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While I do love my job, the kinds of aircraft you get to work on and the variety of jobs done and skill sets needed to do them is amazing. And the best part is.............wait for it............you get paid to do it! :thumbup: Maybe I'll reconsider the adoption after all. ;)

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No, no, no.... although it may be rumored, we ARE NOT going to build a hanger on the property! (although we do have clear, flat farmland to the direct south) We still have a house to build (then we'll see how much room is left out there). Just let him dream, guys!
ZRX61's twitter reference is full of all kinds of what we call in our household "Pearls of Sh..". And they are oh-so-true.

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I'm a 60 year old baby boomer also named Tom. We geezers do bring a wealth of experience to the world. Now, the funny thing is that I don't feel the least bit like a geezer. Yeah, I have a few aches and pains but I can do all the outside work I want to do, dig holes, shovel mulch, stone and dirt and will challenge any other 60 or 55 year old to a bike (the kind you pedal) race over a 20 mile course.

Even with the above, I'd rather shave 20 years off my age. All you youngun's enjoy your youth, but preserve your health. Don't eat crud, don't smoke or abuse alcohol and don't do drugs. I'm probably preaching to the choir, so to speak, but the other things we need to work on are exercise, happiness and enough sleep. Speaking of sleep, I still don't see how BB767 Tom ever gets enough sleep with all the stuff he's done!!!

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Tom sleeps lots more than I do, for sure! Between postings here, working out at the shop on his car or on the new building or on the grounds, doing the taxes (most recently), working (it does get in the way of life at times) and spending that all-important time with me, there aren't a lot more hours in the 24/7 to fill. But we do tend to fill them to the max! I try to take up some of the slack by doing most of the work at our apartments (renting, bill paying, doing minor repairs, scheduling/meeting maintenance people) along with all my stuff (there seems to be more now that I'm retired - why is that?). We tend to get lots done within the time allotted (is that an understatement or what?) Oh, and we do make time to read and discuss the newspaper daily and see friends/family (even when we're complaining that we don't do that enough) and we watch lots of movies at home (we have a huge collection). (And, some of this stuff we do together - what a concept!) I don't keep "honey-do" lists. He may keep one for me, but it may have been lost somewhere in the flurry of activity.

Check out this thread from Free Parking the Bull started on the Forum if you're interested in sleep (or no sleep) and how others are getting through. I had fun reading it. There is so much good stuff on all the Garage Journal forums. I've read one fewer book this past week because I've spent more time reading here!

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58276

Life's an adventure. Enjoy it!

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No, no, no.... although it may be rumored, we ARE NOT going to build a hanger on the property! ........... Just let him dream, guys!

Chris


I didn't even get a chance to show her how cool that would be before I got shut down on that one.:( Just think how nice it would be to have our friends fly in for a visit and then have a nice place for them to park their " vintage rides"!!:dunno: Oh ya, in fact when you think about it, I can see so many advantages that we'd really be foolish to NOT build one! Now let's see, if we moved the house over just a few feet and then..........

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One can turn into a senior by the time he reads this entire thread!!!

Pity the poor fellow who just sees this thread for the first time.......43 pages worth. That could be so daunting that they don't even bother to start.:willy_nil

Really, I didn't plan on that......it just sort of, well, grew.:dunno:

My apologies to all the new folks for that. Hey, I hope it was better than watching TV anyway!

Thomas
 

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I didn't even get a chance to show her how cool that would be before I got shut down on that one.:( Just think how nice it would be to have our friends fly in for a visit and then have a nice place for them to park their " vintage rides"!!:dunno: Oh ya, in fact when you think about it, I can see so many advantages that we'd really be foolish to NOT build one! Now let's see, if we moved the house over just a few feet and then..........

Thomas

ACTUALLY you should use the argument that it would save you SOOO much time in your commute to work..... ;)

Pity the poor fellow who just sees this thread for the first time.......43 pages worth. That could be so daunting that they don't even bother to start.:willy_nil

Really, I didn't plan on that......it just sort of, well, grew.:dunno:

My apologies to all the new folks for that. Hey, I hope it was better than watching TV anyway!

Thomas


I think that I subscribed when it was 26 (or was it 30) pages long. I got the link from the jeep forum that I am a member of. I spent a whole Sunday reading and dreaming.

...and don't apologize. I just wish that I had the time and support to rebuild something like your garage.:drool:
 

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He can come up with all the rationalizations that pop into his head. If he wants to get it done, that's usually what happens. By the time he mentions something, it's usually already a done-deal anyway. I've almost given up the obligatory questioning of his sanity. As I've said before, I'm just along for the ride. It's hard for me to say no to his projects when I have my own projects to pursue that he might not necessarily agree with. I guess we're "two peas in a pod" in that way. If anyone would have told me (or either of us for that matter) when we got married what we'd be doing 35 years later, we would have both said they were crazy. We never really planned any of this. But, in retrospect, it's been fun (or at least an adventure). Isn't hindsight 20-20? (My mom once asked me when he was going to grow up. I should ask her if she thinks he has!)

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Pity the poor fellow who just sees this thread for the first time.......43 pages worth. That could be so daunting that they don't even bother to start.:willy_nil

Really, I didn't plan on that......it just sort of, well, grew.:dunno:

My apologies to all the new folks for that. Hey, I hope it was better than watching TV anyway!

Thomas
Hell no, That's the best part. No waiting for the next installment like the rest of us...:)
 

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What a marathon read.... it's easy to waste time on the t'internet... I do not consider this last three days to have been a waste...
Thomas... You make me feel so lazy... what you've done is AMAZING!!!!!!

p.s. markviii, though I'm now living in the U.K., I was born and bred in Hong Kong so technically you could call it 11 countries now.. Keith
 

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Pshh... You guys got off easy. I had follow up this thread with the pleasure of rebuilding a couple jacks that he is gonna add to this masterpiece. Oh yeah.. Thomas wants to keep the Patina on 1 of them so i had the added pressure of "NOT" scarring them up during the rebuild. My normal plan of attack is to Spray degreaser on the jack, blast it with 2800 PSI of H2o and start with a clean slate prior to the rebuild. That of course wouldnt work out to good for the 70 year patina... LOL I finally did the best i could on the cleaning and focused on the rebuild and not damaging any parts and ill let thomas decide how much patina he actually wants. I felt like a surgeon during the rebuild and it made me extremely nervous, even though im confident in my trade it was still seemed like a challenge.Luckily one of the jacks had been previously broken down by Thomas and the second led a charmed life, so it wasnt too bad. I would also like to Thank Thomas for the opportunity to assist him with his Hydraulic jack Needs and im looking forward to making a trip up his way to witness this garage in person sometime this year.

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I do not think I do.......but, one of the sons wanted the brake so I loaded it up and hauled it to his shop. His brother, Don, had made it in the 60's. If you would like, I'll be seeing him in the next month or so, would you like a picture or two if I can manage it?

Thomas

Yes, definitely. Thanks! :beer:
 

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Yes, Keithice, I would consider that Hong Kong is a separate country - so #11 it is!. Some would not, but I won't get into those geopolitical issues (we've got acquaintances in Taiwan, as well). We all share the planet, right? I found someone from Mozambique on another thread (he needs to join in here - his garage is interesting, too).

Thanks, CrustyD3mon. The "tree-cycle" is a cool addition. The vegetation looks to be in some tropical locale.

Tom has a great addition to his group of "helpers" with Hiball. The jacks will look right at home from the outside, although being brand new on the inside.

Happy Spring!

Chris
 

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Chris, you did include Sweden in your list, didn't you? :)
I'm checking this thread atleast once a day...

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Yep, Sweden was #7 (but you're #1 from Sweden). I misstated Hong Kong - it's #12. That's not to say there aren't more represented countries - those are just the ones that are identified. I know some are "lurking" out there - or still wading through all the posts until they decide it's time to join in or not.

Warg - Your IH site is great - I just had a chance to peek at it. Thanks for sharing.

Chris
 
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It is pretty good, I like how he spends a lot of attention to the original shop with the explanation of what was done where. I appreciate how the way that this building was the livelyhood for Virgil Johnson and his kids, and is remembered as such.

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I just heard on the radio that there was a volcanic eruption in southern Iceland. Is this true? I believe Hamar said he was from Iceland. Any news of injury or damage? It looks like they had to evacuate some people.
 
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Ingenius use of bits and bobs are what makes me grin and return daily to this thread.

Thomas, as mentioned before, Thank you.

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....use of bits and bobs.........that about sizes it up Grizz. As mentioned before by me as well, it´s been tons of fun doing this thread, especially as well as it´s been received everywhere. Sorry I can´t get pictures on here while I´m ´on the road´ so to speak. By now I´m sure everyone understands..............I´ll be back!!

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ACTUALLY you should use the argument that it would save you SOOO much time in your commute to work..... ;)

You know that just might work...........at least it might be worth a try.

Oh Chris, got a minuet there´s something I want to show you............:bounce:


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(My mom once asked me when he was going to grow up. I should ask her if she thinks he has!)

Chris

I get to play with neat tools, old cars and jet airplanes, why in the world would I want to grow up now?? :dunno:

Thomas
 
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Yep, Sweden was #7 (but you're #1 from Sweden). I misstated Hong Kong - it's #12. That's not to say there aren't more represented countries - those are just the ones that are identified. I know some are "lurking" out there - or still wading through all the posts until they decide it's time to join in or not.

Warg - Your IH site is great - I just had a chance to peek at it. Thanks for sharing.

Chris

It´s a little sureal posting here from Brazil to Chris back home. Just wanted to let you know I got a PM from a fine gentleman in India to add to your count if you´re still keeping track. Home soon but not soon enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thomas
 

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Oh, so wrong, ZRX61! He wouldn't settle for 80' x 300', if he could get away with it in the first place. That would just be a "road to nowhere". When he does something, it has to be done "right". Anyway, I think in his mind his first priority is getting our retirement house built now that he's got the shop and barn built. He's on a mission. Stay tuned.

Hiball, I think Tom and our son will be coming your way by early April to pick up those floor jacks. He's already "reserved" my car for the trip.

If Tom had his way, he would own enough land that he could see all the way to the horizon in all directions, but he's not Ted Turner with his huge cattle ranches and we like it here in Central Illinois, the center of the universe, where it is fairly equa-distant to places we want to be. (Long sentences are my "signature" style!)

And why doesn't India post with pictures and/or comments on his own instead of PMing? We like to be multicultural around here! Everyone is welcome ... and we want to see his garage, too (or at least his dream for a garage). Start another thread for it to keep garagejournal.com happy!

Sorry to everyone who got winter weather on the first day of spring.

Chris
 

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NOTHING like that original garage would have lasted in my home town of Santa Rosa, the land underneath it alone would have been worth at least 500,000 and the descendants would have been fighting over who can sell it for what price.

Hell, the house that I live in now was made in 1959 and is on a 1.9 acre lot - it sold for 700 K and the house had to be completely gutted and remodeled.

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We're very protective of our "century farms" around this area, so it will be interesting to see what happens to the farm across the road. Farmland in this county goes for around $5-6000/acre. Most farm families around us tend to keep it, even in these times of high "death taxes". As for our 1930s shop property, it's not really so unique around our area in terms of "surviving" through the years in its deteriorating state. No one would have approached the family during their mother's lifetime to propose putting in a subdivision or even tidying up the property. We had an almost 50 year connection to the family and thought long and hard about even bringing up the idea to them of selling it. We did not want to develop it as a subdivision and I think the family is very happy about that. We don't really want our little town to grow as others have. It negates the entire reason why we have continued to live here.

We all miss all the round barns and working sheds that have been eliminated to accommodate urban sprawl. Those were the first "garages", storing all sorts of farm implements, workshops, and the family car until attached garages were "invented" (and they are sooo convenient). We don't have very meny "old" buildings around us. One of the oldest in Champaign was built in 1867. For those of you in the east coast, this is just a baby. One of our high school friends lives in his great grandfather's land in PA along the Susquehanna. The barn he renovated to live in was built in the late 1700s. I think he has about 100 acres.

The family, and Virgil, were esteemed for their work in the bee-keeping industry and in helping all the local farmers keep their equipment running. Many older farmers have come by during the restoration to see what's going on, look for old parts for their antique tractors, and to reminisce. It's been lots of fun just having all that interaction. The locals like their history and keeping hold of their possessions. The larger town 8-10 miles away keeps creeping closer and closer. They're ramping up to build a "by-pass" road that will go through two active farms, one a small one that specializes in organic produce and producing tofu and supplies all the farmers markets and organic sections of the local and downstate IL groceries (brought about $1mil to the local community last year, but that doesn't fit into the county road and commercial development plan). The county and cities don't feel like they can pass up the state and federal monies to build something that is really not needed. I'll stop my rant because it could go on and on.
 

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Oh, so wrong, ZRX61! He wouldn't settle for 80' x 300', if he could get away with it in the first place. That would just be a "road to nowhere". When he does something, it has to be done "right". Anyway, I think in his mind his first priority is getting our retirement house built now that he's got the shop and barn built. He's on a mission. Stay tuned.

Chris, you're really handing your husband a great opportunity on a silver plate... :thumbup:
Building your retirement home... Is that complete with an attached control tower, runway lights, and ILS? :bounce:

By the way, there were none harmed in the Icelandic volcano eruption. Some evacuated but not more than a couple of hundred, according to the news here. No buildings destroyed either.
Ah, and thanks for the kind words about my site. Right now access can be a little flakey due to my main server croaking with irregular intervals, but it will be replaced pretty soon. :)

Paul
 

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Sick Puppy ( is there a story behind that name? )
[...]
Thomas

Well, when it comes to my sense of humour, I'm a bit of a... you guessed it! A bit fozzie bear and a bit gallows, and everything in between. Still, my wife loves that I make her laugh, and the little one smiles at me whenever she gets the chance, so I guess it's not that out there...

... nice one on the LP's by the way, it's nice to have them preserved. :thumbup:

To Sick Puppy:

Congrats on the new arrival - you're right that this might make you reorganize/re-prioritize your time. My point about health stands, though - stay healthy so that you can enjoy that time with her. It's the most precious time of all and it passes in a blink.

Thanks Chris, and I definitely will, it's passing too quickly already! Takeaways are being knocked on the head more for a money point of view- health has always been stable, but I can now hear the gym calling me back... it's taken a while to get the motivation back, but it's coming...

You're right about having (or not having) time and money for the garage, but it does work out fine in the end. [...] Enjoy!

Chris
Thanks Chris, I will! We have a few things to do, like a bit of travel, but I've been promised a man-cave or two when we get a place of our own... and a segway! lol
 
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"Good grief! The landscapers have screwed up & the new lawn is 80ft wide & 3000ft long!"

Now there´s a novel way to handle it. I like the way you think! :D

I´m soon home and will try to get something posted here this Sunday. It´s been a while and we need to get this rolling again! Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 

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Wow, I am so jealous of cool old neat stuff you found. I ran across a picture of your Hudson (I believe that what it was) with the tree growing through it on another forum. I just registered and posted here so that I could receive updates to this thread.

Your shop reminds me of my fiance's grand father's garage. He mainly restored small engine's and tractors.
 
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Sorry this took so long. My darling daughter installed my new computer while I was gone flying and it's taking me a while today to come up to speed on it. Let's look at a few more shop details.

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This is the garage I built in 2003, that preceded the old shop restoration. I try to learn from my past experience. You've seen this picture before but this time look at the electrical outlets. There are 9 seen or rather, nearly seen in this picture..........right, that's what I found out too. Putting white outlets and covers on white walls makes them nearly invisible. Sometimes that's a good thing, but not always.


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Since I was putting in black and white tile floors I thought I'd use that same theme on the outlets. Past experience showed that they were not only difficult to find in white, they also showed dirt and grease easily.

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I used quad (4) outlets everywhere at the 4' level. The covers were square in profile so they echoed the black floor tiles after a sort. The same held true for the light switch covers plus they are now easy to locate and not look dirty.

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But there are places I didn't want to draw attention to the outlets. Any that were below the mid-wall area is one such spot.

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The covers really don't stand out if they are white on white. ( Notice I got that cover installed straight and not crooked like the speaker switch cover a few feet away. Remember the one from page 32, post # 638, 10th picture down......... You might think that crooked cover is STILL annoying to me.........really it isn't.........I've grown since then..........learned to put things behind me........don't look back.........put the past behind and just look forward, yesseriee Bob, no worries at all about that dumb A$$ COVER THAT FOUGHT ME FOR HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :FIREdevil
No, I'm a much better person now since that quaint little challenging experience.


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I also have several outlets on the ceilings.

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Not only are the ceiling outlets white but the sound system speakers and incandescent light fixtures are also.

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On the welding wall I used polished, brushed stainless steel covers to match the walls.

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As long as we're at the welding bench, this is the oak rub rail I installed to keep the bench which is on casters, from denting up the stainless steel on the wall. Brass screws in this case to better match the stained oak finish, rather than the usual stainless screws.

I'm bbbaack..........:D

Thomas
 

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Sir Thomas;

I tip my hat to you & your family for the extraordinary efforts expended on this venture.

Mr. Johnson left you his Seal of Approval right where he knew you would find it, and immediately grasp it's significance.

"Beau Travail" from Phil in Montreal.
 
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