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Vertical welding cart

Bellaireroad

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Horizontal space is at a premium, so I went vertical with my cart, build the hose hangers inside the cart, they stick out about 1/2 inch. Built a junction box so that all the electric cables tuck in down in the bottom and plug in the back of the box, with one plug only to the wall. Rides on double casters. It is bottom heavy, 1/4 inch steel in the base


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Awesome cart. Much like yourself growth in my garage must be vertical. I have been drawing plans for my 252 and 211 to sit on a vertical rack. Love your ideas and design. Certainly will be stealing you power junction box set-up. 1 power cord makes way more sense. I also noticed that you have remote tanks. My thoughts were to go this route as well. Makes the cart a lot easier to move around. That said are you sharing a bottle for any two of your welders? And if so are you splitting at the tank or on the cart? Both of my machines are mig and I'd like to share the Argon with both of them. I'll also have a bottle of helium for the 252 which will also have a 30A spoolgun attached. Last question, I also planned on using 4 swivel casters instead of the big wheels at the back. There has already been a ton of debate on the pros and cons of each system. But again with limited shop space parallel parking the welding cart should be easier with 4 casters. Have you been pleased with this aspect of your cart design? Great work and many thanks in advance for any insight that you're able to share.

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i love using the vertical height space more my self . here is my combo .

the dirty one on the left is mine after 3-4 years of service . the shiny new one on the right is brand new build a friends wanted after he saw my setup and loved it .

simple bracket on the 216 that picks up factory screw holes . then 4 feet to bolt down the 140c on top . slitter valve of the regulator to feed both welders . then i just did a quick connect block for the grounds to clean up the unit and simplify the setup minus a ground since you dont use both welders at the same time 98% of the time .
 

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Awesome cart. Much like yourself growth in my garage must be vertical. I have been drawing plans for my 252 and 211 to sit on a vertical rack. Love your ideas and design. Certainly will be stealing you power junction box set-up. 1 power cord makes way more sense. I also noticed that you have remote tanks. My thoughts were to go this route as well. Makes the cart a lot easier to move around. That said are you sharing a bottle for any two of your welders? And if so are you splitting at the tank or on the cart? Both of my machines are mig and I'd like to share the Argon with both of them. I'll also have a bottle of helium for the 252 which will also have a 30A spoolgun attached. Last question, I also planned on using 4 swivel casters instead of the big wheels at the back. There has already been a ton of debate on the pros and cons of each system. But again with limited shop space parallel parking the welding cart should be easier with 4 casters. Have you been pleased with this aspect of your cart design? Great work and many thanks in advance for any insight that you're able to share.

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I can’t speak to the debate about big wheels versus little wheels. If you have bottles mounted on the back or you’re moving the cart around a lot, seems like that would make sense. Mine sits next to the bench where I do most of my work. If I was moving it all over the shop this probably wouldn’t be the best design. I lucked into the double wheel casters on eBay. The base of the cart is quarter inch steel, and tapped for fine thread 5/16 bolts to hold the casters on. It looks like it might be top-heavy but it is not, due to the weight at the bottom, double wheel casters, and the casters are offset from the cart.

So I sat back and looked at my current set up, which was a mess, and the two things I needed were horizontal space and cable management. I don’t like the leads and whips hanging out all over the place. And the 220 cords are a PITA, thus the box. Can’t see it in this picture, but there is a space in the bottom of the cart, made with expanded metal, that the 220 cords tuck up into before they are plugged in.
There is an air outlet on the wall, behind where the cart sits, so there will be a whip from it to the plasma.

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The four cable hangers sit up inside the cart. Small flexible whips can wrap around vertically. Bigger, less flexible whips like my Aluma pro light can wrap around all four. So there are some options there.

The bottles are mounted to the wall. They are two argon and one CO2. A gas mixer sits on top to run pulse welding on the 255. I went with a second argon tank on the TIG. It would have been more economical to run a splitter off one argon tank, and I thought about doing that, but wanted to cut down on runs to the LWS.





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i love using the vertical height space more my self . here is my combo .

the dirty one on the left is mine after 3-4 years of service . the shiny new one on the right is brand new build a friends wanted after he saw my setup and loved it .

simple bracket on the 216 that picks up factory screw holes . then 4 feet to bolt down the 140c on top . slitter valve of the regulator to feed both welders . then i just did a quick connect block for the grounds to clean up the unit and simplify the setup minus a ground since you dont use both welders at the same time 98% of the time .



You have very nice set up! Like myself, you designed it to fit your needs. The machine mounts are a great idea. I did something similar on mine.

The 255 has a factory cart that mounts using slots in the lower part of the machine, I stole the mounting idea from it. A uclip holds it down, rivnuts were put in the mounting holes, and a strap cut out of 1 1/2 square tube was welded in to keep the clip from moving

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The dynasty has slots cut in the bottom of it. The second shelf has quarter inch steel strips welded that hold the dynasty in place. In addition the cable hangers have 1/8 inch clearance on either side of the dynasty.

The hypertherm was a little bit trickier. It mounts with two angles in the back, and welded straps on side, to keep it from moving.

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Very cool. I had to go vertical also. still trying to figure out how to make my plasma cutter fit.
 

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