Tire mounting lube?
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Azzkker
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Dawn will cause corrosion on the bead surface over time. I use hunter white past for runflats and Xtra seal liquid tire lube for everything else.
Hand cleaner works for me, and tight fitting rubber bushings too.
Something like this...
https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/original-formula-smooth-hand-cleaner/A-p8471112e
Something like this...
https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/original-formula-smooth-hand-cleaner/A-p8471112e
sberry
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Some 50/50 anti freeze, 85%, vegetable oil and a shot of car wash soap. Put it in a coffee can with a paint brush to store.
Wrench97
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Usually Ru-Glyde
sberry
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Considering the cost of the freeze and the oil the Ru is not bad.
alcorelli
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Ru glyde
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Old Man Roger
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I always used straight dish soap on my motorcycle tires. Never noticed any corrosion issues, but most of my rims were alloy.
joe_padavano
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X3 for Ru-Glyde
Oh god, runflats... I recently found out I lack the skill/equipment to change one of those.
Thanks guys, put an order in for some Ru Glyde and a brush
DFB
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RuGlyde
gnpenning
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Ru glyde or Murphy's
Mr_fixit
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I use tire lube
seber
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A lot of farmers have always used dish soap. If you want to see what that does to wheels, go to a tractor salvage yard and take a look. Hard to believe that 1/4" of steel could rust through while everything around it still has paint.
Radio Flyer
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What's the black lube that the truck tire shops use?
We used to call it "gorilla snot"
It would fling all over the rigs when driving back from the tire shop.
We used to call it "gorilla snot"
It would fling all over the rigs when driving back from the tire shop.
Wyoming09
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Boy this takes me back. First job ever was in a gas station back when you didn't pump your own gas. Almost 50 years ago. One of the things I do remember about mounting tires was using ReGlyde.
Old Man Roger
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The stuff we used when I changed tires for a living was clear, but would make a black mess if you used too much. Road dirt and old rubber maybe?
Ike Carlson
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I have used dish soap as well as a thin layer of grease. The grease seemed to work better because it didn't dry out as fast.
The corrosion on tractor rims was from the liquid ballast, not tire lube.
The corrosion on tractor rims was from the liquid ballast, not tire lube.
seber
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In some cases yes but when you see a rim with just the lip destroyed, that is not ballast.
matt_i
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RU.
THe dish soap can get re-slick-ened in wet conditions and spin a tractor tire on the rim if there is enough torque being used. Which snips the valve stem off the innertube....
THe dish soap can get re-slick-ened in wet conditions and spin a tractor tire on the rim if there is enough torque being used. Which snips the valve stem off the innertube....
theoldwizard1
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Any dish soap mixed with water will work. Don't be stingy wit it !
A bucket of this will last you a lifetime !
Bonus ! Murphy's Tire and Tube Mounting Compound will also help seal beads ! You can't do this with dish soap or Ru-Glyde.
How to Seat a Bead with Murphy's Soap for Tires by All Tire Supply
A bucket of this will last you a lifetime !
Bonus ! Murphy's Tire and Tube Mounting Compound will also help seal beads ! You can't do this with dish soap or Ru-Glyde.
How to Seat a Bead with Murphy's Soap for Tires by All Tire Supply
alcorelli
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Is Murphy's the stuff that smells like pumpkins?Any dish soap mixed with water will work. Don't be stingy wit it !
A bucket of this will last you a lifetime !
Bonus ! Murphy's Tire and Tube Mounting Compound will also help seal beads ! You can't do this with dish soap or Ru-Glyde.
How to Seat a Bead with Murphy's Soap for Tires by All Tire Supply
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Old Man Roger
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Now that you mention it, I've had low pressure tires move on the rim when using soap.
bwringer
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Hey, how about mounting tires with, you know, actual Tire Mounting Lube?
Has anyone mentioned RuGlyde yet?
You won't find it in every Napa store, but the larger ones usually have it around.
Dish soap is a rotten idea; it's a lovely way to corrode your wheels. If you've done much fooling around with vintage machninery, you'll have seen the damage hillbilly substitutes can do.
Has anyone mentioned RuGlyde yet?
You won't find it in every Napa store, but the larger ones usually have it around.
Dish soap is a rotten idea; it's a lovely way to corrode your wheels. If you've done much fooling around with vintage machninery, you'll have seen the damage hillbilly substitutes can do.
rlitman
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Any dish soap mixed with water will work. Don't be stingy wit it !
A bucket of this will last you a lifetime !
Bonus ! Murphy's Tire and Tube Mounting Compound will also help seal beads ! You can't do this with dish soap or Ru-Glyde.
How to Seat a Bead with Murphy's Soap for Tires by All Tire Supply
Murphy's is good. I use Duck Butter:
It's much cheaper than Murphy's.
Old Man Roger
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Just a word of unsolicited advice.Hey, how about mounting tires with, you know, actual Tire Mounting Lube?
Has anyone mentioned RuGlyde yet?
You won't find it in every Napa store, but the larger ones usually have it around.
Dish soap is a rotten idea; it's a lovely way to corrode your wheels. If you've done much fooling around with vintage machninery, you'll have seen the damage hillbilly substitutes can do.
Had you read some of the posts in this thread before you posted, you would see that you just called half the people in it a hillbilly.
You would have also seen the other half recommended RuGlyde, or similar commercially available options.Maybe you might want to try reading before you act all high and mighty in your reply?
Maybe consider that some might think he was looking for an alternative to whats commercially available?
Maybe someone would need something that would work in a pinch?
Maybe consider that dish soap works fine on alloy rims?
This ''hillbilly'' has changed hundreds of tires using dishsoap, the only thing close to an issue that I've ever had, was an atv tire that was ran at about 3psi. It rotated about an inch on the rim, hitting the brakes a few times fixed the issue, once the soap dried it never moved again.
No hate, just sayin.
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wood02
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Ruglyde and Murphy's...
Steve W.
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Just a word of unsolicited advice.
Had you read some of the posts in this thread before you posted, you would see that you just called half the people in it a hillbilly.
Maybe you might want to try reading before you act all high and mighty in your reply?
Maybe consider that some might think he was looking for an alternative to whats commercially available?
Maybe someone would need something that would work in a pinch?
Maybe consider that dish soap works fine on alloy rims?
This ''hillbilly'' has changed hundreds of tires using dishsoap, the only thing close to an issue that I've ever had, was an atv tire that was ran at about 3psi. It rotated about an inch on the rim, hitting the brakes a few times fixed the issue, once the soap dried it never moved again.
No hate, just sayin.
Roger, if you go back and re-read what bwringer said, YOU might be the one that needs to re-consider.
Although he did mention that dish soap is rather corrosive, I believe that this is a rather general statement, not specifically about tire lube. Bwringer and I are both on another forum that deals with "vintage machinery" and we have both seen some rather incredible bodges that were done to get those machines going again.
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MikeF2316
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I have an old jam jar that I have some proper tire mounting lube that I got from my buddy's shop. I don't use it much, I do most of my tire work when I'm at said shop.
ptgarcia
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I use Ru-Glyde, too. Soap and detergent based substitutes are usually corrosive over time, but the bigger problem for me is spinning a tire on the wheel. With off road tires running at lower pressures it’s a real possibility, and with tubed tires it will likely lead to a ripped valve stem and a flat tire. Something I try to avoid when on my dirt bike in the middle of nowhere.
Paul
Paul
Old Man Roger
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Ya maybe I read it wrong. Sometimes it's difficult to get a real feel of a post.
archibaldtuttle
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with great affection for hillbillys, seeing if i can reboot this thread on the question of cold weather compounds?
i have a standard pale of snot (can't remember the brand but it is unmistakable and umistakeably water based, i.e. frozen solid, when winter comes to my unheated garage. that's a problem that i meant to fix 20 years ago but got involved in fighting with the government instead and my infrastructure suffered for it.
I prefer the consistency as it both lubricates but assisting in bead setting on difficult tires. regardless of additional straps, bike tire tubes, etc. liberal application of this compound of which the clean excess can be recovered helps hold the air just to enough pressure to pop the bead on in many cases.
I'm looking for a freeze tolerant equivalent. My first suspicion might have been a silicone based lubricrant of the sort i use for sink o-rings and all kinds of plastic, rubber auto parts and as dielectric corrosion reistance on low voltage electrical connects so I sure wouldn't mind having 30 lbs of this stuff but: at least at first blush that's going on half a grand for big bucket. I'm looking for maybe an order of magnitude cost reduction or at least splitting the difference.
I notice several products no one seems to mention that are specifically formulated to protect against rim rust (vs. rust inhibitors added) of which one is "freylube" (not mentioned in this thread but in an earlier one from 2016). appears there is a similar Xtra product actually called "no rim rust". These designations suggest to me that they are not water based nor particularly hygroscopic which is advantageous as to both cold weather and to rim health but I wonder about how close they are to the snot like quality that helps make beads so well. On the surface of things they don't seem to be significantly more expensive than more apparently water based products.
also mentioned often is ruglyde and I can't seem to figure out quite where this falls in the spectrum of chemistry and goopacity.
There is also an Xtra product called "Europaste" and I can't really find a good comparison of ingredients/base to help me understand where this falls in the spectrum in so far is lubricity, and quantities for bead setting, etc. and they don't seem to let on how it compares to their own "no rim rust" product although I intend to call and ask tomorrow.
Murphys looks good for bead setting although some have said they don't prefer it although not sure why. I'm guessing because they speak about "vegetable-based" this is a vegetable oil product (which, for all i know may be similar to the no rim rust style but i'm not sure). Nonetheless it speaks about diluting it with water so however it is compounded it appears to be accepting of water so not sure whether there is some in the formula and how it would perform in the cold.
And for those concerned on this chain concerned about the corrosive problems with dish soap (which is otherwise a simple and readily available lubricant), what about baby shampoo? My understanding is the corrosive properties of many household soaps are just what is mitigated in order to make soaps that don't irritate the eyes.
Think that hits more or less all the questions for boxing day (got my wife some new 5.00-10 tires for the 89 daihatsu dump which has cracked sidewalls and needs air every day and had some trouble finding those tires. These are nominally the right tires, but just looking at them i can see they flex in away from the tread and are going to give me a hard time with the bead seating so i'm hoping a few garage heads are hanging near the hearth today and might have something to say so I can order some of this and get her tires mounted during the 12 days of christmas (then it still counts).
all I can say if you made it this far, is merry christmas and hope to hear from you.
thanks,
brian
i have a standard pale of snot (can't remember the brand but it is unmistakable and umistakeably water based, i.e. frozen solid, when winter comes to my unheated garage. that's a problem that i meant to fix 20 years ago but got involved in fighting with the government instead and my infrastructure suffered for it.
I prefer the consistency as it both lubricates but assisting in bead setting on difficult tires. regardless of additional straps, bike tire tubes, etc. liberal application of this compound of which the clean excess can be recovered helps hold the air just to enough pressure to pop the bead on in many cases.
I'm looking for a freeze tolerant equivalent. My first suspicion might have been a silicone based lubricrant of the sort i use for sink o-rings and all kinds of plastic, rubber auto parts and as dielectric corrosion reistance on low voltage electrical connects so I sure wouldn't mind having 30 lbs of this stuff but: at least at first blush that's going on half a grand for big bucket. I'm looking for maybe an order of magnitude cost reduction or at least splitting the difference.
I notice several products no one seems to mention that are specifically formulated to protect against rim rust (vs. rust inhibitors added) of which one is "freylube" (not mentioned in this thread but in an earlier one from 2016). appears there is a similar Xtra product actually called "no rim rust". These designations suggest to me that they are not water based nor particularly hygroscopic which is advantageous as to both cold weather and to rim health but I wonder about how close they are to the snot like quality that helps make beads so well. On the surface of things they don't seem to be significantly more expensive than more apparently water based products.
also mentioned often is ruglyde and I can't seem to figure out quite where this falls in the spectrum of chemistry and goopacity.
There is also an Xtra product called "Europaste" and I can't really find a good comparison of ingredients/base to help me understand where this falls in the spectrum in so far is lubricity, and quantities for bead setting, etc. and they don't seem to let on how it compares to their own "no rim rust" product although I intend to call and ask tomorrow.
Murphys looks good for bead setting although some have said they don't prefer it although not sure why. I'm guessing because they speak about "vegetable-based" this is a vegetable oil product (which, for all i know may be similar to the no rim rust style but i'm not sure). Nonetheless it speaks about diluting it with water so however it is compounded it appears to be accepting of water so not sure whether there is some in the formula and how it would perform in the cold.
And for those concerned on this chain concerned about the corrosive problems with dish soap (which is otherwise a simple and readily available lubricant), what about baby shampoo? My understanding is the corrosive properties of many household soaps are just what is mitigated in order to make soaps that don't irritate the eyes.
Think that hits more or less all the questions for boxing day (got my wife some new 5.00-10 tires for the 89 daihatsu dump which has cracked sidewalls and needs air every day and had some trouble finding those tires. These are nominally the right tires, but just looking at them i can see they flex in away from the tread and are going to give me a hard time with the bead seating so i'm hoping a few garage heads are hanging near the hearth today and might have something to say so I can order some of this and get her tires mounted during the 12 days of christmas (then it still counts).
all I can say if you made it this far, is merry christmas and hope to hear from you.
thanks,
brian
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bubinga
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You're not going to believe it but the gas station I worked at he used ATF.
We used to break down and reseal bead leaks with ATF as well it's sealed them.
nicks78camaro
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This is what we use at the shop daily, like it the best out of any we've tried https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p...YC8E1bSsHKL9R6sIH-QaAiGUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds