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Mike,

When I bought my JK, it had a broken radiator. Many hours of interweb research and talking to my buddies at the hot rod shop led me to C&R. As soon as take it out of the box it'd obvious how stout it is compared to everything else I looked at. Might be something to keep in mind if you have to change course.

Thanks for the info. I too have researched the ever living **** out of this and to be honest I've had worse results with the most beefed up units. I am at the belief that by bracing and gusseting and trying to make them so rigid that they don't flex is almost ensuring they will crack where the tubes enter the header.

This last one I am trying now is using old tractor technology where they doubled up the header before adding the tank to give the tubes more strength right at the seam. We'll see how it goes.

Also, I'm finding that thicker isn't necessarily better. These things already have a lot of resistance getting air through them and then you add in the A/C condenser and transmission cooler and it becomes a very big pressure drop across the cooling stack which the fan has to make up for.
 
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Man, I would love to see that evacuation system in action. My current cooling system (radiator swap or whatever) EVAC involves buckets & funnels. :D And maybe the occasional extra hose-to-bleeder thing, to burp out air pockets.
But maybe once again Mike has posted something beyond my current up-to-today repertoire, and I would (as always) be glad to learn yet again from the master. :)

Oh, sorry, I got sidelined with the coolant EVAC stuff...what about rubber isolated radiator mounts? Maybe you have already been there, so never mind?

I will see if I can find any pictures of previous projects where I've used the AirLift system. I know I've shown it here somewhere because that is all I use when filling cooling systems.

My radiator is already mounted in rubber isolators as well as I installed a spring mounting system for the upper mounts to allow movement.

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hey mike, on your last picture, you have a bunch of zip ties on your upper radiator hose, is that holding your steam line up? where does it go? thanks

Yes, the zip-ties are just holding the steam line and the overflow/surge line to keep them up nice and tidy to their destinations.

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I stopped off to my buddies shop on the way home from work and charged my A/C system. He’s pretty good about letting me use his machine in exchange for the occasional welding or machining job.

I pulled the system into a vacuum and let it sit for about 20-minutes and it held great so went ahead and charged the system.
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Upon arriving home I cleaned up the shop from the last couple of nights of work and stumbled across a few signs/placards from my old shop and thought I’d hang them.

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Just curious if you evacuated the AC system how do you drive it without charging it first? Won't that burn up the compressor? (Obviously not nut that was my assumption)
 

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WS6, I'm sure Mike will correct me and explain it better but I'll give it a go. The systems I've worked on have a pressure switch in the system that must trigger the clutch in the compressor to turn. If the clutch isn't energized all that spins is the clutch pulley on the external bearings. At atmospheric conditions the switch isn't triggered, only after starting to charge the system will the pressure be high enough to energize the clutch thus allowing the compressor to compress.

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I really like the "quality" sign, Mike!

Thanks Marc, I painted the signs about 20+ years ago while I was painting something in the shop, probably a sled or ATV and had a local guy letter them for me. My tinted one for the street rod was done by Gary Mizar when he did my 1940 Chev coupe. I had forgot I had them until I was in the basement yesterday adding salt to the water softener and I noticed them leaning in the corner. I remember thinking I'd wait until I had the shop organized and then decide where I wanted them.



That's a good one as well David. My dad used to say something similar when we were selling alfalfa on the farm.:beer:
 
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Just curious if you evacuated the AC system how do you drive it without charging it first? Won't that burn up the compressor? (Obviously not nut that was my assumption)

WS6, I'm sure Mike will correct me and explain it better but I'll give it a go. The systems I've worked on have a pressure switch in the system that must trigger the clutch in the compressor to turn. If the clutch isn't energized all that spins is the clutch pulley on the external bearings. At atmospheric conditions the switch isn't triggered, only after starting to charge the system will the pressure be high enough to energize the clutch thus allowing the compressor to compress.

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JB is correct. The internals of the compressor will not turn until the clutch is engaged on the compressor and that will not happen until certain parameters are met, such as activating the A/C system on the dash, it will check to see if the pressure switch in the system is satisfied and then usually the fan will come on if it is electric. Most GM systems monitor the A/C system pressure quite closely and on PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) fans they will ramp up or down following the pressure transducer.

When the system is not activated or there is no pressure in the system the external bearings (pulley) are what are turning which the belt train runs on so the compressor is actually not turning nor damaging anything.

Hope that explains it but JB pretty much nailed it.

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JB is correct. The internals of the compressor will not turn until the clutch is engaged on the compressor and that will not happen until certain parameters are met, such as activating the A/C system on the dash, it will check to see if the pressure switch in the system is satisfied and then usually the fan will come on if it is electric. Most GM systems monitor the A/C system pressure quite closely and on PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) fans they will ramp up or down following the pressure transducer.



When the system is not activated or there is no pressure in the system the external bearings (pulley) are what are turning which the belt train runs on so the compressor is actually not turning nor damaging anything.



Hope that explains it but JB pretty much nailed it.



Thanks for following along guys.
Nice, didn't know that, learned something new.
 
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While checking batteries and fluids in the coach tonight I noticed the rear engine bay door wouldn’t latch on the street side. I instantly noticed my lower latching pawl was missing, do I copied the curb side.

Curb side still attached.
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New one being cut out of some 3/16” mild steel.
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Used the press brake to put a slight jog in it to match the other.
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Installed, adjusted and painted.
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All in all a quick little 15-minute detour from the night’s tasks to be completed.

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Used the press brake to put a slight jog in it to match the other.
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I do not think you could have bent that jog if you still had the angle iron in the press brake. This is one of the reasons I did not buy this type of small brake, that 4 way die adds a lot of flexibility for bends.

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I do not think you could have bent that jog if you still had the angle iron in the press brake. This is one of the reasons I did not buy this type of small brake, that 4 way die adds a lot of flexibility for bends.

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Darn you Mike... now I am going to have to find some of these 4 way dies for my Swag....


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While checking batteries and fluids in the coach tonight I noticed the rear engine bay door wouldn’t latch on the street side. I instantly noticed my lower latching pawl was missing, do I copied the curb side.
I assume the nut came loose & fell off? Nice work on it's replacement, it looks OE from here. :)
 
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Dude! First blood for the press brake?

I do not think you could have bent that jog if you still had the angle iron in the press brake. This is one of the reasons I did not buy this type of small brake, that 4 way die adds a lot of flexibility for bends.

Kevin

Nice offset Mike!!!

Appears to be about a material thickness offset.

Darn you Mike... now I am going to have to find some of these 4 way dies for my Swag....


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Thanks guys. Yep, it worked quite well for the first bend with the new die format. You're correct Pat, about a 3/16" offset, just enough to clear the recess and grab the inside of the rear cap of the coach.

I'm already pleased with my decision now just to find some time to incorporate an adjustment front to rear apparatus.

I assume the nut came loose & fell off? Nice work on it's replacement, it looks OE from here. :)

That is what I am assuming is that the nut came loose and it and the pawl fell off. I just happened to notice it when I noticed that the rear engine cover didn't pull in like it usually does.

Sorry for the late response guys, been off grid for the past week getting some R&R with the wife.

I'll post up a few vacation pics soon.

Thanks for following along everyone.
 
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A few pics from last week’s trip to Torrey, UT/Capitol Reef area.

One of our day trips consisted of a picnic lunch out on Cathedral Valley Drive.
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While eating lunch this little guy scurried up alongside us and posed for a picture.
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Another day we took a highway trip over to Goblin Valley.
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We also took off on a day trip/picnic on the Burr Trail.
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A few pics from last week’s trip to Torrey, UT/Capitol Reef area.

I need to learn how to "Vacation"...lol...



Love this picture. If that Truck could talk.

A few pics from last week’s trip to Torrey, UT/Capitol Reef area.

One of our day trips consisted of a picnic lunch out on Cathedral Valley Drive.
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I need to learn how to "Vacation"...lol...



Love this picture. If that Truck could talk.


Pat, I watched my dad work his life away and by the time he got to retirement his body was spent. I also used to be that way but had an epiphany one day that I was the only one in control on whether I took time to myself or not. When I first opened my speed shop back in the early 90's, I was also still working my full-time/day job and was burning the candle at both ends as I'm sure you know what that's like. I would cancel vacations in order to get quads or sleds repaired and completed for clients thinking they would really appreciate it but ultimately all it did is make me resent them as they really didn't care about me, they just cared about getting their toys back so they could go play. It starting causing ripples between my wife and I in addition to the resentment so one day I said enough is enough and thought if I don't care about my sanity and my free time, no one else will and that was a major turning point in my life. I didn't want to miss out on my family, especially my son's activities because I couldn't break away from working on other people's stuff. My father never got a chance to see any of my games while I was in school nor any of my racing later in life and I will never get a chance to remedy that.

As for the truck in the picture, it seems like each time we see that truck it is a little more under the surface.:lol_hitti
 

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Pat, I watched my dad work his life away and by the time he got to retirement his body was spent. I also used to be that way but had an epiphany one day that I was the only one in control on whether I took time to myself or not. When I first opened my speed shop back in the early 90's, I was also still working my full-time/day job and was burning the candle at both ends as I'm sure you know what that's like. I would cancel vacations in order to get quads or sleds repaired and completed for clients thinking they would really appreciate it but ultimately all it did is make me resent them as they really didn't care about me, they just cared about getting their toys back so they could go play. It starting causing ripples between my wife and I in addition to the resentment so one day I said enough is enough and thought if I don't care about my sanity and my free time, no one else will and that was a major turning point in my life. I didn't want to miss out on my family, especially my son's activities because I couldn't break away from working on other people's stuff. My father never got a chance to see any of my games while I was in school nor any of my racing later in life and I will never get a chance to remedy that.

As for the truck in the picture, it seems like each time we see that truck it is a little more under the surface.:lol_hitti

Mike I 100% agree. There are very few people who will appreciate your extra hustle for them. As long as they get what they want, they don't see the sacrifices on the other end. My goal the next few years is to throttle back and work on the memories for the kids. My dad pulled double duty as a farmer and over-the-road truck driver, so when he took the time to go camping or take me hunting/fishing, I didn't really realize how cherished those memories would be. My dad "retired" 3 times, and was still in a tractor the week up until he passed away. We all need money to live, but you can't take it with you! I'm glad you had that epiphany in your life!:beer:
 
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Mike I 100% agree. There are very few people who will appreciate your extra hustle for them. As long as they get what they want, they don't see the sacrifices on the other end. My goal the next few years is to throttle back and work on the memories for the kids. My dad pulled double duty as a farmer and over-the-road truck driver, so when he took the time to go camping or take me hunting/fishing, I didn't really realize how cherished those memories would be. My dad "retired" 3 times, and was still in a tractor the week up until he passed away. We all need money to live, but you can't take it with you! I'm glad you had that epiphany in your life!:beer:

That is another reason why I couldn't wait to get OFF of the farm Marc. My dad was a dairy farmer as was I until early 20's. I admire the hard work and sacrifices my father and mother made for not only me but all of my siblings. It was my parent's passion but definitely NOT mine.

By the time high school rolled around I was sick and tired of farming and realized that my parents didn't own a farm, the farm owned them and again, I admired and respected their sacrifices for their family but I couldn't get off of the farm fast enough. After high school, I met my wife and was married yet I still continued to work the farm because all of my other siblings were married and done with the farm and I knew my dad couldn't do it on his own. I did that for nearly 4 years until I had to go to him one day and explain that farming was not in my blood and all I wanted to do was spin wrenches. That was one of the hardest conversations I have ever had with my dad but he was very understanding. He ended up selling the cows and leasing out the land to be farmed by a local guy who continued to work the land until my dad passed in early 2000's.

I often still have guilt at times about bailing on him but at the same time I'm glad I followed the career path that I have. Farming is a hard way to make a living and there is no time away from it.
 
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That is a beautiful place, I just may have to go there on my next road trip.

It's one of our favorite National Parks for the shear reason of it being less "touristy" than most other National Parks. I'm assuming because it is more out of the way and not really on your way to somewhere else. It was a bit warmer than usual this year though, but nothing too bad.
 

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Only been to Utah once and can’t wait to go back. Especially if no off-road truck and I can just show the lady that Backroad out of Spanish Fork to the 70. Then over to Moab and Canyonlands.
 
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Only been to Utah once and can’t wait to go back. Especially if no off-road truck and I can just show the lady that Backroad out of Spanish Fork to the 70. Then over to Moab and Canyonlands.

I'm assuming you're talking about Highway 6, Spanish Fork Canyon between I-15 and I-70? That is a pretty drive. Although it actually was closed last week for a day or so due to a fire and over the weekend an Amtrak train hit a huge boulder on the tracks and stranded passengers for about 20 hours.
 

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Pat, I watched my dad work his life away and by the time he got to retirement his body was spent. I also used to be that way but had an epiphany one day that I was the only one in control on whether I took time to myself or not. When I first opened my speed shop back in the early 90's, I was also still working my full-time/day job and was burning the candle at both ends as I'm sure you know what that's like. I would cancel vacations in order to get quads or sleds repaired and completed for clients thinking they would really appreciate it but ultimately all it did is make me resent them as they really didn't care about me, they just cared about getting their toys back so they could go play. It starting causing ripples between my wife and I in addition to the resentment so one day I said enough is enough and thought if I don't care about my sanity and my free time, no one else will and that was a major turning point in my life. I didn't want to miss out on my family, especially my son's activities because I couldn't break away from working on other people's stuff. My father never got a chance to see any of my games while I was in school nor any of my racing later in life and I will never get a chance to remedy that.

As for the truck in the picture, it seems like each time we see that truck it is a little more under the surface.:lol_hitti

I get it Mike and OD...

I am kind of married to this place. I have a specialty niche area of the business that I play in which generates between 5-25% of the sales for the year. There are some days I have nothing and some days where if I had 48 hours in a day I would still be behind. It's a cow I gotta milk for Sheet Metal.

I have people here that can do it but they have to set aside what they have going and turn my stuff which there is no wiggle room to be late. Fast Paced and high demand. Which means if I am out for a day it takes me 2 to catch up. Out for 2 means 4...but that is my choice.

My Customer do get it and they are grateful as it has helped them grow over the years. My main customer went from 60 people to just over 700 in 9 years due mainly to the support they receive from our company and they recognize that. It is a niche model both of us have really grown in and most players can't handle it thus the margins are good for both of us.

There will come a day where if I do retire/cut back my hours we will have to sort out how we will handle that portion of the business.

Recently with the slowdown in the business I have gotten a taste of downtime...as great as it seems there is a catch at least with me. I don't sleep as much. I believe it is because I mentally don't tax myself enough thus the 3 ring circus starts going in my head in the middle of the night. Then I come into the office wound up tighter than a Banjo string with a list of things we need to move forward on in the business...yeah I am that guy that creates work for already busy people...but in the best interest of the customer and the employee.

A few of the latest initiatives are starting to pay off in people happiness here and productivity. When we take that bone and chew on it I sleep at night as I am mentally drained.

In the last 7 years I can say I haven't worked maybe more than a week...because I love what I do.

Need to do some soul searching...

I have traveled to almost every state in the lower 48. Saw all of it from the seat of a Semi or Motorhome only to stop and look down a 1/4 mile two lane and come home to do it all over again. The next trip I'll be stopping to see the sites.

I appreciate the insight Mike!!!
 
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I get it Mike and OD...

I am kind of married to this place. I have a specialty niche area of the business that I play in which generates between 5-25% of the sales for the year. There are some days I have nothing and some days where if I had 48 hours in a day I would still be behind. It's a cow I gotta milk for Sheet Metal.

I have people here that can do it but they have to set aside what they have going and turn my stuff which there is no wiggle room to be late. Fast Paced and high demand. Which means if I am out for a day it takes me 2 to catch up. Out for 2 means 4...but that is my choice.

My Customer do get it and they are grateful as it has helped them grow over the years. My main customer went from 60 people to just over 700 in 9 years due mainly to the support they receive from our company and they recognize that. It is a niche model both of us have really grown in and most players can't handle it thus the margins are good for both of us.

There will come a day where if I do retire/cut back my hours we will have to sort out how we will handle that portion of the business.

Recently with the slowdown in the business I have gotten a taste of downtime...as great as it seems there is a catch at least with me. I don't sleep as much. I believe it is because I mentally don't tax myself enough thus the 3 ring circus starts going in my head in the middle of the night. Then I come into the office wound up tighter than a Banjo string with a list of things we need to move forward on in the business...yeah I am that guy that creates work for already busy people...but in the best interest of the customer and the employee.

A few of the latest initiatives are starting to pay off in people happiness here and productivity. When we take that bone and chew on it I sleep at night as I am mentally drained.

In the last 7 years I can say I haven't worked maybe more than a week...because I love what I do.

Need to do some soul searching...

I have traveled to almost every state in the lower 48. Saw all of it from the seat of a Semi or Motorhome only to stop and look down a 1/4 mile two lane and come home to do it all over again. The next trip I'll be stopping to see the sites.

I appreciate the insight Mike!!!

Pat, the exact reasons that you posted is why I couldn't wait to get away from my parent's farm AND exactly why I never took the next step to take my business full-time.

When I started my side business and still holding my full-time day job I did so with the intent of building a clientele where I could quit my full-time job and transition right into my speed shop full-time. I was almost to the point of pulling the trigger when I had my epiphany and decided I am not the entrepreneur that I had hoped to be because I couldn't be that devoted to my clients and put my family second like so many business owners and farmers must do.

I feel like I had the best of both worlds for so long but now I am getting to the point of wanting to work for others less and less. I am struggling with myself because I don't want to give up my time yet when something comes along that I really want to do or help someone out will I take on a paying side job. Although I've been thinking about small side jobs more and more lately just to throw additional funds at my mortgage and speeding up retirement.:beer:
 

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I'm assuming you're talking about Highway 6, Spanish Fork Canyon between I-15 and I-70? That is a pretty drive. Although it actually was closed last week for a day or so due to a fire and over the weekend an Amtrak train hit a huge boulder on the tracks and stranded passengers for about 20 hours.

We took that way to Moab 8-9 years ago then came home up thru Highway 89 with all the Mormon churches that blew our minds. I know my lady would love to see those.
 

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Seeing those pictures and reading this discussion shows me I need to take the time to do more with my life. I work for a small company that is stingy on the vacation/personal time and I'm almost 40 with a new daughter, maybe it's time to start re-prioritizing things a bit. Seems like the older I get the less happy I am with the job and the stuff outside of work I miss out on.
 
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Seeing those pictures and reading this discussion shows me I need to take the time to do more with my life. I work for a small company that is stingy on the vacation/personal time and I'm almost 40 with a new daughter, maybe it's time to start re-prioritizing things a bit. Seems like the older I get the less happy I am with the job and the stuff outside of work I miss out on.

It's never too late.

I've been approached over the years by a couple other companies but now one of the highest priorities in the compensation package is in fact, vacation days. I currently get 6 weeks a year and I'm finding many companies top out around 3 weeks. That would be hard for me to give up even for more money.

The older I get the more I appreciate and NEED my time away from work to spend with my wife enjoying the life we've worked so hard for. I would encourage you to work on that work/life balance now as it only gets harder the older you get and then you wake up one day and realize that you've worked your life away and didn't stop to smell the roses.
 
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It’s hard to believe that the second week into June and we had a hard freeze last night.

Backing out of the driveway this morning I saw the heavy layer of frost on my rooftops.
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We went from high 90’s last week to only a high of 53 yesterday with a hard freeze warning for last night.

This has been a hell of a year in a lot of ways.
 

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Send me some of that cool weather please! We have been having heat indexes around 100-105 degrees, the humidity is killing me.
 

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I've been approached over the years by a couple other companies but now one of the highest priorities in the compensation package is in fact, vacation days. I currently get 6 weeks a year and I'm finding many companies top out around 3 weeks. That would be hard for me to give up even for more money.

I totally agree Mike! At my old job I had made it up to 4 weeks after 12 years of service. At my current job, after 18 years of service, I now get 3 weeks, and max out at 4 weeks after 20 years. I'd gladly take more vacation over a raise in pay.
 
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Send me some of that cool weather please! We have been having heat indexes around 100-105 degrees, the humidity is killing me.

I'm afraid our cool down is coming to an end here in the next day or two Marc. We're supposed to be back up into the 90's by the end of the week, but at least our humidity is low. I think it was around 20-23% last week. That high humidity is what does me in, I don't know how you do it.:confused:
 
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