Why aren't there more USA made jack and jack stands?

[Samuel D]

Saying mfgs are greedy doesn't tell the whole picture. In 1980 (Yep, 40 yrs ago) a large (25k employees) USA mfg company I worked for spilled 20ish gals of DI water diluted acetone due to a cracked pipe burried under the ground. It was traveling to the mandatory waste water plant we built...for millions to meet EPA and other regs. It cost over a million to remedy the spill and pay the fines. In comparison, offshore countries just dumped it where ever and had no govt agencies to deal with. In the USA the EPA requires reporting spills of 4 oz or more and it doesn't end there.

Which “offshore countries” allow dumping of acetone wherever is convenient?

Certainly not the manufacturing powerhouses of Germany or Japan, whose environmental protection laws and culture are at least as strict as America’s. Germany is full of people meticulously splitting their rubbish into different sorts of recycling bins, not people longing for the good old days when they could dump acetone into the groundwater. Certainly not China, which is spending astronomical sums of money to clean up its industry.

 

[rharman]

Interesting point. My dad bought a Craftsman jack in 1973 for $99.99. The green jack with the white saddle. According to https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

That would be $580 in today's dollars.

Coach

I have that same jack. I guess it's worth the $50 rebuild kit I have laying around since it's now a $600 jack...

 

[measuredtwice]

Saying Americans don't care about COO is propaganda. Saying American manufacturers are stuck in the 1940s is also propaganda.

Here's part of a recent survey. The vast majority want COO clearly identified (contrary to what is often claimed on social media). Only 25% didn't care if products are made in China. 40% don't want to buy goods from China. The rest don't like buying from China but they'll still buy.

 

[M635_Guy]

Saying Americans don't care about COO is propaganda. Saying American manufacturers are stuck in the 1940s is also propaganda.

Here's part of a recent survey. The vast majority want COO clearly identified (contrary to what is often claimed on social media). Only 25% didn't care if products are made in China. 40% don't want to buy goods from China. The rest don't like buying from China but they'll still buy.

I'm not saying they don't care, I'm saying they don't bring their wallet to the dance. If you have a look at what is in homes of the 40% who say they don't want to buy goods from China, you know what you're going to find, right? And what's in their garages?

Probably more significant in that survey (summary found here for folks wanting to look at the whole thing) is what's found on page 22: 77% of Americans are willing to pay Zero to 10% more for MiUSA (24% aren't willing to pay any more, another 26% are willing to pay 5% more). This is the foundation of the problem: People are fine to wrap themselves in bald eagles and rail on internet forums, but far too many aren't willing to back it up with their wallet.

Have fun making a business case out of that.

It seems very trendy these days to shout at the rain, but it's not simply a case of "build it (in the USA) and they will come."

 

[measuredtwice]

If you have a look at what is in homes of the 40% who say they don't want to buy goods from China, you know what you're going to find, right? And what's in their garages?

Probably more significant in that survey (summary found here for folks wanting to look at the whole thing) is what's found on page 22: 77% of Americans are willing to pay Zero to 10% more for MiUSA (24% aren't willing to pay any more, another 26% are willing to pay 5% more). This is the foundation of the problem: People are fine to wrap themselves in bald eagles and rail on internet forums, but far too many aren't willing to back it up with their wallet.

Have fun making a business case out of that.

It seems very trendy these days to shout at the rain, but it's not simply a case of "build it (in the USA) and they will come."

How would one "wrap themselves in bald eagles"

So say people don't want to pay more. Don't say people don't care about COO since that's just propaganda from people wrapped in the flag of China.

 

[M635_Guy]

How would one "wrap themselves in bald eagles"

So say people don't want to pay more. Don't say people don't care about COO since that's just propaganda from people wrapped in the flag of China.

I think most people don't care enough when they open their wallet. I do think there should be clear COO info available. But the data in that survey says it won't make much of a difference in actual spending. Americans are cheap.

 

[measuredtwice]

I think most people don't care enough when they open their wallet. I do think there should be clear COO info available. But the data in that survey says it won't make much of a difference in actual spending. Americans are cheap.

May or may not make a difference in spending. Regardless, I think transparency is important.

Japan was mentioned earlier. The disruptions of the supply chain have hurt them as well as the USA and many others. Their covid-19 relief package included around 2 billion to relocate some manufacturing from China to Japan and parts of SE Asia. Something to keep an eye on and see how it plays out.

 

[M635_Guy]

May or may not make a difference in spending. Regardless, I think transparency is important.

Japan was mentioned earlier. The disruptions of the supply chain have hurt them as well as the USA and many others. Their covid-19 relief package included around 2 billion to relocate some manufacturing from China to Japan and parts of SE Asia. Something to keep an eye on and see how it plays out.

I sorta live in that world (when the world isn't in chaos I go to Japan and China at least once a year each, and Asia in general 3-5 times a year). $2B USD won't move much when it comes to large manufacturing plants, though Japan's domestic scenario is complicated in many ways that are different than the US, including and especially the relationship with China.

 

[measuredtwice]

I sorta live in that world (when the world isn't in chaos I go to Japan and China at least once a year each, and Asia in general 3-5 times a year). $2B USD won't move much when it comes to large manufacturing plants, though Japan's domestic scenario is complicated in many ways that are different than the US, including and especially the relationship with China.

It doesn't sound like a lot but supposedly they've already spent around 1/2 billion to help 80-90 companies move production out of China. I've just been following it in the news and don't know the details off hand.

Edit: Oops, it was 57 companies at 535 million...

"In March, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said the government wanted to bring production back home and diversify into Southeast Asia. The following month, the government set aside $2.2 billion in its coronavirus economic recovery package to subsidize that process......

......It has now announced a list of companies that will benefit from the first round of subsidies, with 57 companies receiving a total of $535 million to open factories in Japan and 30 others paid to expand production in Vietnam, Myanmar, Thailand and other Southeast Asian countries."

 

[zendriver]

Wow - you're quite the googler.

First, that's true of the products under those brands here, but it's not as true of the products under those brands there. Japan isn't immune to the rise of Chinese production, but when it comes to a lot of things like tools/power tools, cars, higher-end cameras/lenses, lots of household appliances, etc. the demand for Japanese-made is extremely strong, and far more than exists here in the US for US production.

Any numbers to back up your statement?

Just curious since they import about $170 billion a year from China which is about 50% of that is consumer goods.

Certainly goods have to be more expensive to produce in Japan than China, same situation as here.

It seems their businesses and consumers face these economic realities, just like everyone else.

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[American Locomotive]

Saying Americans don't care about COO is propaganda. Saying American manufacturers are stuck in the 1940s is also propaganda.

Something you disagree with isn't "propaganda".

The survey you cited also has its own problems. Mainly that the majority of the survey questions are asking questions about the current pandemic, how the pandemic has affected them and many other similar questions. When you have such a broad survey with so many different questions, you are inevitably going to get biased responses just from conditioning via previous questions.

M635's point really drives that home: The question about how much extra you would pay for something not made in China: A full 24% of people aren't willing to pay any more, 26% only 5% more, and 27% would only pay 10% extra. That's $5-10 on a $100 item. A full 77% of Americans aren't willing to spend more than a few bucks to buy American over Chinese. So, sure 40% of Americans may thump their chest and proclaim they won't buy anything from China, but by the time they get to the store - money matters more.

I also never once claimed that the entirety of U.S. Manufacturing was stuck in the 1940s - that's your own fabricated strawman argument. I said the brands and products that are no longer made here were typically made in old, outdated facilities with extremely high labor costs and high reject rates. They refused to modernize, so they died. I worked in U.S. industry, talked with many industry veterans and this is what happened.

You can blame China all you want, but when countries like Germany have a GROWING manufacturing sector - where manufacturing is contributing to a larger and larger percentage of their GDP - it sort of throws that argument out the window.

It's literally an industry in itself for foreign investors to purchase dying/bankrupt U.S manufacturing companies, completely gut the factories, fit them with modern equipment, and build a profitable business manufacturing the same exact parts for the exact same customers - just with modern equipment.

 

[measuredtwice]

Something you disagree with isn't "propaganda".

This is the definition of propaganda that I use --> "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

The survey you cited also has its own problems. Mainly that the majority of the survey questions are asking questions about the current pandemic, how the pandemic has affected them and many other similar questions. When you have such a broad survey with so many different questions, you are inevitably going to get biased responses just from conditioning via previous questions.

Between the results of a survey and the opinion of an anonymous person on the internet, I am going to give more weight to the actual data. Any survey has limitations and should be read with skepticism and objectivity. Multiply that healthy skepticism by a billion for random comments on the net.

M635's point really drives that home: The question about how much extra you would pay for something not made in China: A full 24% of people aren't willing to pay any more, 26% only 5% more, and 27% would only pay 10% extra. That's $5-10 on a $100 item. A full 77% of Americans aren't willing to spend more than a few bucks to buy American over Chinese. So, sure 40% of Americans may thump their chest and proclaim they won't buy anything from China, but by the time they get to the store - money matters more.

So say they won't pay more. Don't twist it to fit your agenda.

I also never once claimed that the entirety of U.S. Manufacturing was stuck in the 1940s - that's your own fabricated strawman argument.

Show me where you said US manufacturers modernized BEFORE my reply. Not afterwards.

 

[M635_Guy]

Any numbers to back up your statement?

Just curious since they import about $170 billion a year from China which is about 50% of that is consumer goods.

Certainly goods have to be more expensive to produce in Japan than China, same situation as here.

It seems their businesses and consumers face these economic realities, just like everyone else.

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I'm trying to figure out the point you're making. But since you're feeling like googling this morning I'll let you do the work. Search on the market-share for non-domestic goods like cars, stereo equipment, cameras, etc. Hell, even phones that have terrible share outside of Japan have significant volume there. Yes - there are plenty of products made in China, especially those without domestic competitors, but if you wander around in Japanese shops and malls (as I have many times in my dozens of visits there) it's absolutely clear that MiJ has significant weight in a way that is completely absent here.

 

[CmpAnaheim]

I can tell you after using my Milwaukee model 20 the DJ3000 from Harbor Freight cannot compare. The model 20 is rated at 2 ton the DJ3000 is rated at 3 ton yet the Milwaukee lifts my car with so much less effort.

Floor jacks are less important than Jack Stands. If you are going to skimp, skimp on the jack not the jack stand. Napa has some excellent sales on their 4 and 7 ton floor jacks. They look to be the same is The Hein Werner stands and are extremely well built. Avoid Harbor Freight on Jack Stands, Never, ever get under a car without proper Jack Stands.


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[CmpAnaheim]

Dude - that's laughable. At best the SO jack is squeaks by on a couple small points that might be worth a tiny fraction of the premium they're asking for a jack almost certainly made in the same facility. The Daytona (yellow) jack is an outstanding jack, and absolutely worth what they're charging for it. The differences appear to be the wheels (difference in lift height and probably the majority of the weight, along with what I understand is a slightly different handle). It's not MiUSA, so it's worth what HF is charging for it, maybe a few bucks more for the improved seals I understand they use, but that's about it.





You could say the same thing for products made pretty much anywhere. Even Japan and Germany have their examples.

Just because you own it and don’t know any better. I can tell you this for sure. If you owned a Milwaukee and the DJ3000, you would never use the Chinese jack. But tell yourself it’s great and if you believes it that’s all that matters. It’s disposable, no rebuild kit so when it leaks (and it eventually will), you throw it away. The Snap On version weighs much more. It may not seem like much but in such a small package it would a big difference. I’m not saying that it’s worth the $$$ difference. Norco jacks can be rebuilt, and Hein Werner, although made in China is much better built than anything at Harbor Freight.


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[American Locomotive]

So say they won't pay more. Don't twist it to fit your agenda.

40% say they "won't" buy Chinese goods. But the argument in this thread is that American goods cost more because we can't compete with Chinese labor and manufacturing costs. Then in that very same survey 77% of people basically admit they aren't willing to pay appreciably more for an American made item.

You can then quitely easily draw conclusions that Americans say they care deeply COO, but price ultimately drives their decisions. If you say you won't buy a Chinese something if the American version costs 10% more, but the American version almost always costs more - then do you really care about COO?

Show me where you said US manufacturers modernized BEFORE my reply. Not afterwards.

Can you show me in my post where I explictly stated that not a single American manufacturer has ever modernized? The context of that statement was quite clearly referring to the prior sentence regarding failed American manufacturers. Not manufacturing as a whole. Hence why both those sentences were in the same paragraph.

You then fabricated your own made up story about me claiming the entire U.S. manufacturing industry was stuck in the 1940s. I never claimed or implied that. That is all your doing.

 

[measuredtwice]

do you really care about COO?

This is tiresome. They care but most aren't willing to pay more. It's quite simple to say. Saying they don't care about COO is not accurate and it has other implications. Unless you're trying to push those false implications, it should be simple enough just to say they aren't willing to pay more.

Can you show me in my post where I explictly stated that not a single American manufacturer has ever modernized? The context of that statement was quite clearly referring to the prior sentence regarding failed American manufacturers. Not manufacturing as a whole. Hence why both those sentences were in the same paragraph.

You then fabricated your own made up story about me claiming the entire U.S. manufacturing industry was stuck in the 1940s. I never claimed or implied that. That is all your doing.

I asked you where you said American manufacturers modernized and you can't but I can show you where you said they were stuck in the 40s.

The long answer is that American manufacturers rested on their laurels for decades and never modernized or updated their production facilities. They used old outdated production methods that were/are very labor intensive, and therefore had very high costs.

My point was that many U.S. brands stopped making things in the U.S. because they couldn't compete on cost. They couldn't compete on cost because they were still using the same manufacturing process they were in the 1940s. They never fully modernized. If they had modernized their production facilities, they would have been able to produce more, for cheaper.

Knipex is a high-end German manufacturer (where it's extremely expensive to build things!) and they are able to compete globally with affordable (well, the premium side of affordable) tools that are extremely high quality. They can do this because they invested heavily in automation and training their employees how to use these machines and be more productive.

You contrast American manufacturers with foreign companies modernizing. In that context, you gave the impression of Americans resting on their laurels and Germany modernizing. That may have been unintentional. I'm willing to concede that it was unintentional on your part. It would be a harmful and false stereotype to push that American manufacturers are stuck in the 40s and foreign competition have modernized. There are examples in the USA and other countries where companies failed to modernize. And there examples in the USA and other countries that did modernize and were successful.

 

[1982fxr]

Which “offshore countries” allow dumping of acetone wherever is convenient?

Certainly not the manufacturing powerhouses of Germany or Japan, whose environmental protection laws and culture are at least as strict as America’s. Germany is full of people meticulously splitting their rubbish into different sorts of recycling bins, not people longing for the good old days when they could dump acetone into the groundwater. Certainly not China, which is spending astronomical sums of money to clean up its industry.

Certainly not China lol.

According to the Chinese Ministry of Health, industrial pollution has made cancer China's leading cause of death. Every year, ambient air pollution alone killed hundreds of thousands of citizens. 500 million people in China are without safe and clean drinking water.

 

[Cryptic1911]

We just turned in our two sets of HF jack stands for a refund, so I just went through hours and hours of googling to try and find USA made jack stands and all I could find were usjacks. I was prepared to buy a set, but I couldn't find any place that had them in stock before september. I ended up buying a set of chinese made otc 6 ton ratcheting stands because I actually NEED to have two sets of jack stands in the next week. The otc's looked better constructed than the standard stands that everyone seems to sell

 

[paulsomlo]

So, after five pages of posts, I'd like to ask the originator of the thread - was it really your intent to start a debate on the state of American manufacturing, or were you just looking for recommendations on a US made jack and stands? If the latter, it would be nice to know what you ended up with.

 

[CmpAnaheim]

We just turned in our two sets of HF jack stands for a refund, so I just went through hours and hours of googling to try and find USA made jack stands and all I could find were usjacks. I was prepared to buy a set, but I couldn't find any place that had them in stock before september. I ended up buying a set of chinese made otc 6 ton ratcheting stands because I actually NEED to have two sets of jack stands in the next week. The otc's looked better constructed than the standard stands that everyone seems to sell

Look at Napa for their 4 ton and 7 ton which are heavily discounted. They are under the Napa name and built very well..


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[M635_Guy]

Just because you own it and don’t know any better. I can tell you this for sure. If you owned a Milwaukee and the DJ3000, you would never use the Chinese jack. But tell yourself it’s great and if you believes it that’s all that matters. It’s disposable, no rebuild kit so when it leaks (and it eventually will), you throw it away. The Snap On version weighs much more. It may not seem like much but in such a small package it would a big difference. I’m not saying that it’s worth the $$$ difference. Norco jacks can be rebuilt, and Hein Werner, although made in China is much better built than anything at Harbor Freight.


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Firstly, at nearly five times the price, it ought to be substantially better (ref. Mil Mod. 20). As for the FJ300, it's a whopping seven pounds heavier and MiC too. You should stick to the Milwaukee for comparison.

As for it leaking, my jacks live a pretty easy life. Even the crappiest ones I've owned have given me seven or eight years, and frankly that's plenty. Based on various things I've read (including the thread here where someone did actually look at the internals) they're using pretty premium seals in the Daytona jack, so I have zero concerns mine won't give me 8-10 years. (Yes, the SO version had better seals in total, and offers rebuild kits, but that isn't worth the $$ for me)

When I put a grand in lifting equipment, it was in a QuickJack. If I had the pad and height in my garage it would have been a real lift, but the QJ does fine.

 

[bpjr]

Which “offshore countries” allow dumping of acetone wherever is convenient?

Certainly not the manufacturing powerhouses of Germany or Japan, whose environmental protection laws and culture are at least as strict as America’s. Germany is full of people meticulously splitting their rubbish into different sorts of recycling bins, not people longing for the good old days when they could dump acetone into the groundwater. Certainly not China, which is spending astronomical sums of money to clean up its industry.

You are talking now, not back in the 1970s when the ********* environmental laws really started kicking mfg butts in the USA. In the late 1960s even the citrus growers weren't able to compete with Brazilian growers due to EPA laws in the USA. The USA basically invented the environmental industry and the others followed. The list is long but you will have to do your own homework. The USA was recycling glass and paper in the 1930s and sorting rubbish for decades.

 

[skernv99]

Are the Matco branded jacks Taiwan made or USA made? I’m looking for a lighter jack than the Astro Pneumatic Astroline “orange” 2 ton jack that I was gifted last year. Dang thing is heavy to transport and I was looking at the hybrid aluminum steel “race” jacks to take on road trips. I know some of the Mac Tools jacks are made in China. Just wondering about Matco. Thanks

 

[anndel]

I look for and buy without hesitation Made in: U.S.A., Canada, Japan, Taiwan and Europe. I'll look into more detail Made in India and Mexico/South America. I'll try to avoid made in china as much as I can. Stuff made in South America are good but I try to avoid Made in Brazil just because of their deforestation initiatives in the Amazon.

 

[JR 42]

You are talking now, not back in the 1970s when the ********* environmental laws really started kicking mfg butts in the USA. In the late 1960s even the citrus growers weren't able to compete with Brazilian growers due to EPA laws in the USA. The USA basically invented the environmental industry and the others followed. The list is long but you will have to do your own homework. The USA was recycling glass and paper in the 1930s and sorting rubbish for decades.

Weren't the US laws based on the consequences from **** like dumping acetone in rivers? I thought the Cuyahoga River fire (ETA, the one in 1969, not the earlier ones, or the Rouge... etc.) was one of the sparks (haha) that led to the bipartisan formation of the EPA by Nixon of all people.

 

[M635_Guy]

Weren't the US laws based on the consequences from **** like dumping acetone in rivers? I thought the Cuyahoga River fire (ETA, the one in 1969, not the earlier ones, or the Rouge... etc.) was one of the sparks (haha) that led to the bipartisan formation of the EPA by Nixon of all people.

Randy Newman even wrote a song about it - LoL

 

[B17E1943]

I have my own made in USA jackstands that are made from old Model T Ford axles that a mechanic made back in the 1960s I bought them at his estate sale so if you have access to old Model T axles you can custom make some lol


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Let's see 'em.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Let's see 'em.

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[CmpAnaheim]

Firstly, at nearly five times the price, it ought to be substantially better (ref. Mil Mod. 20). As for the FJ300, it's a whopping seven pounds heavier and MiC too. You should stick to the Milwaukee for comparison.



As for it leaking, my jacks live a pretty easy life. Even the crappiest ones I've owned have given me seven or eight years, and frankly that's plenty. Based on various things I've read (including the thread here where someone did actually look at the internals) they're using pretty premium seals in the Daytona jack, so I have zero concerns mine won't give me 8-10 years. (Yes, the SO version had better seals in total, and offers rebuild kits, but that isn't worth the $$ for me)



When I put a grand in lifting equipment, it was in a QuickJack. If I had the pad and height in my garage it would have been a real lift, but the QJ does fine.

I purchased my Milwaukee used for $140 in great shape. This is why US company’s don’t make floor jacks. To make a really great floor jack cost money. Harbor Freight has buying power to take what is probability a $350 jack and sell it for $199. Most people are happy because it is better than a $99 floor jack. I still think Hein Werner and Norco are better options. I did like my DJ3000 until it started making noise and the zerk fitting fell off. Plus it did not took more effort to lift a car than when I first bought it.

Floor jacks are great but investing in the best jack stand is what matters more.


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[B17E1943]

Great - thanks!

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Great - thanks!

You’re welcome I was hoping someone would ask about them. Lol. [emoji106]


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[bpjr]

Weren't the US laws based on the consequences from **** like dumping acetone in rivers? I thought the Cuyahoga River fire (ETA, the one in 1969, not the earlier ones, or the Rouge... etc.) was one of the sparks (haha) that led to the bipartisan formation of the EPA by Nixon of all people.

I don't know the answer to what started it all but the laws followed the damage because we didn't have knowledge or the technology to measure the damage. Way back water pollution was measured in dead fish floating, then x number of parts per 100, then x number per 1000, then 1,000,000. It's probably parts per billion or more now. Every time technology lets us measure smaller sampling the laws are written to that standard.

 

[ozyborn]

Hmm My guess. My grandfather bought a set of 4 stands and a jack decades ago. I still use those to this day. Never any issues, no need to ever buy them again.

 

[1982fxr]

Randy Newman even wrote a song about it - LoL

I always wondered if that was a real song or just soundtrack music for Major League.

 

[bubinga]

harbor freight just recalled all their jack stands so your theory is off.


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No, from my understanding it was only a certain batch of harbor freight's jack stands that were not up to quality control standards. They just recalled a bunch of them and even took back ones that weren't under recall just to cover their ****.

 

[RickyPetite]

Rennstand's by SafeJack. Great product.

 

[M635_Guy]

I always wondered if that was a real song or just soundtrack music for Major League.

Defini

I always wondered if that was a real song or just soundtrack music for Major League.

It was an ironic/mocking song based on real events (the pollution in the river kept catching on fire...)

Sail Away (Randy Newman album) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Burn On" is heard over the opening credits of the 1989 movie Major League. According to the film's director, David S. Ward, he chose the song because it was the only one he knew of that was about Cleveland, Ohio, which is where the movie takes place. The chorus of the song, "burn on, big river, burn on," refers to when the Cuyahoga River caught fire due to pollution in 1969." (it wasn't the first time, but was what sparked a massive cleanup and more regulations to end the semi-regular issue)

A few more comments here (a lyrics website)

 

[Ralf11]

Interesting how many love and supports capitalism - until it produces something they don’t like.

As much as we Americans like to make it “all about us” it’s really not.

Many or most companies sell products globally, other countries could care less where the product is made maybe even seeing US made as a negative.


Briggs and Stratton did their best to keep it local, but they were rewarded by having everyone by Honda Or Chinese engines

That whole capitalism thing.


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Economists will tell you that real capitalism involves free trade, and equal things should be made where they are cheapest, then traded for what some other place does best.

Also, Taiwan, Japan, and Germany are US allies. I got no problems buying from them.

 

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While I have no first-hand experience with the U.S.-made Safe Jack RennStand, I'm drawn to how it works in conjunction with a floor jack. I always seem to struggle to find a lifting point on the underside of a vehicle that isn't where I intend to place a jack stand. This could help with that. I don't have a lift in my garage, so I must rely on a floor jack to lift my vehicle and a pair of ESCO 3-Ton Performance Jack Stands and a pair of ratcheting-type stands I borrow from my neighbor to keep it safely in the air.

RennStand

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