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I do think at this point if anyone on GJ bought an Icon box there's absolutely no way they would tell everyone for fear of an internet beating. It's like owning a Segway - it's fun and cool as long as your friends don't find out.
 
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I do think at this point if anyone on GJ bought an Icon box there's absolutely no way they would tell everyone for fear of an internet beating. It's like owning a Segway - it's fun and cool as long as your friends don't find out.

I've heard that one before :lol_hitti

Also, is that a S1 on your profile pic? I've been wanting to get one for a bit. I've got an S3 that I finished a 300tdi swap on recently.
 

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...Also, is that a S1 on your profile pic? I've been wanting to get one for a bit. I've got an S3 that I finished a 300tdi swap on recently.

1969 Series IIa. Very nice on the 300tdi swap. Makes for a very different experience than the two and a quarter petrol (or diesel for that matter), I'm sure.
 

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I'm a DIY guy and bought used Snap-On box for 2,000. it's a really nice KTL 1022. With the used box market for US made boxes there's not a good reason to buy ICON in my opinion unless you want the entire setup. I wouldn't mind a top chest and side locker, but they need to be half of what they are priced at to get my attention. Otherwise I'll keep watching for used.

I been in auto and truck trade for 30yrs and I never bought a new box.
bought and flipped used truck boxes through the years and boxes now owe me nothing .
I got 5 used matco boxes in my shop . Matco and Mac make great used buys, snapon great boxes but higher prices on used market .

I seen the ICON boxes in store and while built well enough compared to import competition like homak and extreme the package and price is not enticing .
Power socket placement is awful and copying snapons power drawer not great, charging batteries in enclosed unvented space not great idea for battery life ...
Copying never a great idea, fresh ideas and options like a simple deep or shallow drawer customization would help it rise above the others in this price segment but it simply offers nothing special, not even a good deal price .
Other concern is how good are they long term and how good spares be 10 to 20 years time ! Brand has to earn it's status before demanding the higher prices .
Finish on ones I saw all had some level minor defects, they seem pretty stout but no way I chuck that amount of money into chinese boxes and a HF new brand .
IF you got 2 to 4K real money then used market offers amazing value and minimal to no loss on resale .
If want low cost then Masterforce, Extreme, Tool Vault etc offers a lot .

There is a market for it but not with way it packaged and marketed currently .

Seems to me HF wants higher pricing without putting in the work to make a good consumer package .
They just bullshitting with marketing and packaging and not truly committed to proper research, not working closely with manufacturers and no innovative or even simply smart with tool line development ...
 
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I finally saw them in Harbor Freight about two weeks ago. They feel very cheap, and remind me of Craftsman boxes in Sears --- except they look like a Snap-on.

They need a 50% reduction in pricing to be in the realm of reality for their market quality.

They don't feel at all cheap to me, and I own a KR 722. The US General boxes on the other hand...


To be honest, if you pay more than 25% of retail for a Snap-on box you are overpaying.

If you could let me know where new Snap On boxes are for sale for 25% of retail, I'd be most grateful!
 
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Seems to me HF wants higher pricing without putting in the work to make a good consumer package .
They just bullshitting with marketing and packaging and not truly committed to proper research, not working closely with manufacturers and no innovative or even simply smart with tool line development ...

because innovation costs actual money. And extra expense collides head on with their marketing message.

they have the classic challenge of low price sellers everywhere--how to drive growth long term
 

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because innovation costs actual money. And extra expense collides head on with their marketing message.

they have the classic challenge of low price sellers everywhere--how to drive growth long term

innovation here cost very little besides actually thinking a little first before finalizing the product order.
issue is they rather rely on marketing ******** and packaging over bit of effort on product sourcing and details .

they would sell if offered advantages over the competition in this price sector and stood out in resale because of it.
As is HF stands out but for all the wrong reasons . Half arsed tool lines and **** marketing won't drive sales/growth or brand recognition ...
 
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The biggest issue is the price point/perceived quality issue.

To dismiss these boxes as overpriced Chinese **** from a retailer that specializes in Chinese ****, is misinformed. Datsun, Toyota, Honda, etc. used to make "Chinese ****." The American made stuff was "way better." Then they grabbed a toehold, and Americans began to perceive value in these lower priced, but albeit lower-perceived-quality, products. As market share grew, the product improved and soon the likes of Lexus, Infinity, Acura, etc. were born. Initially, I'd imagine getting consumers to buy a Lexus or Acura was more difficult. It became a more expensive version of the lesser product. It eventualluy morphed into its own brand identity. Now, their perceived quality surpasses the domestic manufacturers in the minds of many (most?) consumers. Likewise, the price of these cars is commensurate with their perceived quality. This is precisely the well-worn path that HF is currently on. They marketed **** tools for a cheap price, then upped the game with Pitts Pro (think 80s-90s Toyotas). Now we see Icon, which is their rollout of a Lexus-like brand. The problem is that growth like this takes time and must be incremental. Instead of selling a slightly higher priced USG/Pitts Pro product in an effort to build the Icon brand, HF introduced a product that is marginally better than it's prior high-end offerings and priced it at multiples of its other products. It tried to make Icon be an iconic offering with absolutely zero provenance. The discrepancy is too great to be successful.

In my opinion, Icon suffers from a gap in perceived quality vs. price point. The USG boxes are pretty damn nice for the money. If I didn't have a couple Snap-On rollaways already, that is probably where I would spend my dollars. Sufficient storage for most advanced home gamers, but still at a price point most can swallow. A nice Christmas bonus or saving your pennies for a few months makes this box attainable. Not so with Icon.

Historically, HF boxes sucked. All of a sudden, the USG44 and USG56 gained a strong following. Then the USG72 followed suit. While these boxes have become well regarded, how long have they really been around in the grand scheme of things? Maybe 10 years? Still, on sale, the pinnacle of the HF offering was roughly $1,000.00. Then comes the Icon brand with a ****** launch that took too long to roll out, suffered from QC issues, etc. For a company that has a reputation for **** tools that it is trying to overcome, nothing could have been worse from the standpoint of trying to position its new premium line. Once these issues are ironed out, Icon could become the next Lexus, commanding a premium in the import tools market, but today isn't that day. They have not succeeded at the USG price point for a long enough period of time to divest themselves of the "**** tools" albatross around their neck or to prove that they can offer long-term product support on higher priced items like rollcabs.

Products need to directly compete in a market segment or identify their own new market segment. Here, Icon seems lost. USG fits in the sub $1,000.00 market and competes fairly well with other offerings from big box stores, internet, etc. The problem is the next step up is 4x the price! If I want a 72" box that is 30" deep, I can't find that at HF. I can get close at HF with the Icon line at roughly $3,800, but the depth is lacking. What I can buy that fits my desires is a 72"x30" box with a free stainless top for $2,400.00 from strictlytoolboxes.com. Now, why in the hell would I pay 50% more for a box that is of similar quality with less capacity? Oh, and that stainless top from HF? That's another $500.00. Now I am close to paying twice as much at HF for less storage. NFW. Unfortunately, the reality is that THIS is the place HF needs to compete. Would I be willing to pay more for Icon than USG? Sure. Am I going to pay 4x as much? No. There is certainly some incremental value from being able to put my hands on it in the store, but not double the price. Maybe that incremental value takes the form of me buying a 25" deep box I can touch vs. a 30" one I can't. Either way though, the backstop for this discussion is the used truck box market. I bought a beautiful Snap-On 72" x 30" box for $3,000.00 on CL. I got a deal, but I see similar deals fairly frequently. With that being the case, I just do not see a market for a box that approaches that price point, much less one that surpasses it.

I do not pretend to know what HF knows; their access to data far surpasses mine and my common sense approach likely pales in comparison to their market research. What I do know is that Icon has been roundly regarded as a complete and utter flop. Adjusting the brand position is in order, or else the poor performance will continue until the brand dies or is sustained only through sheer will by a massive hemorrhaging of profits from more successful products HF sells.
 
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might quibble a bit with the toyota/lexus analogy, but helpful regardless.

remember that Toyota initially aimed Lexus at Cadillac, which they viewed as a soft beatable target, and priced Lexus below Cadillac. And quite carefully and credibly differentiated the Lexus offering from Cadillac--in actual quality, support, cust sat, attention to detail etc..

in Icon's case, I guess they aimed for SO, priced it comparable and certainly high, and didn't differentiate it.
 

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innovation here cost very little besides actually thinking a little first before finalizing the product order.
issue is they rather rely on marketing ******** and packaging over bit of effort on product sourcing and details .

they would sell if offered advantages over the competition in this price sector and stood out in resale because of it.
As is HF stands out but for all the wrong reasons . Half arsed tool lines and **** marketing won't drive sales/growth or brand recognition ...

Just to play devil's advocate, what boxes that are in a similar price range would you rather have, or have similar specs? The Icon boxes are almost in a segment of their own in terms of price, metal thickness, and weight capacity.

I've seen people mention the Extreme boxes, but when you compare the 72" Extreme to 73" Icon, there is almost a 300 lb weight difference in the box itself. The Icon is clearly much more heavy duty.
 

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might quibble a bit with the toyota/lexus analogy, but helpful regardless.

remember that Toyota initially aimed Lexus at Cadillac, which they viewed as a soft beatable target, and priced Lexus below Cadillac. And quite carefully and credibly differentiated the Lexus offering from Cadillac--in actual quality, support, cust sat, attention to detail etc..

in Icon's case, I guess they aimed for SO, priced it comparable and certainly high, and didn't differentiate it.

Isn't that really the point? When the higher-end import brands were introduced, they did so incrementally. It was a nicer Toyota, NOT a Cadillac. Once the "nicer Toyota" version of Lexus was established, the differentiation continued to grow between Toyota and Lexus. My point is that Icon is the equivalent of launching the Lexus brand that nobody had ever heard of as a Cadillac killer. The quality of the brand needs to be established before you go fro the jugular.
 

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Just to play devil's advocate, what boxes that are in a similar price range would you rather have, or have similar specs? The Icon boxes are almost in a segment of their own in terms of price, metal thickness, and weight capacity.

I've seen people mention the Extreme boxes, but when you compare the 72" Extreme to 73" Icon, there is almost a 300 lb weight difference in the box itself. The Icon is clearly much more heavy duty.

Extreme professional and tool vault elite .

I would take a 72" Masterforce as value option punching above it's weight for import boxes .

The ICON boxes been specced purely to beat snapon marketing numbers in typical HF trump card games .
The ICON boxes do feel stout due to metal gauge but what it truly offers in design, features is nothing special and durability needs to be proved .

Points like box depth, socket positioning no drawer options point to very little common sense and thought on what the market sector needs .
Thick metal don't make a good box, how it folded and how it spot welded is critical, same with slides and wheels, slides on the ICON seemed suspect in durability to me.
I wouldn't put over 2K into any import box unless no other option existed.
Good introductory price and some level of drawer customization and more thought on small design details would make it stand out from any other options in this price sector and install more confidence in the product .
As is they give me the impression it half arsed and knowing HF and the chinese it likely is .
 
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As market share grew, the product improved and soon the likes of Lexus, Infinity, Acura, etc. were born. Initially, I'd imagine getting consumers to buy a Lexus or Acura was more difficult.

Here's the difference - Toyota went to GREAT pains to separate Lexus and Toyota. Different dealer networks. Different standards of service quality. Different customer experience.

The problem with HF/Icon is that you get the same customer experience buying a $2000 lower box as you do when buying a set of defective jack stands or a cheap rope.
 

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Here's the difference - Toyota went to GREAT pains to separate Lexus and Toyota. Different dealer networks. Different standards of service quality. Different customer experience.

The problem with HF/Icon is that you get the same customer experience buying a $2000 lower box as you do when buying a set of defective jack stands or a cheap rope.

Yep, having a new Chevy Chevette and new Cadillac on the same dealer lot, is just ridiculous.

Maybe Harbor Freight should open 1,000 "Icon" tool stores. :headscrat
 
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Yep, having a new Chevy Chevette and new Cadillac on the same dealer lot, is just ridiculous.

Maybe Harbor Freight should open 1,000 "Icon" tool stores. :headscrat

Or... sell via non-HF retail outlets. Or... set up a special Icon website/CS interface. Or... a million other things which make more sense than what they're currently doing to differentiate the brands - which is nothing. :thumbup:

Every single brand that tries to introduce an upmarket sister brand separates the customer facing side of the brands in some way. Kia/Hyundai/Genesis being the most recent example.

I'm not sure how citing a struggling Cadillac as an example of how to do it makes sense, but OK.

2019 Cadillac sales:
156,246

2019 Lexus sales:
298,114

Icon is bound to succeed.
 

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Or... sell via non-HF retail outlets. Or... set up a special Icon website/CS interface. Or... a million other things which make more sense than what they're currently doing to differentiate the brands - which is nothing. :thumbup:

Every single brand that tries to introduce an upmarket sister brand separates the customer facing side of the brands in some way. Kia/Hyundai/Genesis being the most recent example.

I'm not sure how citing a struggling Cadillac as an example of how to do it makes sense, but OK.

2019 Cadillac sales:
156,246

2019 Lexus sales:
298,114

Icon is bound to succeed.


Well, ya got we with the Cadillac sales figures. :bounce: :lol_hitti

If the Icon tool brand is "not succeeding", how do you know?

Just curious, I have no idea myself and not really that discussion at a tool forum counts all that much.
 

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... Datsun, Toyota, Honda, etc. used to make "Chinese ****." The American made stuff was "way better."

Nope. They made "Japanese ****".

'Made in Japan' was a joke in the 50's and 60's. Then by the late '70's they were eating our domestic automaker's lunch. Made in Japan eventually became something to be proud of rather than laughed at. Of course the Chinese and Japanese business cultures are completely different.
 
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Yep, having a new Chevy Chevette and new Cadillac on the same dealer lot, is just ridiculous.

When Hyundai introduced the Eqqus, to compete against Mercedes S class, BMW 7 series, and Lexus LS, in the full size luxury segment, they offered to pick up the owner's car (and drop off a loaner) when service was required. This because Hyundai thought it would be bad perception by the customer to hang out at the dealer next to some person getting their Accent serviced (and listening to them complaining about the price of an oil filter).
 
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If the Icon tool brand is "not succeeding", how do you know?

Just curious, I have no idea myself and not really that discussion at a tool forum counts all that much.

You can get a pretty damn good idea by looking at social media posts, store stock levels, pricing changes and secondary market sales (ebay, craigslist, facebook).

From what I have seen, the Icon hand tools are selling fairly well and the boxes aren't.
 

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When Hyundai introduced the Eqqus, to compete against Merceds S class, BMW 7 series, and Lexus LS, in the full size luxury segment, they offered to pick up the owner's car (and drop off a loaner) when service was required. This because Hyundai thought it would be bad perception by the customer to hang out at the dealer next to some person getting their Accent serviced (and listening to them complaining about the price of an oil filter).

Ok, fair enough, but is sound's like Harbor Freight wanted to offer an upgraded hand tool and box line - just like they have done with power tools etc, over the past decades, that at least seem to have worked out pretty good.

Obviously tools are not automobiles are not the same thing, so building separate "dealerships" does not make much sense, to me anyway.

What should they do?
 

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Obviously tools are not automobiles are not the same thing, so building separate "dealerships" does not make much sense, to me anyway.

What should they do?

Oh I totally agree.

What should they do? That's above my pay grade... :dunno:
 

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Ok, fair enough, but is sound's like Harbor Freight wanted to offer an upgraded hand tool and box line - just like they have done with power tools etc, over the past decades, that at least seem to have worked out pretty good.

Obviously tools are not automobiles are not the same thing, so building separate "dealerships" does not make much sense, to me anyway.

What should they do?

I have all kinds of thoughts on that, but I'd want them to pay me for them :bounce:

My very-general answer is they haven't don't very much to differentiate the in-store experience for any of the Icon stuff, and that's a problem IMHO.
 

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A decade from now, the HF Icon rollout will make an interesting case study for business schools across the country. A low budget tool retailer tries to sell a $4000 tool box to their customers. This is an HF customer base who thinks $25 for a ratchet is too expensive and will faithfully clip coupons to get that $25 ratchet for $15. And HF pitched a $4000 tool box to these people. It's really unfathomable.

I don't have a problem with HF. Before the Icon rollout, I thought HF had a smart business model--pitching low cost tools to budget-minded DIYers. And some of their products have real value, particularly their Daytona floor jacks and USG tool boxes (I own both). But the Icon rollout has always been inexplicable to me. I was in my local HF right before the lockdown. And not one single Icon box ever made it to the store floor. But USG cabinets were all over the place.

I 100% agree it's inexplicable.

It reminds me exactly of my local ski area which has always sought to compete with the likes of Vail and Aspen....they figured if they just charged similar prices for lift tickets "The Emporer's New Clothes" phenomenon would simply fool people into thinking they surely must be comparable to Aspen or Vail. It never really worked.

Icon had a chance to come out as a top-quality but reasonably priced brand, but instead they chose to swing for the fences with prices that make me -- a DINK tool junkie -- balk. If your prices are high enough to make me shake my head and chuckle, something is wrong
 

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Nope. They made "Japanese ****".

'Made in Japan' was a joke in the 50's and 60's. Then by the late '70's they were eating our domestic automaker's lunch. Made in Japan eventually became something to be proud of rather than laughed at. Of course the Chinese and Japanese business cultures are completely different.

Precisely why it is in quotes... How many times have you heard 'murican folks say "Japanese ****"? You haven't for the exact reason you point out. I was trying to drive home the point about perceived quality. And the perception of years ago, was that anything from east Asia was all "Chinese ****". That doesn't mean that it was, just that that was the perception.
 

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So people really think Icon boxes would be selling better if they opened a boutique tool shop to keep the rifraf out? You want to buy a toolbox from a dude in a suit and tie that hands you some lemon water on the way in?

The most expensive boxes in the market are usually ordered unseen from a sweaty dude that drives around from shop to shop in a cube van.

There's not really any such thing as an upscale tool store in the market place and there's a reason for that. People buying tools don't give a **** about stuff like that, and buying tools is wholly different from buying a luxury car. I really don't understand the comparison.
 

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Nope. They made "Japanese ****".

'Made in Japan' was a joke in the 50's and 60's. Then by the late '70's they were eating our domestic automaker's lunch. Made in Japan eventually became something to be proud of rather than laughed at. Of course the Chinese and Japanese business cultures are completely different.

I've argued that this is false in the past. Japan were leaders in other areas of manufacturing even prior to their dominance in auto sales. An example is optics systems (Canon/Nikon) from WWII to the Korean war period were generally seen as superior to anything being made in the USA. Then there is their numerous electronic innovations in the 70s and 80s. Even when they were taking western technology and cloning it their engineers didn't do straight clones but often improved it.

China's original domestic manufacturing and innovating capabilities pale in comparison.
 

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I've argued that this is false in the past. Japan were leaders in other areas of manufacturing even prior to their dominance in auto sales. An example is optics systems (Canon/Nikon) from WWII to the Korean war period were generally seen as superior to anything being made in the USA. Then there is their numerous electronic innovations in the 70s and 80s. Even when they were taking western technology and cloning it their engineers didn't do straight clones but often improved it.

China's original domestic manufacturing and innovating capabilities pale in comparison.

Fair enough.

Still stands though that 'made in Japan' (for many, many consumer items) in the 50's and 60's were generally of poor quality. By the 70's they had made great strides in innovation and manufacturing. They were a force to be reckoned with by the 80's

I totally agree with the Japan/China comparison.
 
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I've argued that this is false in the past. Japan were leaders in other areas of manufacturing even prior to their dominance in auto sales. An example is optics systems (Canon/Nikon) from WWII to the Korean war period were generally seen as superior to anything being made in the USA. Then there is their numerous electronic innovations in the 70s and 80s. Even when they were taking western technology and cloning it their engineers didn't do straight clones but often improved it.

China's original domestic manufacturing and innovating capabilities pale in comparison.

In that same vein, I'm not even sure that the early Japanese vehicles sold here were "low quality" necessarily. It wasn't so much an increase in quality that directly correlated to an increase in sales - it was more acceptance by American buyers.

In the 70s Americans didn't want to accept that anything other than an American car could be high quality, so it took some time to change that perception. If the early models were low quality like expected, there wouldn't have even been a chance for them to grow quality over time.
 

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In that same vein, I'm not even sure that the early Japanese vehicles sold here were "low quality" necessarily. It wasn't so much an increase in quality that directly correlated to an increase in sales - it was more acceptance by American buyers.

In the 70s Americans didn't want to accept that anything other than an American car could be high quality, so it took some time to change that perception. If the early models were low quality like expected, there wouldn't have even been a chance for them to grow quality over time.

Precisely the point behind my comment regarding “perceived quality.” Americans did not perceive the import cars to be quality at that point. It took time and a move from minimalist offerings to more well equipped models for the shift in perception to occur.

This is what is being missed by HF in its move to promote Icon at 4 times the cost of USG.
 

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That's a really good point, while I love my Snap-On box, seeing some of the innovative things done by MAC with their boxes really impresses.

IMO, MAC has always been the leader in innovation of professional tool storage, with Snap-On copying/modifying their ideas a couple years later.

If everybody only wanted their box 'just like Snap-On' then MAC and Matco, etc, wouldn't even bother trying to compete, they would just carbon copy Snappy. Which is essentially what an ICON box is, except its an imported piece of **** compared to a S-O box, with realistically zero long term support for the buyer, since HF changes suppliers as often as a prostitute changes clients.

A decade from now, buyers will still have direct replacement parts support from MAC, Matco, Snap-On, and probably Extreme and a couple other main manufacturers.

Harbor Freight, up to this point at least, certainly hasn't instilled that certainty to your average buyer of expensive "pro" tool storage.

They thought they were going to directly compete with Snap-On, MAC, Matco, SK, Cornwell, etc. when in reality they are competing against Lowes, Home Depot and Sears.

I agree with everything you said, except the second paragraph. Mac has some nice boxes with new colours and configurations. New Macsmizer sold locally this week

Nothing inspires confidence in a tool company than offering $12 off coupons on sub $50 jack stands from 4 different Chinese manufacturers and then being part of a safety recall

Oh I totally agree.

What should they do? That's above my pay grade... :dunno:

I will try to answer this. 1st a box has to be cheap in price like around $1000 to $1200 for a 50ish by 24 box. The only reason you are buying a imported box is because of price.

2nd base it on a US General but call it US General Pro or US General HD. . Make it 24" deep and have a full top drawer. Have a lift up latching system. Maybe a couple of different versions one with more deep drawers and one with shallow drawers.. Dont need heavy gauge metal as most will be sold for home or automotive use not HD diesel

3rd Try to improve the image a bit by only having one Chinese manufacturer for a box not 2 or 3 different numbers for a single size with identical features. Other than that there is not much a discount type store can do to compete with a local small business that sells US made boxes

Bottom pictures are imported boxes that are available up here. Slightly higher priced than the US General but different drawer layout
 

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Envision WalMart opening one or two showcases of fine Tiffany jewelry right alongside their current lineup of low cost/low quality jewelry. I seriously doubt they attract any business away from the high end jewelry stores and I seriously doubt their customer base would buy enough of it at Tiffany prices to justify the floor space.

On the other hand, I understand that there are a lot of people that think WWF is real, so........
 

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Here's the difference - Toyota went to GREAT pains to separate Lexus and Toyota. Different dealer networks. Different standards of service quality. Different customer experience.

The problem with HF/Icon is that you get the same customer experience buying a $2000 lower box as you do when buying a set of defective jack stands or a cheap rope.

Yeah, I think that is the same reason why VW failed with the Pheaton and think about how long it took VW to establish Audi as a more premium brand back in the days.
 

cruzer75

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My thought on this is - who ever thought Craftsman Via Sears would have gone away like it did? Yes you can get craftsman from lowes etc but its not the same. So i think any retailer that is "established" is just one bankruptcy away from not being available. That being said the big names are going to be around either second hand or purchased (like craftsman) and made again, but will it be the same thing?

- I am just a DIY guy so no desire to even spend 1200 on a tool box but thats me.

I already have a classic 78 so I’m not in the market right now but it’s getting pretty tough to fit all my stuff in it. My whole thing with the tool boxes is if I was in the market for a big box it wouldn’t be with a brand that just started and the longevity of the line was uncertain. What happens in a year or two after and they discontinued the line up? What about replacement parts and expansion modules? You take one of the most important benefits away. Expansion and guarantee are what sells long term storage solutions. I’ll take a risk on hand tools that are $50-100 all day long but not a $5k+ Storage system. I honestly do want to see the line succeed but they have dropped the ball on tool storage from the get go.
 

unslow1

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Aside from the freebies Harbor Freight passed out to their You Tube influencers, has anyone actually seen an Icon box in use?

I'm sometimes in as many as 20 shops in a single day and I've never seen one outside of a Harbor Freight.
 
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