Above 1200 Sq/FT From Urban Pie Factory To Mountain Barn
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Azmule71
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Subscribe! Looks like a cool place!
bargainhuntingking
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Makes me miss the Bay Area
y'sguy
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What an envious location and space you have. Looking forward to the things about to happen there. I used to travel for work to SF and vacationed there twice. Had good tickets to the world series but had to return home to finish the TV spots I was working on. I think I dodged a bullet.
My favorite restaurant is the Tadich Grill.
My favorite restaurant is the Tadich Grill.
nadogail
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Reminds me of when I lived in the Fillmore district before I moved to the Pan Handle across from the SP Hospital.
Please keep this thread alive.
Please keep this thread alive.
Since we've traveled back in time, let's borrow the time machine and travel ahead, to roughly mid-August of 2020.
A snapshot rendering of the upstairs, looking from the kitchen island towards thew rear of the building. Is that a vespa on the wall? Why yes, it is Alex. Why? Because I can. Or at least, when I acquire said Vespa, I'll be able to. And because a Moto or vehicle on the wall has been a childhood dream of mine, and I never got the car-shaped bed as a kid. And because I refuse to chop the front end off of a Corvette to fix to the wall, and I feel no remorse about taking a single vespa out of circulation.
We all have our dreams, we all have our fantasies. I've blocked in a lot 2x12s to make this dream come to life.
A snapshot rendering of the upstairs, looking from the kitchen island towards thew rear of the building. Is that a vespa on the wall? Why yes, it is Alex. Why? Because I can. Or at least, when I acquire said Vespa, I'll be able to. And because a Moto or vehicle on the wall has been a childhood dream of mine, and I never got the car-shaped bed as a kid. And because I refuse to chop the front end off of a Corvette to fix to the wall, and I feel no remorse about taking a single vespa out of circulation.
We all have our dreams, we all have our fantasies. I've blocked in a lot 2x12s to make this dream come to life.
Modern Jess
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Duker
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Yep.... have to join the crowd on this one...
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turbowoodworker
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It's great having that history of your building.
August 2019 - September 2019 : demo and concrete.
So, we’re barreling through demo and largely have the building down to the studs, finding rot and char along the way to mitigate and replace.
Upstairs, looking out towards the street. Second story was mostly in fine shape. The floors were a hodgepodge from the patchwork done over the years.
And turned 180 degrees on the second floor looking at the back wall. Use the white post as a reference point. More wonky floors.
Astute followers of the history portion of the thread might remember the fire incident. Here is residual evidence of the fire in 1929.
Once upstairs demo was complete, the foundation work could got under way.
Next up: new slab.
So, we’re barreling through demo and largely have the building down to the studs, finding rot and char along the way to mitigate and replace.
Upstairs, looking out towards the street. Second story was mostly in fine shape. The floors were a hodgepodge from the patchwork done over the years.
And turned 180 degrees on the second floor looking at the back wall. Use the white post as a reference point. More wonky floors.
Astute followers of the history portion of the thread might remember the fire incident. Here is residual evidence of the fire in 1929.
Once upstairs demo was complete, the foundation work could got under way.
Next up: new slab.
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Modern Jess
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Wow, this is way more involved than I expected.
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turbowoodworker
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"There was a peculiar feeling of being right back where I’d started."
Not true, it looks like you are ready for Racedeck!!!
Not true, it looks like you are ready for Racedeck!!!
Lassen Forge
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OK, deal me in!
I lived in the bay area most of my life, as soon as I saw the first picture I was hooked (I mean, it screams "SF")... so many good buildings there, and yours has good bones... My ex and I had a house in far off Sacramento that was built as a cover for a brandy still and wine cellar (in the middle of Prohibition), same plethora of dimensional redwood, and extensive use of the "basement" as production space... always wanted to bring that back, but the marriage dissolving would not allow it to happen.
Anyway, looking forward to the continuning adventure. And if there was ever a better city to have vespi (multiple vespas) in (other than maybe Rome), I have yet to find one.
I lived in the bay area most of my life, as soon as I saw the first picture I was hooked (I mean, it screams "SF")... so many good buildings there, and yours has good bones... My ex and I had a house in far off Sacramento that was built as a cover for a brandy still and wine cellar (in the middle of Prohibition), same plethora of dimensional redwood, and extensive use of the "basement" as production space... always wanted to bring that back, but the marriage dissolving would not allow it to happen.
Anyway, looking forward to the continuning adventure. And if there was ever a better city to have vespi (multiple vespas) in (other than maybe Rome), I have yet to find one.
nadogail
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Thanks for the update.
Walter Sobchak
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Wow, what an interesting and awesome project. I know this building as I used to live in SF.
Even more interesting, I used to work on Olle Lundberg's car (JCW Mini Cooper that once caught on fire while driving!). Nice guy and amazing designer. Small world!
In for the progress...can't even imagine what this costs in SF right now.
Even more interesting, I used to work on Olle Lundberg's car (JCW Mini Cooper that once caught on fire while driving!). Nice guy and amazing designer. Small world!
In for the progress...can't even imagine what this costs in SF right now.
TimTaylor75
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36truck
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This looks fun & a ton of work at the same time. Have fun with it. Following along for the journey.
gnpenning
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To bad that Bronco isn't yours.
Finding the old permit information was awesome. Found out recently from the county the road I live in was built in 1903.
Finding the old permit information was awesome. Found out recently from the county the road I live in was built in 1903.
Farmall450
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I like pie too. 
Metallitubby
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As a career Honda guy, thank you for not taking a perfectly good Honda motorcycle out of circulation for wall-art. I dig your style, and where this project is headed.
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MacTexas
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The first house I bought was built in 1919, the second house I bought was built in 1923. I know all about old houses and the problems they have hidden. I am going to enjoy this thread.
By the way the house I live in now was built in 2006. I got smart in my old age.
By the way the house I live in now was built in 2006. I got smart in my old age.
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Nov - Dec 2019
Loaded in a bunch of joist material to prop the building up.
And over the course of a couple of weeks, some plywood to cover the old floor. And some steel. Steel is good. And chopped out the section of the second story floor which will become an outdoor patio.
And then in the Pie Factory time machine, we come back a month later and the bathroom, stairs, and a few closets are framed in on the ground floor. And two 20’ steel beams going across and a 40’ run the length of the open garage floor plan.
Nov - Dec 2019
Loaded in a bunch of joist material to prop the building up.
And over the course of a couple of weeks, some plywood to cover the old floor. And some steel. Steel is good. And chopped out the section of the second story floor which will become an outdoor patio.
And then in the Pie Factory time machine, we come back a month later and the bathroom, stairs, and a few closets are framed in on the ground floor. And two 20’ steel beams going across and a 40’ run the length of the open garage floor plan.
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y'sguy
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Wow, It's really coming along nicely. Looks to be very straight and true now. I can only imagine the costs and permitting nightmares this must accrue in the San Francisco housing market.
Pressingonward
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Cool old building. I'll follow along 
A Detour: January 2020, when I got a factory space.
I work for a small non-profit. We build voting machines. Or rather, I build voting machines, and everybody else builds software or does sales.
Right around January, we had to scale up production, which meant we needed a factory space.
Do I have the whole building? Of course not. That would be silly. I’ve got access to a single unit alongside 30 or so other tenants, most of them caterers and bakers. Concrete everything, 30’ cielings, giant loading dock and freight elevator. Sign me up.
Loading in some Baltic birch plywood. Did I strictly need plywood for the factory? No. Did I need some for my shop cabinets? Absolutely. Blame @sakurama.
Evening number 1. I hired a friend with a pick up, and went to Home Depot with the corporate credit card. Shelving, workbenches, drillsets and a husky tool kit. I ordered a HF rolling tool cart and called it good. Snap On was not in the budget.
This space 25’ x 80’ x 30’. Just about the same dimensions as my place.
After setting up the wire rack shelving and loading in some of the components.
And after setting up a couple of work benches from McMaster Carr.www.mcmastercarr.com In the event readers don’t know about McMaster, they offer a lovely assortment of stuff you generally need, shipped quickly, from an easy-to-navigate app or website. Not sponsored, just a fan.
And once I had a crew in to help with assembly.
All in all it’s a great space, but it’s not mine. I just have the keys.
I work for a small non-profit. We build voting machines. Or rather, I build voting machines, and everybody else builds software or does sales.
Right around January, we had to scale up production, which meant we needed a factory space.
Do I have the whole building? Of course not. That would be silly. I’ve got access to a single unit alongside 30 or so other tenants, most of them caterers and bakers. Concrete everything, 30’ cielings, giant loading dock and freight elevator. Sign me up.
Loading in some Baltic birch plywood. Did I strictly need plywood for the factory? No. Did I need some for my shop cabinets? Absolutely. Blame @sakurama.
Evening number 1. I hired a friend with a pick up, and went to Home Depot with the corporate credit card. Shelving, workbenches, drillsets and a husky tool kit. I ordered a HF rolling tool cart and called it good. Snap On was not in the budget.
This space 25’ x 80’ x 30’. Just about the same dimensions as my place.
After setting up the wire rack shelving and loading in some of the components.
And after setting up a couple of work benches from McMaster Carr.www.mcmastercarr.com In the event readers don’t know about McMaster, they offer a lovely assortment of stuff you generally need, shipped quickly, from an easy-to-navigate app or website. Not sponsored, just a fan.
And once I had a crew in to help with assembly.
All in all it’s a great space, but it’s not mine. I just have the keys.
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April 2020: Shop cabinet build
And then fast forward to Covid. Spent all of of Jan and Feb building voting machines, and then shipped them off for March 2020 presidential primary. Get back from the election and the US is just starting to experience the effects of Covid.
Looking ahead, the founders (rightfully) anticipate that demand for in-person voting systems is gonna be stalled heading into 2020. So we start building a vote-by-mail system
Are we building any more machines this year? No.
Are we keeping the factory? Yes.
Do I still have a job? Yes.
Do I still have the factory keys? Absolutely.
Remember all that plywood I moved into the factory space?
Chop. Chop. Time to build a bunch of shop cabinets. There are plenty of excellent threads, videos, tutorials here, and credit where credit is due to @sakurama, @lilscorpion, @Nick with the Vdub garage.
I spent an inordinate amount of time obsessing over whether to build in imperial or metric, and the finer points of 5mm shelf pins or 1/4” Shelf pins, domino or pocket screw, glue or not. At the end of the day, it’s a bunch of boxes made out of nice plywood. Even with pin nails and a prayer, they’re plenty strong.
I bit the bullet and went green. None of it is necessary, but, man is it nice.
1. Rip.
2. Dado.
3. Screw. (and in my case domino as well, though not needed, I was just experimenting.)
4. Assemble one base box.
5. Repeat 20-odd times. Then scrub, clean, vacuum and come up with plausible explanations for the bosses.
These will get installed in the shop around August/Sept.
And then fast forward to Covid. Spent all of of Jan and Feb building voting machines, and then shipped them off for March 2020 presidential primary. Get back from the election and the US is just starting to experience the effects of Covid.
Looking ahead, the founders (rightfully) anticipate that demand for in-person voting systems is gonna be stalled heading into 2020. So we start building a vote-by-mail system
Are we building any more machines this year? No.
Are we keeping the factory? Yes.
Do I still have a job? Yes.
Do I still have the factory keys? Absolutely.
Remember all that plywood I moved into the factory space?
Chop. Chop. Time to build a bunch of shop cabinets. There are plenty of excellent threads, videos, tutorials here, and credit where credit is due to @sakurama, @lilscorpion, @Nick with the Vdub garage.
I spent an inordinate amount of time obsessing over whether to build in imperial or metric, and the finer points of 5mm shelf pins or 1/4” Shelf pins, domino or pocket screw, glue or not. At the end of the day, it’s a bunch of boxes made out of nice plywood. Even with pin nails and a prayer, they’re plenty strong.
I bit the bullet and went green. None of it is necessary, but, man is it nice.
1. Rip.
2. Dado.
3. Screw. (and in my case domino as well, though not needed, I was just experimenting.)
4. Assemble one base box.
5. Repeat 20-odd times. Then scrub, clean, vacuum and come up with plausible explanations for the bosses.
These will get installed in the shop around August/Sept.
ODIS
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Great build thread!
Was a Manufacturer’s Rep. for a company out of Canton, Ohio that at one point, built and sold voting machines. Did not have these machines in my line of products to sell. My line was banking equipment for operation centers, branches, etc. ATM’s, software, vaults, safes, other physical and electronic security. Hope your venture into voting machines is greatly successful.
Was a Manufacturer’s Rep. for a company out of Canton, Ohio that at one point, built and sold voting machines. Did not have these machines in my line of products to sell. My line was banking equipment for operation centers, branches, etc. ATM’s, software, vaults, safes, other physical and electronic security. Hope your venture into voting machines is greatly successful.
Modern Jess
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Welcome to the Cult of the Green Kool-Aid!
kruizer66
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Possible topics, which I’ll cover at different points:
-demo and concrete work
-discoveries behind the Sheetrock
-reframing
- future plans
- wood furniture projects to come
- recent furniture projects that will go in to the space
Yes, yes....all of it please, in whichever order you like! Try to include the great aroma of the pie factory too...
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-demo and concrete work
-discoveries behind the Sheetrock
-reframing
- future plans
- wood furniture projects to come
- recent furniture projects that will go in to the space
Yes, yes....all of it please, in whichever order you like! Try to include the great aroma of the pie factory too...
Sent from my iPad using The Garage Journal mobile app
rixtrix1
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Coming along very nicely. Those steel beams look much better; the old wood appeared to have a lot of sag to it. I hope that after you finish the outside wall and mudsill repairs your neighbor is accountable and respects your property! What's the ceiling height in the garage now?
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Terranova
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Yeah, you just became King of the “you ****” club. Rocketing into the top ten with a bullet, here’s Jake28 with “Pie factory”
Clear span in the shop is just under 10’ since I lost a bit of height with the steel beams soon to be wrapped in ply and sheetrock.
Currently I don’t have plans for a car lift, except maybe a scissor lift, but I poured the slab thick enough that if I change my mind, I can out one just about anywhere in the room.
XJSuperman
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Im in. Very cool space you have. Everybody enjoys a restoration.
El Matador
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Dude you are literally living my dream. Subbed
Old Man Roger
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Friend of mine had a nice auto repair shop, with an efficiency upstairs. The local code enforcement said he couldn't live in the efficiency. I have to assume one of his neighboring business owners ratted him out.