The VISES of Garage Journal
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dutchgray
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Yes a really old 3 piece one, not easy to find in even a common size and certainly very rare in a large size, I am not aware of others that big here, you see 6" ones occasionally.
Its in very good order considering its age, which could be all the way back to when Parkinson's started making them.
Over a hundred pounds heavier than the 2 piece 7 1/2" quick release that I have, that was their biggest in the later period.
Yes a really old 3 piece one, not easy to find in even a common size and certainly very rare in a large size, I am not aware of others that big here, you see 6" ones occasionally.
Its in very good order considering its age, which could be all the way back to when Parkinson's started making them.
Over a hundred pounds heavier than the 2 piece 7 1/2" quick release that I have, that was their biggest in the later period.
WittHay
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Might try Canadian Freightways (CF Express) part of Trans Force. They had reasonable rates shipping tractor motors and rims from Alberta to their Burnaby terminal.
There are about 10 other Trans Force trucking companies operating out of that terminal. Smaller courier type company gets it from your place to the terminal and another company gets it to the states
dannyr
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Agree - 3 main castings makes it first generation 'Perfect' ie QR, (1880s?) - to me looks like much of the weight is in the extra thick base casting.
From my own small collection of Parkys I believe that the older vises/vices were labelled "Parkinson's" and "vice" whereas later they were "Parkinsons' " and "vise" - possibly reflecting the fact that old man Joseph Parkinson's sons had formally joined the board in about mid 1880s (?) - can you see the markings well enough?.
Like yours, my largest has the 3 castings with the bent bolt holding them together - I'll have to go and check it out where it lies under cover while I look for a decent stand for it ( 7 1/2" jaws, but they are slightly oversized replacements) - the lower part doesn't have quite the same look from memory.
Really great find VISE, - hope it is as good as it should be when it arrives. By size it should be a No 10?? (on no known lists) - what say you, Gray from Devon?
dutchgray
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Got this crusty Paramo No1 with no jaw plates, all 4 screws are broken off so will need some work to drill them out, off the scrap heap at work so the only cost was walking over and picking it up.
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Thanks for the kind words about the big Parkinsons vise, guys. Would be interested in any other info you have on it. Here is a picture I found that is said to be from a Paris trade show in 1889. That could be my vise on the right...
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Thanks for the kind words about the big Parkinsons vise, guys. Would be interested in any other info you have on it. Here is a picture I found that is said to be from a Paris trade show in 1889. That could be my vise on the right...
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I’ve got this salesman sample Parkinson’s on the way from the uk. Your large model is stunning and a total beast.
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dannyr
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Hey Rusty and Vise you're taking our most significant Parkys.
Well, you've got good taste and they'll be in good hands.
I notice the Paris show sign says J Parkinson, not P... and sons.
Well, you've got good taste and they'll be in good hands.
I notice the Paris show sign says J Parkinson, not P... and sons.
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dutchgray
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Maybe before he was blessed with children
Much thanks!
Or before the children grew up and became part of the business. Note it also says Machine maker, the vices were originally secondary to machinery and they manufactured milling machines pretty much until the end of the business, in the 80's
Fierljeppen
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1903 is the earliest reference to J. Parkinson & Son I could find. I've also attached an illustrated patent of Joseph Parkinson's "Perfect Vise". My limited search strongly indicated Joseph Parkinson was the real deal with regard to machine design and precision machine building.
A truly world-class collectors vise. I look forward to seeing the photos of it when it arrives.
A truly world-class collectors vise. I look forward to seeing the photos of it when it arrives.
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Everybody loves 00 vises, right?
Saw this vise in a group of 5 in low resolution and gambled that it must be some HS series, the shape of the jaws and all.
Arrived the other day and it turns out it was, stamped HS 00 inside with 50 mm / 2" jaws. Next bigger size is HS 1/2 at 70 mm jaw width before the HS 1 at 80 mm (which was on my family photo). The sizes < HS1 use a partially exposed lead screw and no steel bars, even though the casting is thicker at the right spots as if bolt holes were supposed to be there. So they look like their bigger siblings but are a simpler design.
Saw this vise in a group of 5 in low resolution and gambled that it must be some HS series, the shape of the jaws and all.
Arrived the other day and it turns out it was, stamped HS 00 inside with 50 mm / 2" jaws. Next bigger size is HS 1/2 at 70 mm jaw width before the HS 1 at 80 mm (which was on my family photo). The sizes < HS1 use a partially exposed lead screw and no steel bars, even though the casting is thicker at the right spots as if bolt holes were supposed to be there. So they look like their bigger siblings but are a simpler design.
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Oh btw, I recently got asked to identify a very strange vise, supposedly european, but I had never seen one like that, so I couldn't help. Some days later I stumble upon this post here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CA8jXZCjiEv/ which shows a similar vise with a nice paintjob and a plate with name and a date. Turns out there was another Mr. Lewis different than the well known Mr. Lewis. He has two patents, US65097A and the correct US89671A with the date matching the plate. Dunno if this is common knowledge or not, thought I would share.
sgs236
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I like to use uship.com for freight items. Most of the times, they are cheaper than going directly to YRC, FedEx Freight, UPS freight, etc.
dannyr
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The insta photo is interesting - how does the vise fit a bench/ - looks like there should be a base with a slide.
I have a 00 or 0 size vise with standard 3 casting design and a brass plate like that shown - "Lewis Anglo" --- this is Samuel Lewis of the Anglo Works in Dudley on the edge of Birmingham UK (large factory established about 1750 - made nails then many things including blacksmiths' tools, anvils and vices).
I'm not sure whether they made the fairly common late 1800s/early 1900s 3 casting English vises sold in many catalogues or did they add their label to vices made in Bradford or? - if they made these in house then they were certainly a major vise manufacturer. But most of this type of vice were not marked with a maker.
page 4000 wow.
I asked the guy if there are any bolt holes. The pictures I saw don't show it.
Also this thread mentions this Mr. Lewis:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7129626&postcount=13
Also has a direct link to the patent and the patent drawing looks more or less like the vise here, so no additional base.
Also this thread mentions this Mr. Lewis:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7129626&postcount=13
Also has a direct link to the patent and the patent drawing looks more or less like the vise here, so no additional base.
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dannyr
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Thanks - maybe not the same Lewis, but strange they both use a rivetted brass nameplate.
Would be useful to have a slide-out vice - to clear the bench top - now need to fid a bench with unusual built-in rails.
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Old Radar
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1st post on page 4001 is where it is at
Unless you set your preferences to 100 posts per page. Then you're just in the middle of page 800.
So here is the answer
He apparently would also part with it for good money. Painted it blue, though
dannyr
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I see - the bolts and slot sound like the fixing used for the big benchtop wooden carvers vise as made by Forge Royale France or Tiranti London -- oak and brass - for some reason called a "Skopas Chops" - a neat vice for that use. Like a holdfast can have different holes in the bench.
I know yoke pipe vises aren’t as desirable but I have the opportunity to pick up a monster 81lb Reed No.65 (up to 8” capacity) for $75.
Is it worth $75? More? Less? (I see a brand new Reed No. 65 which are still produced costs $1,500!!!)
Is it worth $75? More? Less? (I see a brand new Reed No. 65 which are still produced costs $1,500!!!)
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dutchgray
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If you have the need for an 8" pipe vise than the $75 is a bargain, but you'll never get rich selling it on.
Not particularly no, I have a couple smaller ones Incase I need them, but can’t say I have the need for one that big... just haven’t come across one this big before and wasn’t sure if I should go after it.
va.grouseman
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Finally finished my quarantine projects for me, now to start the Madam's list.
A good grease rack just ain't much count without a good vise in close proximity.---Put the Autopts' 326 together today and it is sweet.---Turns with one finger, spins open and shut with one finger.---When I want to use it, all I have to do is give it the finger.---And I just love the smell of Red Grease in the morning.
Notice those pretty rainbow colored, case hardened jaws.---A Man from Colorado made those and they sure complete the unit.---Thanks KMS.
A good grease rack just ain't much count without a good vise in close proximity.---Put the Autopts' 326 together today and it is sweet.---Turns with one finger, spins open and shut with one finger.---When I want to use it, all I have to do is give it the finger.---And I just love the smell of Red Grease in the morning.
Notice those pretty rainbow colored, case hardened jaws.---A Man from Colorado made those and they sure complete the unit.---Thanks KMS.
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wrenchguy
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Badass! Along with white oaks?
KMScott
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Great job va on the stand and what a awesome vise. I remember making those jaws back in 2014 for Nick. Here is an update on vise jaws. My shop has sold to a local business (50 miles from me in Wheatridge CO) and they hired a woman named Mary to build jaws. I have been going down everyday and training the new machinist, miss being involved with these discussions on this mega vise thread. In a couple weeks maybe a month the jaws will be flowing out across the country again. The RI 574 jaws are first to be made and she will make them tomorrow as her first jaws. So many have requested the 574's. I am happy someone will keep these vise parts going. I will be involved for how ever long it takes to train her to build over 200 different vise products. I finally have a apprentice to train.
Shiftless
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KMS:
I’m sure it feels good to have an apprentice to train in the fine art of vise part fabrication. Count me among the many who appreciate having a source for needed pieces. Thanks for working with her to help assure continuation of your remarkable legacy.
BTW, thanks again for sending those custom 3/4 - 10 threaded hold downs you made for my Reed 3CA
I’m sure it feels good to have an apprentice to train in the fine art of vise part fabrication. Count me among the many who appreciate having a source for needed pieces. Thanks for working with her to help assure continuation of your remarkable legacy.
BTW, thanks again for sending those custom 3/4 - 10 threaded hold downs you made for my Reed 3CA
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KMScott
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Shift, I made those years ago and your vise is the only one I heard of that accepted a 3/4:10 threaded lock. So happy that you can use them, think I have another set too.
Outlawmws
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"The Man from Colorado!" - Sounds like a book. or a western!
Remember the days of the Golden Hoard?
Remember the days of the Golden Hoard?
KMScott
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I remember, just packed 35 vises from that hoard in my storage unit along with another 70 vises saved for my move to Beaufort South Carolina when my Dome house sells. Here is the first truck load from the Golden pile.
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va.grouseman
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Kevin, I had to go take 2 DOANS after just looking at that truck load.
Shiftless
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In honor of these pages hitting 80,000 postings, I submit an updated photo tour of one corner of my vise cave.
The tall skinny pic is of a corner shelf with bullets 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, and 5. The 6 inch and bigger bullets exceed my self imposed 100 pound weight limit. I sold off a few heavier Reeds (4C and a 406) after I imposed my limit. That’s a C1 on the top shelf next to the Laphroaig bottle. (In the pic for scale purposes only)
I know a few of you are really digging the **** carpeting. It was on the floor when we bought the house almost 40 years ago.
I built the shelving, wired up the floodlights (I need a few more), and hung the aluminum mini blinds.
The room is a walk out basement with a door to the garage and a door to the back yard where I had a 10x10 slab poured that serves as an outdoor workshop.
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The tall skinny pic is of a corner shelf with bullets 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, and 5. The 6 inch and bigger bullets exceed my self imposed 100 pound weight limit. I sold off a few heavier Reeds (4C and a 406) after I imposed my limit. That’s a C1 on the top shelf next to the Laphroaig bottle. (In the pic for scale purposes only)
I know a few of you are really digging the **** carpeting. It was on the floor when we bought the house almost 40 years ago.
I built the shelving, wired up the floodlights (I need a few more), and hung the aluminum mini blinds.
The room is a walk out basement with a door to the garage and a door to the back yard where I had a 10x10 slab poured that serves as an outdoor workshop.
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In honor of these pages hitting 80,000 postings, I submit an updated photo tour of one corner of my vise cave.
The tall skinny pic is of a corner shelf with bullets 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, and 5. The 6 inch and bigger bullets exceed my self imposed 100 pound weight limit. I sold off a few heavier Reeds (4C and a 406) after I imposed my limit. That’s a C1 on the top shelf next to the Laphroaig bottle. (In the pic for scale purposes only)
I know a few of you are really digging the **** carpeting. It was on the floor when we bought the house almost 40 years ago.
I built the shelving, wired up the floodlights (I need a few more), and hung the aluminum mini blinds.
The room is a walk out basement with a door to the garage and a door to the back yard where I had a 10x10 slab poured that serves as an outdoor workshop.
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I love all of that. The Laphroaig Easter Egg is my favorite made me laugh
VA - That 326 looks perfect! Love the stand and it would be hard to find a nicer vise. Great Set up!
KMS - Congrats again on the sale of the business! We all look forward to the grand re-opening!
Shift - That's a fantastic way to display a collection (or part thereof). The **** carpet will come in handy if any of those vises slips from its spot.
KMS - Congrats again on the sale of the business! We all look forward to the grand re-opening!
Shift - That's a fantastic way to display a collection (or part thereof). The **** carpet will come in handy if any of those vises slips from its spot.