Tiled shower.

[Reit38]

So we have tiled our main bath/shower stall ourself, we are wanting to do our secondary shower in our basement. Right now it has flimsy plastic/fiberglasss board on walls and ceiling over top of cinder block. (For the walls). This bathroom is in the center of the house, all interior walls.

my question is wou d i be able to apply Redguard right to the cinder block walls and tile over that or should i still attatch backerboard.

Second question is would i need a different tile for the ceiling since they will be hanging upside down

Final question is i would like to use a shower pan and a bench seat. Can the pans be cut? My drain is 21in from 2 walls, if i add a seat that would effect where the pan drain is compared to my current. I believe they just tiled the concrete floor. House was built in the 80s

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[Bretny]

I would use backer board even over the concrete block. It's going to be a real pain to remove tile directly on the block if you ever get any cracks. You will find this out when you try to remove the tile off the floor.

 

[rcbk00]

My approach when working with block walls is to glue and tapcon pressure treated boards to the block and then hang 1/2" Hardie backer. Clean/vacuum the block well and use a good glue (I use PL polyurethane). A standard 5/4x6 pressure treated deck board can be ripped into three "studs" and gives you plenty of meat for the Hardie backer screws. As for the ceiling, personally, I'm not a fan of tiled ceilings. If you are going to do it though, some guys will tile a piece of plywood or backer board flat on a workbench and then install it after the tile has set. You can hide the installation screws in the spaces between tiles or leave out a few tiles where the screws are going to be. Once the tiled ceiling panel is screwed in place, tile the walls. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

 

[rcbk00]

I forgot to mention- I'm not a fan of built in shower benches. Unless they're done meticulously, they tend to become water and mold traps. They can be done correctly, it's just that a lot of them aren't, even when done by "professionals." I hope I don't sound too negative- I've just seen a bunch of poorly done built in benches/nooks/etc. I look at a built in shower bench the same way as I look at a skylight. Do you absolutely need to have a giant hole cut in your roof? Can you live without it? If not, then make absolutely sure you do all the flashing details right or your roof is going to leak.

 

[Toolfool]

I've tiled over basement block walls. I chose to do a skim coat of thinset to fill the block pores and create a smooth surface for the Redguard. Built a bench out of concrete block and concrete, skimmed as well. Redguarded the entire thing. One was my brother's house in Pittsburgh, 20+ years ago. Still perfect.

 

[Reit38]

I should have included that the reason we were doing the ceiling is because the shower sits below our ductwork which leaves us with only 78in from concrete to the bottom of the duct

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[yeldogt]

I forgot to mention- I'm not a fan of built in shower benches. Unless they're done meticulously, they tend to become water and mold traps. They can be done correctly, it's just that a lot of them aren't, even when done by "professionals." I hope I don't sound too negative- I've just seen a bunch of poorly done built in benches/nooks/etc. I look at a built in shower bench the same way as I look at a skylight. Do you absolutely need to have a giant hole cut in your roof? Can you live without it? If not, then make absolutely sure you do all the flashing details right or your roof is going to leak.

I second the seats .... simple big slabs work best. The enclosed front porch ... sounds like a goo idea .... becomes a junk holder.

While I like slabs -- they suffer as all types ... they are cold. I tried heating one .. but it was marginal and expensive.

 

[Reit38]

This is what were currently working with.the black line on the block wall on the left is where the shower wall currently ends

Current size is 40.5 wide 36 deep







I was thinking of putting seat on far wall and bringing pan out to a total of 60 deep


My main concern right now is what to do about a ceiling

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[The Cobbler]

ceiling can be tiled too. large tile may need some bracing till the glue sets

 

[nadogail]

We recently had a shower replaced with acrylic panels made by a local company. If anyone in the San Diego area sends me a private message I will be happy to discuss that project with you.

 

[LS6 Tommy]

We recently had a shower replaced with acrylic panels made by a local company. If anyone in the San Diego area sends me a private message I will be happy to discuss that project with you.

When we first got married we quickly found we needed to redo our tub/shower, but couldn't afford to gut and redo it. We had Bath Fitter measure and mold a tub/shower that fits over the original tub and tiled walls. One piece walls, one piece tub, only one seam to seal. Originally it was supposed to be a short term fix, but life got in the way and it's been there for twenty years. It's a good product, but I will say maintenance can be a slight issue. Many regular bathroom cleaners aren't "safe" for acrylic.

Tommy