Got my building spray foamed - Full details and pricing

[Marctrees]

At TX/LA border 90 miles south of Shreveport - yesterday I finally got my foam sprayed - - 38x35x10 4/12 all Open cell - 7" +under roof, 5" + walls and gable ends.

Sprayed directly on typical new polebarn interior, straight to the steel and girts/ purlins.

That ends up approx 2900 sq ft total area roughly math @ 6" thick average.

So, roughly $1.45 per sq ft @ 6" thick.... so approx 24 cents per "Board ft"

They were not stingy w the foam, and VERY skilled sprayer and pro crew of 3 guys total.

Mature family biz been doing this for years, the Son comes in morning w the 3 guy crew to review everything and get them going.

2 overhead doors, one man door, 6 2x2' openings for fans, wall AC units, and intake vents.

Started spraying at 9 am, all cleaned up and down the road at 4 pm.

Amazing beautiful job... I did make clear I want it to look good, NEVER EVER seen OC sprayed as uniformly as this.

The sprayer, obviously very experienced, REALLY knew how to handle the gun and his material.

Very professional poly masking of everything.

NO ONE could have cleaned up any better.

Could not be any happier w the company.

VERY communicative and organized Son sales rep for the biz, had total patience to give me alternate option prices in the planning stages.

O, I got 5 bids from apparently historied contractors working this area - These guys I chose were the LOWEST bid of 5 competitors...I'm not gonna quote exactly what they charged out of respect for them cause it should have been more ( I think being a fussy observing on site customer I got a steal what with all the extra fill hence some scraping trimming needed by them)

But, to give you guys an idea of price I will say clearly under $4,500 out the door.

Glad to refer them to GJ members, they work roughly ballpark 100 miles radius of
Lufkin, TX.

Hoping to add some photos here next few days, and glad to show the work in person.

Marc

 

[Earp69]

pictures please

 

[Voi]

That ends up approx 2900 sq ft total area roughly math @ 6" thick average.

So, roughly $1.45 per sq ft @ 6" thick.... so approx 24 cents per "Board ft"

I haven't priced open cell in years but I think that's a great price. Congrats.

Do you have a build thread?

 

[Marctrees]

no, I talk alot but not a big photo taker... no build thread.. but I do have a Pole barn builder and now a foam insulator I can very highly recommend in the 100 mile rough radius of Lufkin, TX.

Marc

 

[rburke65]

Should give you a big sense of accomplishment.

 

[Marctrees]

Ya, but I just sat there on my diabetic **** pointing at details.

NO matter WHO does your work, IF you are educated and know how it needs to be done or end up it is good to be there to oversee it.

Marc

 

[karoc]

Good write up,lots information

 

[Kaizen]

Ya, but I just sat there on my diabetic **** pointing at details.

NO matter WHO does your work, IF you are educated and know how it needs to be done or end up it is good to be there to oversee it.

Marc

100 percent agree. Everyone should know how to do something even if they never lift a finger AND is there to manage the job.

You will be sooooo much more comfortable now.

 

[bigdav160]

When is the A/C going in?

 

[bradpac]

Happy you got it done. One day I will have a shop and it will be foamed. maybe by then your guys will move closer to Austin so I can use them.

 

[PCMusicGuy]

Great feedback. Sounds like a great crew and a great price. So why open cell instead of closed cell? Your decision or theirs?

 

[karoc]

Just about everyone on GJ has stated that they can tell a world difference before and after.
Wonder why there's no kind of government refund like there is or use to be with solar panels.

 

[66Caprice]

Just about everyone on GJ has stated that they can tell a world difference before and after.
Wonder why there's no kind of government refund like there is or use to be with solar panels.

There usually is. But it is tied to your local power company to save energy and that usually means you are using electricity for your heat source.

 

[nadogail]

Thanks for sharing.

 

[North Dakota]

Pics or it didn't happen

 

[Marctrees]

Great feedback. Sounds like a great crew and a great price. So why open cell instead of closed cell? Your decision or theirs?

After lots of reading I decided that either open or closed is fine, and seeing as how I did not need extra durability cause I was covering my walls and as OC is cheaper per R, so I went w all OC.


And now that I have it I see it does not even NEED to be covered unless one is running like a Ninja Star Throwing Academy.

IMHO, YMMV.


Marc

 

[Marctrees]

bigday - Two 25k btu Whirlpool "Window" AC's on site, and going in soon.

Marc

 

[Marctrees]

 

[buzzworth]

And a heavy duty dehumidifier? I can keep my garage at a higher temp if I keep the humidity at 60 %.

 

[Marctrees]

I guess we'll see what the AC units do, and go from there re if we'd benefit from a dehumid.

Marc

 

[472scout]

Congratulations. I'm envious. Spray foam is great. I would gladly pay a few thousand extra to have every nook and granny blocked and insulated. Out of curiosity I just looked up R19 post frame roll batts on Menards and your 2900 sq ft would cost $2328 before tax. That's just the batts without installation. With all the air leaks I can't imagine that R19 batts are even close to what you have.

 

[driftpin]

Its use? Looks great.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Looking good. Id agree with y, true professionals, atleast it looks like it.

 

[dfiler2]

Nice job and it will make climate control so much easier.

 

[Marctrees]

Its use? Looks great.

Mostly wood w some vintage old arn machines, some steel welding fab hobbyist work, and ocassional Pine caskets.

Marc

 

[Dustball]

After lots of reading I decided that either open or closed is fine, and seeing as how I did not need extra durability cause I was covering my walls and as OC is cheaper per R, so I went w all OC.


And now that I have it I see it does not even NEED to be covered unless one is running like a Ninja Star Throwing Academy.

IMHO, YMMV.


Marc

It may be flammable so it may need to be covered.

 

[SALIV8]

Very nice!!

 

[kaymccampbell]

Mostly wood w some vintage old arn machines, some steel welding fab hobbyist work, and ocassional Pine caskets.

Marc

Very nice. Are you going to line it with tin, or x-rated drywall?

 

[Marctrees]

Walls to 8' - 1/2" ply.

Open otherwise.

Marc

 

[pmiranda]

Ya, but I just sat there on my diabetic **** pointing at details.
No matter WHO does your work, IF you are educated and know how it needs to be done or end up it is good to be there to oversee it.

What details were you worried about? I imagine mostly knowing where you DON'T want the foam?

 

[Marctrees]

p - I had an odd situation w pre installed nailer blocks for after foam future horizontal furring strips for my future 1/2 ply.

So, I had a tight dimensional window between underfilled w no foam trimming needed, and over overfilling to fill as much as possible behind the future fur strips.

So, because OC is still kinda wild in expansion compared to CC even when applied by a Pro,
there is a balance to strike between filling as full as possible and reducing waste of overfill.

Hard to explain - Also, I was watching for them to spray end result thickness in multiple multiple lifts which they did do extremely properly.

Look at my ceiling roof photos - See how the top chord 2x6 "witnesses" the fill depth?

Yes, and there was some places I did NOT want foam...

VERY experienced sprayer guy, I think "Fernando"

Again, VERY good experience w sales rep AND crew.

But, even that said, it was even better end result cause I was there.

I got a more expensive job than I paid for.. the company SHOULD have "Add" upcharged me,they did NOT in my case...and NOT due to sloppy billing but due to desire for happy customer... But SHOULD have... they DID use clearly by weight more resin than originally agreed, and this just adds to their attitude for a well done service to customer.

If you are even close to their service area, get their quote and hire them with total confidence.

And again, I have "no skin in this game" besides what they did on my job, hence want to help them if I can.

Marc

 

[Marctrees]

kay - Re: fire protection issues...

I will be doing mostly woodworking in this building, and some a little bit welding and grinding but mostly under the shed roof outside the building.

I only will be covering w 1/2 ply to 8' height, and silicone caulking w baseboard at bottom against slab.

When I take a scrap chunk of this stuff and blast it for like half a minute w a propane torch, it barely burns, and stops supporting flame within a few seconds after torch is removed.

A guy can take an angle grinder and shoot heavy stream against this foam and it does nothing basically.

Kindalike the infant pajamas "non flammable" change whenever like 60 yrs ago.

So, I feel I am OK.

Most current contractors I have talked to say by far most multimedia shops leave it all open.

There MAY be an insurance caveat in some areas.


I am pretty sure in understanding the currently installed foams are way more fire resistant than years ago.... and hesitantly say that code is lagging otherwise is based on years previous foams, not current.

I have NO real life practical fire worries, other than possible insurance issues based on old school foams.

Marc

 

[kaymccampbell]

kay - Re: fire protection issues...

I will be doing mostly woodworking in this building, and some a little bit welding and grinding but mostly under the shed roof outside the building.

I only will be covering w 1/2 ply to 8' height, and silicone caulking w baseboard at bottom against slab.

When I take a scrap chunk of this stuff and blast it for like half a minute w a propane torch, it barely burns, and stops supporting flame within a few seconds after torch is removed.

A guy can take an angle grinder and shoot heavy stream against this foam and it does nothing basically.

Kindalike the infant pajamas "non flammable" change whenever like 60 yrs ago.

So, I feel I am OK.

Most current contractors I have talked to say by far most multimedia shops leave it all open.

There MAY be an insurance caveat in some areas.


I am pretty sure in understanding the currently installed foams are way more fire resistant than years ago.... and hesitantly say that code is lagging otherwise is based on years previous foams, not current.

I have NO real life practical fire worries, other than possible insurance issues based on old school foams.

Marc

Just remember that the lovely little white hot balls of MIG spatter can keep a fire going a long time. As can OA and plasma cutting spatter. The plywood caulked to the floor makes me happy. The open top of the wall cavity, not so much. Mind you, I have no skin in this game, so do as you will. My own shop has concrete board baseboard caulked to the slab, and then the rest is lined with x-rated drywall. But I have a paranoia born of experience with lighting things on fire with welding operations.

 

[Marctrees]

Actually, we are totally capping/ sealing at the 8' level.

Absolutely totally closing the top up.

The insul foam is approx 95% average the thickness behind the Ply.

And again, the bottom will be fully RTV silicone sealed.

Marc

 

[bradpac]

Looking at those photos, those guys knew what they were doing. Looks like nice application. With the AC system you will be real happy working in that shop.