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Blair Spot Welder Cutter

bfr57

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So, bought a Blair spot weld cutter for some body work. First spot weld OK, second one broke the teeth on the bit. Turned the bit over to use other side and that lasted only one spot weld. Went back to regular drill bits and finished up the job. What the heck did I do wrong with the Blair bit as I was really disappointed in performance?
 
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evintho

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I just replaced the floors on my '54 Ford and had to drill out a zillion spot welds. Went to HF and bought their cheap $5 spot weld cutter. It's dual sided. Worked fine until about the 15th spot weld then I noticed a tooth broke. Flipped it over and drilled out another 30 spot welds......then a tooth broke. Back to HF and bought two more. Finished the job and now I have a spare cutter and a half. Total spent...$15.
Suggestion: if you go this route, they're so cheap....buy a couple at a time.
 

kenc184

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You have to run them fairly slowly. MY Blair kit came with three cutting heads, still on the first one.
 

metaleltr

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Run slow on a cordless drill. Use an 1/8” drill bit to dimple the center of the spot weld to prevent the cutter from walking.
 

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Run slow on a cordless drill. Use an 1/8” drill bit to dimple the center of the spot weld to prevent the cutter from walking.

Running the bit really fast might actually be safer and help prevent bit breakage.
Cobalt bits for instance are supposed to be run at higher drill speeds, since heat isn’t really an issue for cobalt alloyed steel, but brittleness is.
This is specifically out of the speed recommendation in the Precision Twist Drill catalog.
Higher speed is also usually recommended for carbide tipped bits.
There seem to be several different types of Blair bits, although Nlair recommends slower 500RPM speeds.
 
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speed bump

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I bought the hf cutter and it was unimpressive so I put a blair cutter on the hf mandrel and it has done well. Spin it slow and feed it gently.
 

NYBODYMAN

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Twenty+ years ago when I was doing collision work the shops would buy the blair two sided bits for us. If you don't work slow and keep the bit flat, the teeth will break. I used an air drill with a regulator on a slow speed and they would last. I also had a Blue Point spot weld drill. Nowadays, it seems that the mini belt grinder is the way to go. Just grind the metal away.
 

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dnschmidt

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THIS ^^^^ Spot weld bits are a thing of the past. With the new high strength steels like boron steel they're useless. These belt files will remove 100 spot welds before you need a new belt and the belts cost $2.00 each. Astro makes good ones.
 

NYBODYMAN

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^^^^This IS the key as well as keeping the bit flat. The spring loaded arbor tends to walk without the dimple. I would invest in a grinder though. Much easier.
 

Jazz1

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I used SH Industries spot weld cutter to remove floor pans in my ‘68 Firebird. I gave 15 year old #1 son the job of cutting all those spot welds. Bit was getting tired so boy started putting a 1/8” pilot hole at each weld to complete the job. Floor pan removal of those cars is a tedious job, a billion spot welds
 

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sweetk30

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yep them 2 sided bits are good . just dont go crazy . light pressure and kiss kiss kiss tends to be the ticket . i also center punch them first to help hold center before starting .
 

Kev442

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My HF is so stupid they took 5 of them back with heavy wear and broken teeth. Damn glad I looked at the one in my hand a little closer before checking out. Threw the 5 **** ones on the bottom shelf so no one else would get screwed. I'm sure they were back on the peg by the next day...
 
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