The VISES of Garage Journal
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tambamkam
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Spent some time this weekend with Dads Wilton Shop King.
It's been on his bench my entire life, and now it will be on mine.
Nothing fancy or rare, but a nice piece to have around!
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It's been on his bench my entire life, and now it will be on mine.
Nothing fancy or rare, but a nice piece to have around!
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https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=7279&pictureid=100833
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=7279&pictureid=100834
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=7279&pictureid=101903
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Shiftless
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Tbk:
Thanks for posting that vise pic. A perfect tribute to your dad. Do you have others?
Thanks for posting that vise pic. A perfect tribute to your dad. Do you have others?
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I think the dynamic jaw may be cracked. It looks like the jaw is screwed in all the way but the jaws have a gap.
I picked up this same model a few months ago and did not screw it in all the way when checking it out. Got home and was cleaning it up and sure enough the bottom of the dynamic jaw was cracked where the bar is inserted into it.
Kevin
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Mark in Indiana
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tambamkam:
Thanks for sharing your story. Vises are special family heirlooms.
BTW: Wilton Shop Kings are very collectible because of the art deco style.
The first 2 pictures are of my Dad's vise, after & before restoration.
The 3rd picture is my Shop King, to be restored one day.
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Productbob
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Smitty great photo of those vises lined up on the shelves! 
Dan have had so many critters crawl out of vises i've bought that they all now go in the bed of the truck regardless of the weather when I pick them up.
joe well done on your Emmert!
Dan have had so many critters crawl out of vises i've bought that they all now go in the bed of the truck regardless of the weather when I pick them up.
joe well done on your Emmert!
Shiftless
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While we are on the topic of Shop Kings, here are a couple of shots of mine. It’s still in its “as found” condition. It’s fortunate that the pipe jaws and the parting tool are still there. So often, they get lost.
I bought it at an estate sale in a suburb of Detroit while on a vise buying trip a couple of years ago. Much thanks go to friend and fellow GJ member CRSINMICH for acting as tour guide and helping with local customs such as lining up 4 hours before sales start, getting number slips, and trading favors for help from the local “regulars”.
I only paid $20 but I had to drive over 2000 miles each way.
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I bought it at an estate sale in a suburb of Detroit while on a vise buying trip a couple of years ago. Much thanks go to friend and fellow GJ member CRSINMICH for acting as tour guide and helping with local customs such as lining up 4 hours before sales start, getting number slips, and trading favors for help from the local “regulars”.
I only paid $20 but I had to drive over 2000 miles each way.
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DFB
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While we are on the topic of Shop Kings, here are a couple of shots of mine. It’s still in its “as found” condition. It’s fortunate that the pipe jaws and the parting tool are still there. So often, they get lost.
I bought it at an estate sale in a suburb of Detroit while on a vise buying trip a couple of years ago. Much thanks go to friend and fellow GJ member CRSINMICH for acting as tour guide and helping with local customs such as lining up 4 hours before sales start, getting number slips, and trading favors for help from the local “regulars”.
I only paid $20 but I had to drive over 2000 miles each way.
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Whats that pin for?
Outlawmws
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I had a really clean 2 1/2” Stanley hit the door today. All of the edges are super crisp and the stamp is pretty clear for a 100 year old vise.
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Maui
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I restored a Wilton Shop King with 5” wide jaws that had been used in a commercial auto shop for 50 years. It cleaned up well. I even hand lapped the jaws so that they reflect like a mirror. You’ll love yours in the restored condition.
Maui
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Dan8906
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Picked up a Reed 203 and few smaller vises to practice cleaning up.
Outlawmws
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I also repaired this one and added it to my group. My plain is to grind the square flats perfectly parallel to the sides of the vise and also restore the original finish with a new paint and gold scrolling but for now it will work. 
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Shiftless
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Yep...for cutting BAR stock. Thanks outlaw. You beat me to it.
I suppose the blacksmiths would refer to the hole that tool fits into as the Pritchel hole. The Hardy holes on an anvil are square.
Question...if those chisel shaped tools seen on some vises fit into round holes rather than square, can we properly call them hardy tools? That’s what I have been calling them but I’m always ready for further education.
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DFB
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Thks
h.240
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My first vise, a Record 75:
A Woden #2 that I got for free, I just made the soft pine jaws last night:
A Record 414 I bought from a machine shop, a little rough but still works well:
And a Record clamp-on woodworking vice:
A Woden #2 that I got for free, I just made the soft pine jaws last night:
A Record 414 I bought from a machine shop, a little rough but still works well:
And a Record clamp-on woodworking vice:
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davethorik
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Two vises I got the honor of picking up today. It was an 11 hour round trip, but it was 100% worth it. Two wilton #6's
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Well asking $1k each should definitely cover travel expenses.
How bad did you lowball the seller? I cant give you 500 for both, but i can do 300 and be there today
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Dan8906
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Any tips on a good metal filler product?
Mark in Indiana
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Dan:
I normally use JB Weld for cosmetic repair.
Liquid Steel for more structural repairs like part of a jaw face support. I‘ve even used it for a base foot with an internal structure. Also repairs on a motor end cap bearing seat and thermoform mold repairs.
Shiftless
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Me too with the JB Weld for filling minor saw marks on the tops of jaw towers.
Here’s a trick I learned from somebody on GJ years ago. You can avoid the overly smooth look of epoxy by pressing in some sandpaper of the appropriate grade (you’ll have to experiment with this yourself...different grits and application after different curing times will give different results.
That gives you texture mimicking cast iron.
When you tool the epoxy, you can lay a piece of Saran Wrap on to minimize tool marks.
Here are 2 shots of my last project taken mid way. I experimented with a skim coat of JB Weld with no texturing.
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Here’s a trick I learned from somebody on GJ years ago. You can avoid the overly smooth look of epoxy by pressing in some sandpaper of the appropriate grade (you’ll have to experiment with this yourself...different grits and application after different curing times will give different results.
That gives you texture mimicking cast iron.
When you tool the epoxy, you can lay a piece of Saran Wrap on to minimize tool marks.
Here are 2 shots of my last project taken mid way. I experimented with a skim coat of JB Weld with no texturing.
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Dan8906
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Thanks guys !
Where did you get the "liquid steel"? When l typed it into amazon, it mainly shows J-B weld products.
Thanks
DFB
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"Liquid Steel" is Devcon product
Search under that name
https://www.grainger.com/product/DEVCON-1-lb-Plastic-Steel-Liquid-5A454
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00065TMUS/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Not sure off hand how the specs...heat/psi compare to JB
I do know with JB Weld the quick set is not quite as strong as the regular.
Outlawmws
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Technically a round hole on an anvil is a Pritchel hole as you said, and used for punching. I wouldn't want to witness a hot steel punching on a vise hole!
On an anvil the square is a Hardie, and intended for tools; but the vise mfgs all (AFAIK) called their round hole a hardie hole, as it was intended to hold a tool not be used for punching, so it makes sense...
Outlawmws
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h.240, none of your pics are showing - links to Google don't generally work.
Outlawmws
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JB is also easily machined and filed.
DFB
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Shiftless
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None of us were born knowing what we know. We’ve all learned from others. That’s how it works.
h.240
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Thanks for the heads-up. I updated the linkes using flickr; hopefully they are working now.
Outlawmws
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Outlawmws
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None of us were born knowing what we know. We’ve all learned from others. That’s how it works.
Dan8906
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Where’s my Reed guys? I’m not crazy that this comes out like a regular bolt? Lol thing is in there good.
Dan8906
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I have a 1/2” one but that wasn’t working. I made something that for tighter out of some bar stock with a crescent wrench also not budging 
Shiftless
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You’ve got to clamp the vise body down to something immovable. Get the biggest crescent wrench you can find (I’d be happy to loan you my 24 incher) pull some tension on it and have somebody whack the end with a BFH for the “ impact”. That just might work. (I assume you’ve already soaked it with penetrating oil)
I have had success with a much larger drag link socket and an electric impact wrench. Using that tool it’s not so important to immobilize the vise body.
I have had success with a much larger drag link socket and an electric impact wrench. Using that tool it’s not so important to immobilize the vise body.