straightforward and nothing real tricky.
I did mine, only difference is propane so I had to do the conversion of the heater. Easy enough, just buy the propane kit.

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Innovate1

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that sounds crazy. I am doing my own line install of 250' run and paid about $150 for 300' of 1" poly line and maybe $250 for pipe fittings for both ends and a couple hours of digging time to a trackhoe guy - say $400. I may be off a little on those but comes to about $800. It's installing a T at an existing meter for the house and run to detached garage. Will be well under $1000 without the heater. Are there rules there that prevent you from doing it yourself? What material are you required to use?
 

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Just got another quote this morning. 3900 all installed with a 45k hot dawg. Would like it exhausted horizontally. One less roof hole is a bonus for me.

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That sounds better ... w/o seeing the install. Around me getting a plumber to do gas lines is $$ .. time for inspection etc.
 

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That's why I went with a mini-split, it cost me $1,500 installed and also has AC. And I pre-plumbed for a gas-heater (meaning the pipe and electric was already ran to the location). Didn't make sense to spend the extra on a gas heater.
 

u2slow

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IMHO, gas and HVAC are probably the two most expensive trades.

Shop around... but don't expect the low bid to be 'cheap' or prompt.
 

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I am planning to winterize my 2 car attached. I have oil, mini-splits, wood fireplace and radiant cove heat in different parts of my house. No natural gas in my area. I worry about spark, flame or other with all the fuel and chemicals in the garage and plan to use the radiant cove heat for the job. I have in my basement and they do a great job taking the edge off in the winter. I installed myself and they are as easy as wiring a light fixture. Basically a 20 amp circuit to a line level thermostat (I'm swapping to a zwave smart thermostat) and on to a flat aluminium fixture that mounts about 4" from the top of the ceiling. They are very inexpensive compared to other systems. Wondering if this will work for some applications.
 

SeanH

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Install it yourself. I had to run my 3/4" gas line probably 110' through the ceiling of my basement, through the garage and out the back wall, underground using polyethylene tubing and risers and back into the detached. I probably spent $400-500 on supplies (risers for underground were about $50/ea). I actually got everything ran and pressure tested (with a gauge for about 4 days, didn't budge). Then I needed to tape into the 1" feed about 3 feet from my meter in the ceiling of the basement, I figured I would pay a plumber to do that. They wanted $1,000 just to connect that point. I said screw it. Bought the black iron slip joint (https://www.menards.com/main/plumbi...pipe-union/310u-38/p-1444437561777-c-8564.htm), turned off our gas, drilled a small hole in the line, blew air into the line to clear any and all residual gas, cut my line with a sawsall and installed my slip joint along with a couple T's (for potential future addition), all for about $40. Took me about 2 hours, only cause I was taking my time.

The scariest part is making sure the gas lines are sealed. Use good pipe sealant and tighten the joints really tight (not like superman, but make sure they are tight). Then, invest in a pipe pressure gauge (https://www.menards.com/main/plumbi...mbly-gauge/0069780/p-1444446180261-c-8523.htm). Screw that on, apply pressure (probably max of 10) and leave it on there. If it moves less than 1psi over 4-5 days, you're golden. Natural gas only runs a max of 1 psi once it goes through the meter into the house, so it would probably hold 3-4psi indefinitely.

Once you do that, you can be pretty confident it should be good. I would recommend doing this check on the buried line BEFORE you bury it. Thankfully I didn't have an issue, but it is worth checking, so you don't have to dig up your line and find the issue.

I don't know about Canada, but in the US you use polyethylene underground for gas. Here is an example: https://www.homedepot.com/p/HOME-FL...3dIFPb9MNj1bo_XxpzgaAm_8EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

I rented a tool to melt the lines together from a local supply house (kinda like this)
, but it looks like they sell connectors for the lines now too.
 
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rusty1606

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I got enough quotes to satisfy myself. Going to go with a smaller plumbing company. Their installs look great. The guy seemed genuine and legit. Unlike some of the people i had come by. Gas line heater permits n all, ill be paying just under 4000 bucks. But unfortunately my job is uncertain now with the virus n whatnot. The project is on hold until things settle. Ive let the plumber know, i will be going with him in the future.

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That's why I went with a mini-split, it cost me $1,500 installed and also has AC. And I pre-plumbed for a gas-heater (meaning the pipe and electric was already ran to the location). Didn't make sense to spend the extra on a gas heater.

hows yours performing in the winter? Ohio gets cold right? :headscrat
 
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