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Boss says everyone has to do 2 days a week at the office until they close it. 6 hrs a week better than nothing.

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Not a lot of shop content today, but i did work out there making parts for my makeshift computer desk. Story follows:

Boss says everybody works from home at least 3 days a week. I have been using my den/office for 10 years as a book depository. I need to build shelves, but it's been bottom of the list priority. so book stacks pile up. (I'm a book hoarder) Anyways, this Covid thing looks to last longer than a month. My company expects everyone to keep working even if not on site, since they keep paying us. As a result i have to make a space to work. Setting up on the kitchen table is not going to cut it. I need connectivity and privacy to conduct phone calls. So i empty out my office. Books stacked up in the foyer waist high. I really need bookshelves. I get a nice big space cleaned out and i'm ready for a desk. I have always had a design in mind for my desk. One of those desks with the computer built into it, with a glass panel on top so you can see everything. Geeky, but hey, i'm a bit geeky.
My job requires me to drive CAD about 50% of the time. I have a triple monitor setup at work, and it works great, i have a monitor dedicated to the email, and one for the CAD and one for the spreadsheets or whatever else i need to copy from. I can make do with 2 monitors if needed, but it's not as nice. My laptop, a Lenovo W700 workstation, will support 2 monitors, so i figure i'll make do. Now i need a desk. I intensely dislike desks with file cabinets on both sides, and a narrow space for your legs. I like em wide open underneath so i can move my legs around.
I go on facebook and find not much. I go on craigslist and find not much, but one desk for cheap $10 that i contact the dude. He's still got it. I get an immediate response and then nothing for 2 days. I can't go past sunday without a setup, i have to work at home on monday. the bosses are watching us harder than ever, because they are freaking out about work from home. They'd never allow it without a big emergency. EVERYBODY at work wants this to go smooth so they relax a little. It's saturday afternoon and i'm getting nervous about not having anything, so i start looking again for desks. Then i decide to open up the search for an end goal. I wanted a glass top desk, what about just glass tops? There's a million of em on facebook. I contact about 20 of them. Find a guy 30 minutes away that has 2 glass tables for 20 dollars. One is big, and one is exactly the size i figured i would need for my final computer table. I can use one immediately and one can get turned into my final product. Can't go wrong right?
Wife and i drive up there this afternoon, and buy em and bring em home. I cut a couple of 2x4s up in the shop (mandatory shop content right?) and setup the big table as a computer desk. It's 5' wide and 39" deep. Pretty big. But it works. The other one is 26" x 48" More appropriate for a desk, but it'll wait.
I get a pair of sawhorses out, adjust the legs a bit and drop the top on top of the 2x4s. Glass on top of that. Instant desk. I move all the monitors up top, connect everything and find out windows 7 doesn't do multiple monitors on remote desktop. ARG! That was the whole point of the big desk. Room for lots of monitors.

So that's the extent of the work today. We did take time out to make dinner for my daughter, who turns 17 today. She's NOT happy she's locked up at home. But crazy times, our 25th anniversary is Wed. Who would have thought we couldn't go out to eat?
 
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Does your company do VPN and then you're able to skip the remote desktop? I work from home 80% of the time, and I do not use remote desktop.
Those that can, are to work from home 100% now, so this was not a big change for me fortunately.
I have a docking station for my laptop, and then a second monitor hooked up. Works pretty good for me.
At least you have some work you can do from home... I feel for the folks that have no choice.. be at work or not get paid....
Make sure you have a comfortable chair!!!
 

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I'm working from home now too...I've got a desk but it's in a room that's doubling as my brother-in-law's bedroom...so I'm using the kitchen table.

Sort of working so far, but I definitely miss my double monitors, and my Cad files take about 40 minutes to download and 1.5 hours to upload - I guess it's good I'm not doing much CAD at the moment, though I'd rather be doing that than chasing loose ends on a bunch of projects that got transferred from another ME who went into project management. Can't really complain though - I'm healthy and have a steady paycheck :)
 
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Does your company do VPN and then you're able to skip the remote desktop? I work from home 80% of the time, and I do not use remote desktop.
Those that can, are to work from home 100% now, so this was not a big change for me fortunately.
I have a docking station for my laptop, and then a second monitor hooked up. Works pretty good for me.
At least you have some work you can do from home... I feel for the folks that have no choice.. be at work or not get paid....
Make sure you have a comfortable chair!!!
Yeah, I use a VPN to get to the company network and remote desktop so I can drive the workstation at my desk. They won't let that computer out of the building. Company ip is very valuable. I need a better chair though.

I don't have to move lots of data over my terrible broadband. It's a decent solution.

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I'm working from home now too...I've got a desk but it's in a room that's doubling as my brother-in-law's bedroom...so I'm using the kitchen table.

Can't really complain though - I'm healthy and have a steady paycheck :)

Kitchen table was a non starter for me. And healthy is the most important thing you have now. Keep it up!

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Been a while, checking in, the daily grind is still going. I think we'll be on remote work for at least another month, if not longer. I don't check in here as much because on my down time, i'm home already so i go on to other tasks.
Haven't been out in the shop much. Did get a project on the bike done, a new air filter setup, and working on replacing every last bit of the tractor fuel system. I'm sorta waiting for the rainy season to be done, so i can move a lot of stuff out of the shop and get the back lift setup.

Back to your regularly scheduled garage...
 
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I think it's healing up, but it's tough to tell. There wasn't a lot of pain before really, just felt it moving around. I'm still avoiding sleeping on that side for another month at least. Right now i'm just careful about anything lying on top of my ribs. Or lying on that side. Thanks for asking!
 
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Happy Easter all! I've been somewhat busy in the shop, trying to wrap up a couple of projects,
and get the mess cleaned up. I wanted to get more done this weekend, but seem to be solidly in sequential mode. I know i have a problem with that. Some of it might be the fumes though.

I have gotten the windscreen mounts done on the vmax, and they are in the paint drying process. Its windy out, so the door is closed and i don't like fumes. Soooo, i put a coat of paint or primer on and leave the area. Should be able to get the mounts bolted on tomorrow morning though, and continue the cleanup. One more day off. Then back to work. We're on hard lockdown in Michigan, nobody going anywhere. I did sneak out to get 275 gallons of used oil though. New supplier. I think my restaurant supplier will probably be belly up by the time this is over. I've got a couple years of oil saved up though, so i'm not super worried.

Plan tomorrow is to complete the motorcycle project, throw out everything left over from that project, then put all tools away, and get started on the rebuild of the mower engine. I'm still in waiting mode for the rains to slow down so i can move stuff out of the shop, and install lifts. My feeling is it will be a couple of days of stuff parked outside while moving lift posts around and i don't want everything soggy.

Also on a wierd note, my syncrowave started working normally again. I'm not sure if it was the temp change, or if the 5 wire cord to the pedal is somehow hinky. I had it over by the bike to tack the brackets together. I don't know? :headscrat:
 

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I can’t stand it when something “fixes” itself, those are the worst problems, now you will always wonder what was going on in the first place.

Sounds like you have a good plan for moving forward.
 

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.... in the paint drying process.

Wow, paint drying is a process? I used to live in a cold wet place, but can't recall, maybe due to the fumes themselves? :)

I paint while welds are still warm and install right after. Installing painted parts fulfills my instant gratification needs, even if I have to remove and grind/weld/paint again. Sequential process blocking leads to repeated sampling of shop beverages.
 
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Haha! Yes, it's a process. I can't stand putting something together with wet paint. Get it all over everything. I'm just messy i guess. I knocked out a couple other little things while i clean up. Still haven't made it to the mower engine yet. Need to setup a table or something.
Here's the completed windscreen. I really hope it works well, can't test as it's been snowing today and FRIGID cold.
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I can’t stand it when something “fixes” itself, those are the worst problems, now you will always wonder what was going on in the first place.

Sounds like you have a good plan for moving forward.

Drives me nuts. WHAT is different? Temp as far as i can see is it. So what, the circuit board has a tiny break on it somewhere? the transistor doesn't like cold? ARRRRRGH!!!!
 

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Whilst you're at it, want to figure out why the high freq works on continuous but not on start on our 330A/BP? I'm thinking it's the timer that shuts it off. Ugh, really don't want to dig into it.
 

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Drives me nuts. WHAT is different? Temp as far as i can see is it. So what, the circuit board has a tiny break on it somewhere? the transistor doesn't like cold? ARRRRRGH!!!!

I have successfully used non-conductive "freeze" spray to find components breaking down. Spray it - worky . Heat up again - no worky.

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Jealous of that bike, I've wanted a 'Max for awhile now. Enjoy it and be safe.

Self-healing electronics are part of my day job. good times
 

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Haha! Yes, it's a process. I can't stand putting something together with wet paint. Get it all over everything. I'm just messy i guess. I knocked out a couple other little things while i clean up. Still haven't made it to the mower engine yet. Need to setup a table or something.
Here's the completed windscreen. I really hope it works well, can't test as it's been snowing today and FRIGID cold.

I didn't realize how cold it was until I went out to mow late in the day yesterday. That was a mistake. Hard to believe it's still snowing up there.

I have the schematic for the 330. Somewhere. If i find it i'll look into it.

I've got one. I just hate schematics because I'm bad at reading them. But I looked through and it's pretty simple by the time it gets down the the high freq. The only way it could still work on continuous but not on start is if either the switch is bad on the start side or if the relay it connects to is bad. And it I were a betting man, I'd put my money on that relay. I'm still not entirely sure what turns it off after running for a few seconds. I guess that's above my pay grade.

I found a new one on ebay for $28, but the old one can maybe be fixed if the contacts are dirty.
 
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Jealous of that bike, I've wanted a 'Max for awhile now. Enjoy it and be safe.

Self-healing electronics are part of my day job. good times

Thank you. They are awesome like an old muscle car is. Not a new Vette or anything that's just "sorted", but rough, noisy, and awesome.

I hit full throttle at 110, i thought it was going to rip my arms off. Perfect.
 
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I didn't realize how cold it was until I went out to mow late in the day yesterday. That was a mistake. Hard to believe it's still snowing up there.



I've got one. I just hate schematics because I'm bad at reading them. But I looked through and it's pretty simple by the time it gets down the the high freq. The only way it could still work on continuous but not on start is if either the switch is bad on the start side or if the relay it connects to is bad. And it I were a betting man, I'd put my money on that relay. I'm still not entirely sure what turns it off after running for a few seconds. I guess that's above my pay grade.

I found a new one on ebay for $28, but the old one can maybe be fixed if the contacts are dirty.

Relays contacts bad are a common problem on 330's. Take the lid off and scrub the contacts. It'll start working again.
 
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Well it's time i get back at this. Been 3 weeks since i posted, and plenty going on, but not all garage worthy. Working a lot more than i used to, since it's from home now, it doesn't take much to make dinner then sit back down and work, and before you know it, it's 830 and time to knock off for the night. I try to wind down for an hour or so every night rather than work till i drop. It's also tough trying to get things done without going to the store. Lots of UPS showing up. We're under a severe lockdown in Michigan, and i'm sure everybody knows by now. It's no fun for sure, and probably completely overdone at least here in the sticks.

My computer server died after 10 years, so i ordered a bunch of new hardware and have started to rebuild things, when i wasn't working in the shop. Wife wants her DVR back. All the movies are on that thing.

Last week Sunday i had another gallbladder attack. That got me out of a monday of work and took me down for most of the week. Around Friday i was getting better enough to putter around the house and work on the tractor.

I've been working on the tractor, and it's fuel system issues, got everything rebuilt, even ran a new fuel line out of copper. Clear glass filter, silicone heat shielding, new ignition and it's still coughing now and then. I'm done with it. On Sunday i went and bought a diesel engine to swap into it. Not right now, i'll suffer until i get another mower going and then i'll worry about it. Might be a good winter project if i can get a snow plow going.

I've also been working on cleaning the shop up. I reasoned clearing floor space was priority #1, so i can move cars around and get lifts going. Once a lift is up, i can stack cars and really make some progress. This air handler was taking up a huge amount of real estate. So time to whack it out. I started by setting up scaffolding.
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Then hung unistrut on the ceiling. Lagged into 3 truss members.
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Then mounted unistrut onto the air handler. It's pretty solid.
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Then put fasteners into the strut and coaxed the wife and boy out to help hoist the thing onto the scaffold. They were not amused.


We did manage to get it hung though. Loosely on carriage bolts. Once it was hung, i worked through 3 different lengths bolts until it was tight to the strut.
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Then we slid the a-coil into it's home. It's not sitting quite right, so i need to get the literature and see what's wrong. It only goes in one way so i probably need to jiggle it around a bit. Once that's done, i'll throw covers on it and start planning hard lines. I still need to get a compressor ordered and a vfd to drive it. That's another 500 dollar bill.
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That's about all i had in me today.
 

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I forget - what is the plan for the air handler? If you need any industrial AC parts let me know - I've got a few things heading to the scrap yard soon

You mentioned putting a copper fuel line on your yard tractor - it's probably ok for the limited use it will see, but I've seen several warnings never to use copper for fuel lines due to the risk of them breaking from vibration-induced fatigue (or something like that)
 
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The air handler is going to be fed by a 3ton heat pump. The heat pump will be setup with the other heat source to only run when it's mild out. I'll save the boiler and floor heat for serious winter. The condenser unit i have is a freebie from a friend. It has a bad comp on it. I was thinking i'd buy a 3 phase compressor from the indiana outfit and run it on vfd controlled by the plc for some mild load control for humidity. I don't think it needs all of 3 tons, this building is pretty easy to heat. As far as industrial hvac, do you have any ducting? I haven't figured out what i'm doing on ductwork yet. I'm pretty sure it isn't going to be as big as this air handler is though. 5 ton air handler and swapped the TXV for a 3 ton. Should be pretty efficient if i play my cards right. I might look at slowing the blower down too. I'm sure its a 1hp and i probably don't need that hurricane.
 
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Thanks for stopping by Racer. I'm around but not always doing things GJ worthy. Lately weather has been sucky so i've been indoors working OT. Keepin the job is job #1.

We fixed the a-coil in the air handler. It was not slid in the right slots. I'll clean it now, and work on running the hard lines down to floor level and then wait for the rest of the parts to come in. We cleared about 15 sq ft of floor space. Win!
 

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'They were not amused.'
haha, sounds like my situation.

Sounds like your heading in the right direction to get floor space free'd up.
 

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No ducting, sorry. I probably should have phrased that differently. I've got an environmental test chamber I'm parting out with a bunch of AC parts, including a 3 phase compressor, a Danfoss Maneurop NTZ048A3LR1A with low hours. No idea if this is even close to what you need, but if so let me know.
 
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Haha! I didn't go up there, but i identify with a few of those guys. We're all locked down because it's bad in Detroit. Everywhere else, doesn't seem too bad. I don't know, i see both sides of it. It's just a mess.

Tractor still giving me fits. It's cutting out under load. I replaced the condensor this morning. It's still doing it. I think next step is replace coil. I don't know what else to replace, i'm running out of ammo for the parts cannon.
 
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No ducting, sorry. I probably should have phrased that differently. I've got an environmental test chamber I'm parting out with a bunch of AC parts, including a 3 phase compressor, a Danfoss Maneurop NTZ048A3LR1A with low hours. No idea if this is even close to what you need, but if so let me know.

From what i can tell, that's about 3/4 ton? ~ 8300Btu @ 0F. and it's not R22.

I need a 2.5-3 ton compressor for the "project heat pump"
 
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1957 Oliver Super 55. Delco distributor on a Waukesha engine. Mechanical only. It started acting up about a year ago. I rebuilt the whole ignition system, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, points, condensor. Then rebuilt the whole fuel system, full carb kit, cleaned tank, new sediment bowl, fuel line, glass fuel filter, copper insulated fuel line. Larger than stock diameter. Still runs like **** warmed up under load. Might run fine for a couple minutes under load, then like you shut the ignition off for a second. Replaced condensor today with a napa part. No change.

I actually am so frustrated with it i bought a diesel engine on sunday that will swap in with a little work. Isuzu C201 thermoking engine. Very similar specs. Need to fab an adapter plate and mounts. Not a weekend project, but i can handle it with a bridgeport and lathe and CMM at work. Intake and exhaust on same side as current, injector pump is bosch / zexel copy inline (very good pump). Need to cut down the oil sump as it's ridiculously large currently. Like 17 quarts. These engines are rated like 20,000 hrs between rebuilds. Insanely overbuilt. I'm about at the point of scrapping the oliver engine. Nothing fixes it. And i need it running quite badly. It's invaluable on this farm.
 

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How old is the tractor, does it have vacuum advance on the distributor or is it a diesel?


Never heard of a condenser or coil on a diesel.


I was actually going to recommend throwing the gas motor away and getting a diesel one, but I didn't want to sound like a sarcastic ***. I guess I wouldn't have been. :p Gas motors suuuuuck.
 
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Never heard of a condenser or coil on a diesel.


I was actually going to recommend throwing the gas motor away and getting a diesel one, but I didn't want to sound like a sarcastic ***. I guess I wouldn't have been. :p Gas motors suuuuuck.

You're preachin' to the choir brother. I hate gas engines. But the diesel that came in this tractor wasn't much better. Bosch PSB pump, with a right angle drive distributor head. I actually have one in a parts tractor. I'm told that there's MAYBE one shop left in the world that works on those pumps, somewhere in indiana, and parts are no longer made, and whatever is left on the shelf is it, and last time i checked a rebuild was ~ $700ish and if the head had issues, rotsa ruck. And this was like 15 years ago. I haven't been super motivated to pursue it. I guess with being an engineer i could just re-engineer some other pump, but again, it's been a low priority. The isuzu will be super easy, the toughest part of the whole deal might be retuning the governor for the speeds i need to run. Of course, the easiest way this problem goes away is if i find out what's wrong with the damned thing...
 
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And now for the "You're too stupid to breathe" section of the thread...

Tractor is fixed. I drove to Ypsilanti to grab a few coils from a buddy this morning. Put one on the tractor tonight, still misfiring. Decided to throw a voltmeter on the tractor coil + while i was running it, and it was dropping voltage occasionally while it dropped out. So maybe wiring is an issue. I just rewired the whole tractor a year ago, new switch, terminals, wire, soldered, heat shrink, etc. I decided to bypass the ignition switch so i pulled the new ignition mounting plate off, and immediately found a loose wire on the ign terminal. DOH!!!! My brain wouldn't believe there was an issue with the new stuff i did, so i didn't even think about it. Problem solved.... I'm too stupid to breathe... UGH.
 

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Hey, you found the problem! If you were too stupid to breathe I doubt your dead body would ever have figured it out :lol_hitti
 
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Lots of hard fought wins today. Sheesh. Started out the morning at 25F, decided to stay indoors and work on new computer hardware for a bit. Need to flash a new bios onto a SATA card. Not much was working. Several hours later, i finally get it working. Decide it's warmed up enough to go outside. I mow for a bit, with the fixed tractor. Then decide to get out one of the lift beams with the cylinder on it. Decide to get it cleaned up and drained. Haul it over to the front of the shop, pull fittings and hoses off, and use a come along to drain the cylinder into a drain pan. Then i stand the power unit up and pull the drain plug. As i'm draining the last of the oil out into the drain pan, it's sitting on top of the beam and it's slippery. It shifts a bit, as it's heavy, and it falls down. Into you guessed it, the drain pan. But not into it. Onto the side, where it promptly flips up and dumps all the oil onto the ground and my feet. Don't think grass is ever gonna grow there again. And a couple gallons that won't be heating the shop this winter.

I think i need to quit while i'm only a little behind...
 
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Now that my most essential tool for getting work done is fixed, i setup some barrels and moved two of the cross beams over in front of the shop and soaked em down with pb blaster. They'll get a good wire wheeling and a coat of paint and then move into the shop. Then i get to play shop tetris again for a while while the lift gets assembled. Hopefully they go together without too much work.

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