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Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT A new lease on life: 30x40 schoolhouse conversion

Workspaces between 705 and 1200 squarefeet.

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Spring 2025 update:
Well this thread has certainly morphed into a lot more than I ever expected. I thought I'd edit this to add some clarity and timeline of events past and planned.
-The first few pages are of restoring and getting the old schoolhouse watertight.
-After this, the focus has shifted to the house and the eventual garage addition. I have a lot of work to do here and I'm doing most of it myself
-As of 2025 the schoolhouse is mostly finished externally, but the interior finishing is on hold until the work on the house is done, and that's going to be a few years at the rate that I work at. The exterior of the house and the garage addition are done, and now I'm moving on to the internal work.
But there's lots of random and interesting (I think anyways) projects going on in between. It seems there is enough interest in the happenings on a small country property that I'll try and keep posting what I'm up to that's somewhat shop/garage/tools related.

Thanks for reading!

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Thought it best to start a thread about this project. Going to be lots of work to do and maybe someone else will find it interesting. That, and I finally have a workshop space and I want to show it off a bit. :bounce:

Some backstory. After looking for a long time for a house with some land, we finally found a fixer upper in our budget range. The house itself is in decent shape (it needs updating and an addition) but the future workshop is in desperate need of help.

It started out as a one room schoolhouse, and from what we can tell was built in 1870. It was a school up until 1970 when it was sold to the previous owner, who's estate we bought it from. When it was sold in 1970 he converted the inside into a house. It stayed this way until the early 1980's when they built a modular home on the same property. After that they put a sliding door on the front corner of the schoolhouse and it was used as a workshop for his semi trucks. The rest of the building was used as a dumping ground, and as the previous owners health declined they didn't maintain it at all. Needless to say 40 years of neglect has taken its toll.

That prings us to the present. When we toured the property before buying it the schoolhouse was roped off and we were told not to enter it. So we bought the property under the assumption we would be tearing down the schoolhouse. But after having a look inside, it looked like the structure was still fairly solid. So we decided we would try and save the building, both for the historical aspect and because building new is out of our budget. So begins the biggest project I've ever done.

I'll post pics of what we've done so far and try and keep this updated as we go. Thanks for reading!
 
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So here's what we are starting with. We actually already replaced the caution tape over the front door opening to class it up a bit. :lol_hitti

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Taking down the bell tower. The 4 columns were so rotted, I dont know how it was still up there. Have I mentioned that I dont like heights??:shocking:
 

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And here's what it looked like inside. The first pic is taken looking in from the sliding door after already clearing away a bunch of junk.

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So the first step was to get rid of all the PO's junk. And wow there was a lot of it. We filled a 20 yard dumpster with garbage. And that doesnt include the wood, scrap steel, and hazardous waste that we sorted for later. :shocking:

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Edit to add: that second pic is of a raccoon that made a home in a bunch of fiber board panels. The third pic is one of many new truck parts we found just laying around.
 

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Now that we got rid of all the junk we started to take down the framing from when they turned it into a house.

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I forgot to add the best part to this story. Since the PO neglected the building for the last 40 years there have been quite a few critters that have made it their home, including racoons. Apparently one of their favorite places to use as an indoor toilet was on top of the ceiling drywall between the ceiling joists. I found that out after I pulled down some of the drywall and got showered in dried out racoon poop.... :shocking::mad::mad:
 

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Pretty cool building. Im glad you are saving it. I know a family in MN with a similar building they saved from the county decades ago.
 
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Once the framing was out we started to tear up the floor. It was very uneven and rotten in a couple places from a leaking roof. One of those spots I found by falling through it. Luckily the floor was only a couple feet above the ground. :lol_hitti

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Some backstory: I love tractors and I've wanted one for years but never had a need for one. Well that changed when we bought this place. At least that was my excuse to convince the Mrs; although now that we are working to save the schoolhouse it gets used everyday it seems. I found this tractor about an hour away, it's an international 484 diesel with 950 hours. I'm not an international fanboy but my grandpa had a 444 tractor and it was indestructible so I knew these tractors are durable.

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My plan is to use this building as a auto shop and woodworking shop. There's no way the current floors will supports a vehicle so they are coming out. Not to mention there is a fair bit of water damage and rot. But where the floors are in good shape they are beautiful. You can still see the scuff marks from when it was a school.

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The last pic you can see the floor frame. The floor joists were sitting on that timber that was laid down the middle. The problem was that timber was sitting on bare dirt. Needless to say it didn't hold up well.

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Fortunately the inside walls are still in great shape for the most part. All of the barnboard will have to come off but I should be able to save the majority of it.

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Also a pic of what the outside looked like before we started cleaning it up. The door was one we threw up that was laying inside, to try and keep some of the elements and critters out.

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The last pic is stuff that we found cleaning up 20' along the base of the wall in the second pic. You just have to shake your head. :lol_hitti

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We found a scrap yard that was still open during all the Covid restrictions so we took the first load of scrap steel in. Price was better than I thought. :beer:

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This is all of the hazardous waste we found inside the building. And I've already set aside some full containers of grease and oil to keep. Once the township dump opens up again we will be getting rid of it.

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This is the final section of floor to come up, and also the most rotten. The floor joists are 2.75" by 10" and I can break them apart by hand. When you toss them they release a massive orange cloud where they land. :shocking:

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And that brings us to the present. We are currently getting quotes for having the roof redone and getting a floor poured. We will be hiring out the roofing and fascia work. Have I mentioned that I really hate heights??? Lol

We are still trying to decide what to do about the exterior siding. The boards that are on it now have to come off. They are in rough shape and unfortunately smaller than current boards so I can't really splice them. We are trying to decide between residing it in metal or new board and batten. There is an amish sawmill fairly close so I can get B&B for about $1/sq ft. Still getting quotes for metal but looks to be in the same price range. On the plus side for b&b is it would be easy for me to install but more maintenance down the road. Metal would be much less maintenance but I've never worked with it before.
 

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Very cool project! Reminds me of the church that somebody on here gutted and filled the basement to use as a shop. Wish I could find the link for you. Maybe somebody else in here knows what I'm referring to and can share the link with you. May give you some ideas, or atleast somebody to share the struggles of this kind of undertaking. Best of look! Look forward to watching your progress!
 
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Pretty cool building. Im glad you are saving it. I know a family in MN with a similar building they saved from the county decades ago.

Thanks! Yeah when we started learning about its history we really felt we had to keep it. Although now I understand why so many old buildings get torn down; they are a lot of work!
 
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Very cool project! Reminds me of the church that somebody on here gutted and filled the basement to use as a shop. Wish I could find the link for you. Maybe somebody else in here knows what I'm referring to and can share the link with you. May give you some ideas, or atleast somebody to share the struggles of this kind of undertaking. Best of look! Look forward to watching your progress!

Thanks! Yeah if you or someone else knew how to find that link that would be great. I searched but didn't come up with anything.
 

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Very cool project! I "acquired" a similar amount of junk with my place as well a decrepit building that I am fixing up. Keep updating it looks like it will be really interesting.

Wade
 

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Nice to restore a piece of history. Obviously a lot of work, but should make for an interesting build! I have 2 friends that converted old country schoolhouses into homes in western Nebraska; both about 30x70! Had to move both, but turned out nicely
 
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People that are willing and able to take on such a project impress the **** out of me. I tip my hat to you, sir. Very cool project!
 

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Very cool project! Reminds me of the church that somebody on here gutted and filled the basement to use as a shop. Wish I could find the link for you. Maybe somebody else in here knows what I'm referring to and can share the link with you. May give you some ideas, or atleast somebody to share the struggles of this kind of undertaking. Best of look! Look forward to watching your progress!

The one I remember the member gutted the building, brought fill dirt in for basement and made a huge garage to park his car collection in. The location was in an old Lutheran Church. I’m thinking Either N/S Dakota or Minnesota.
 

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The one I remember the member gutted the building, brought fill dirt in for basement and made a huge garage to park his car collection in. The location was in an old Lutheran Church. I’m thinking Either N/S Dakota or Minnesota.

I remember that thread too, but thought he was located somewhere in Canada.
 

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Lots of raccoon fun; be careful around that ****, it can have worms in it. Any metal shovels or anything you use to clean it up they say to heat it after you're done. Don't ask how I know.

Looks like it will be nice when done. Where are you located?
 
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Lots of raccoon fun; be careful around that ****, it can have worms in it. Any metal shovels or anything you use to clean it up they say to heat it after you're done. Don't ask how I know.

Looks like it will be nice when done. Where are you located?


Does that apply even if it's quite old and dry? Didnt find any fresh stuff while we were working in there. But good to know.

We're in SW Ontario, about an hour north of London.
 

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I remember that thread too, but thought he was located somewhere in Canada.

I think the one you are looking was called "Church Build" located in Saskatchewan. It was an old Lutheran Church.

I'd post a link, but since I don't have 5 posts the system won't let me. It's currently on page 21 of the Garage Gallery.
 
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Nice to restore a piece of history. Obviously a lot of work, but should make for an interesting build! I have 2 friends that converted old country schoolhouses into homes in western Nebraska; both about 30x70! Had to move both, but turned out nicely


30x70 schoolhouses? And they were one room? If so that would be huge. Never even heard of anything that big here, pretty much all about 30x40 from what we've read.
 

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Now that we got rid of all the junk we started to take down the framing from when they turned it into a house.

I forgot to add the best part to this story. Since the PO neglected the building for the last 40 years there have been quite a few critters that have made it their home, including racoons. Apparently one of their favorite places to use as an indoor toilet was on top of the ceiling drywall between the ceiling joists. I found that out after I pulled down some of the drywall and got showered in dried out racoon poop.... :shocking::mad::mad:

Be glad it was dried, would a lot worse in it's "fresh" state. :mad: I am not a big fan of masks but that is a situation where it would be recommended.
 
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Be glad it was dried, would a lot worse in it's "fresh" state. :mad: I am not a big fan of masks but that is a situation where it would be recommended.

Yes thankfully we still had a couple N95 masks around (can't buy any anywhere because Covid) and thankfully I was wearing one at the time. For almost the entire demo phase we were wearing masks because there was so much dust and dirt getting kicked up. There was a couple times where I didn't and boy did I pay for it; coughing like I was a 50 year chain smoker.

Let me tell you, you get lots of hateful looks in the hardware store when your picking up supplies just before the Covid shutdowns start happening, and you get a coughing spell and can't stop. :lol_hitti
 

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Does that apply even if it's quite old and dry? Didnt find any fresh stuff while we were working in there. But good to know.

We're in SW Ontario, about an hour north of London.

Yes, they say it takes 2-3 weeks for the worms to form. I know it's old but I wouldn't take any chances.
 

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People that are willing and able to take on such a project impress the **** out of me. I tip my hat to you, sir. Very cool project!

I have to agree. With the amount of land you have I personally would have just ripped it down and built a pole barn. Thats just me :beer:

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I have to agree. With the amount of land you have I personally would have just ripped it down and built a pole barn. Thats just me :beer:

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Truth be told, in a perfect world I very well may have done just that. But our budget doesn't allow for the cost of a new building. Even this current building is going to be a long term project; we are trying to save and spread out the work on it because we are planning an addition to the house. That, and the historical aspect of it means something too.
 

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Looks like you are not lacking in ambition. Got you work cut out for you but you can rebuild any way you want. That's the great thing about doing it yourself.
 

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Well that does look like a large project. You could possibly sell the old siding for about as much as new will cost you.

Old barn wood is in high demand atleast here in the US it is.
 
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Well that does look like a large project. You could possibly sell the old siding for about as much as new will cost you.

Old barn wood is in high demand atleast here in the US it is.


We are thinking of doing that. Not sure yet if I'll take off the old siding or just go over top of it with new.
 
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So we finally got all of the old floor ripped out on the inside. Dont have any pics of that right now.

Had some nice weather and got the scrap wood pile cleaned up and moved to the burnpile.

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Also climbed up into the attic to make sure there wasn't any rotten rafters before the roofers start. Interesting how they did framing back in the day. And more treasures up here too including lots of raccoon poop.

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Love this build. Looks like you have a ton of work ahead of you, cant wait to see wha tyou do with it! Subscribed!
 
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