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[JoCoSawdust]

I'd say no on the green paint being OEM..if it was sold through Sears. It looks like there's remnants of the rivets for a logo in the oval but the rivets aren't painted. I'd be curious to see a pic of the side handles. I've got an AMD 2d chest from the same era (45-48) that's blue (looks like a repaint) that has oddball side handles on it. They look like nothing I've seen on any Craftsman branded boxes. The front cover was never punched out for rivets to hold a logo. It makes me wonder if AMD ever sold any of these boxes to another supplier without the Craftsman brand. If you get that box please post more pics.

 

[DaveT]

Just took a low-risk low-price flyer on this box (sight unseen). Was Dark Olive Drab ever a thing for these boxes? I told the seller I believed it was a quality repaint (shooting from the hip is a forte) I humbly submit to the experts for your take. Hard to tell from the pics if the Heritage badge is missing or was never there.....

Nice find outofbounds. That’s an early one 1948ish. It’s so hard to date these boxes. Yours has two handle drawers which were last pictured in the 1948 catalog. Interestingly though when you look at the 1948 catalog the two drawer unit does not have the raised handle on the front cover door like yours does. That handle appears in the 1949 catalog on a unit that has single handle drawers.

 

[outofbounds]

I'd say no on the green paint being OEM..if it was sold through Sears. It looks like there's remnants of the rivets for a logo in the oval but the rivets aren't painted. I'd be curious to see a pic of the side handles. I've got an AMD 2d chest from the same era (45-48) that's blue (looks like a repaint) that has oddball side handles on it. They look like nothing I've seen on any Craftsman branded boxes. The front cover was never punched out for rivets to hold a logo. It makes me wonder if AMD ever sold any of these boxes to another supplier without the Craftsman brand. If you get that box please post more pics.

joCo, I bought the box sight unseen. I'll have it in a couple of days, and offer more detailed pics. PS - Did you receive those amber nut drivers yet? I was wondering your comment on the clear handled spinner I tossed in with them. Curious what the deal is on the end of that handle. Thanks!!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Ah, I now understand! Well congrats, it looks like a solid box. I did get your package and thanks! Looking at the amber drivers, I think one is pre-war and one is post. It was interesting and educational to see the difference. As far as the other spinner, I think it originally had the ball shaped end on the handle and some PO along the way decided to remove it for some reason. Thanks again!

 

[Smokeshow69]

I got it! Paid $150 and it had the red tray along with a little shelf in the middle drawer!

Been looking for a 10 drawer upper box for awhile to go along with my other heritage top box. I've never seen the little shelf in the middle drawer and was happy to get the lift tray too! I'll be cleaning it up and determine if I'll paint it like I did my other heritage box.

Very nicely done! Those don’t show up often in original paint. I would argue against repainting this. There is enough original paint to clean up and wax! Plus I am sure someone on here may have your missing handle. Great score


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[madison069]

Very nicely done! Those don’t show up often in original paint. I would argue against repainting this. There is enough original paint to clean up and wax! Plus I am sure someone on here may have your missing handle. Great score


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Thanks!

Also where am I missing a handle? That upper right box handle is rusty and blends in with the rust behind it so maybe it camouflaged itself very well?

Did a little bit of cleaning with some steel wool and wd40, but its not cleaning up any better really. I'll have to think about it some more. But the inside is very nice!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks!



Also where am I missing a handle? That upper right box handle is rusty and blends in with the rust behind it so maybe it camouflaged itself very well?



Did a little bit of cleaning with some steel wool and wd40, but its not cleaning up any better really. I'll have to think about it some more. But the inside is very nice!

Sorry, you are not missing a handle. It just blends in.


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[Smokeshow69]

Thanks!



Also where am I missing a handle? That upper right box handle is rusty and blends in with the rust behind it so maybe it camouflaged itself very well?



Did a little bit of cleaning with some steel wool and wd40, but its not cleaning up any better really. I'll have to think about it some more. But the inside is very nice!

Hello, can you or someone post a picture of their side handle on an 8 drawer lower roller. I am not sure if mine is correct? I believe the handle should loop in on itself, not flare out?



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[JoCoSawdust]

You are correct Smokes.
EDIT: Although, my pic is from a Heritage 8d. Possible they did it differently that last year and half or so for the Crowns? Is your handle riveted on?

 

[Cruzan80]

My 7D Crowntop roller is the same as JoCo's.

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[Smokeshow69]

You are correct Smokes.
EDIT: Although, my pic is from a Heritage 8d. Possible they did it differently that last year and half or so for the Crowns? Is your handle riveted on?

No, it is a screw on handle. It is missing the screws but I think yours is correct? They had that same style on the early red and grey units so I would assume they used the same throughout? Also what Proto empire tool board is that? If I didn’t know better, I would say you are trolling me? [emoji23]


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[Smokeshow69]

My 7D Crowntop roller is the same as JoCo's.

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Ok, so 59 was the same. I think I may have a replacement handle


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[JoCoSawdust]

Ha! No, I'm just running out of room and things are tight in the shop right now. Working on increasing shop size by a third to get some breathing room. That's the Rotomat peeking in on the left.

Yeah I know the handle on mine is correct, just wondering if the one on yours might be OEM for the Crown versions. Your handle does look a bit less weathered than the rest of the box.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Ha! No, I'm just running out of room and things are tight in the shop right now. Working on increasing shop size by a third to get some breathing room. That's the Rotomat peeking in on the left.

Yeah I know the handle on mine is correct, just wondering if the one on yours might be OEM for the Crown versions. Your handle does look a bit less weathered than the rest of the box.

That’s right, I forgot you had the roto mat! I would love to find one!

In terms of the handle, I think it is a replacement but I think I have found a correct replacement [emoji41]


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[Rileysan]

Hello, can you or someone post a picture of their side handle on an 8 drawer lower roller. I am not sure if mine is correct? I believe the handle should loop in on itself, not flare out?



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I've not seen that style of handle on a Craftsman roller from any era. My guess is that it was added by a previous owner.

 

[madison069]

Hello, can you or someone post a picture of their side handle on an 8 drawer lower roller. I am not sure if mine is correct? I believe the handle should loop in on itself, not flare out?



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Funny cause I thought mine wasn't factory! I honestly thought you were talking about the side handle but didn't want to point it out incase you didn't see it!

Mine looks like JoCo handle. I was thrown off by the square nuts and thought, naw it couldn't have came from the factory like that.

Guess its the right one!

 

[d42jeep]

A neighbor is going to have to tear down an old storage shed soon. He gave us a tour and I spotted this and was allowed to drag it home. I’m seriously considering replacing the original wire and plug.
-Don

I decided to replace the slightly unsafe wire today and I made a few additional discoveries about the saw. I was going to blow the ancient sawdust out of the box bottom and I noticed some items rattling around inside below a plate. The pictures will tell the story.
-Don

 

[Smokeshow69]

I decided to replace the slightly unsafe wire today and I made a few additional discoveries about the saw. I was going to blow the ancient sawdust out of the box bottom and I noticed some items rattling around inside below a plate. The pictures will tell the story.

-Don

I love that kind of documentation! Nice work!


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[JoCoSawdust]

6 day turn around!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I've got a couple of holes to fill in this set (not including the ever-absent tommy bars) but I'm shelving this while I settle into the hunt.

From 1952 to 1955 Sears offered their 60 piece socket wrench set in one of their long handled carry boxes. I've set this up as a 52 with the Gen 1 boxheads. The set would complete its run with Gen 2 rats.

 

[outofbounds]

I'd say no on the green paint being OEM..if it was sold through Sears. It looks like there's remnants of the rivets for a logo in the oval but the rivets aren't painted. I'd be curious to see a pic of the side handles. I've got an AMD 2d chest from the same era (45-48) that's blue (looks like a repaint) that has oddball side handles on it. They look like nothing I've seen on any Craftsman branded boxes. The front cover was never punched out for rivets to hold a logo. It makes me wonder if AMD ever sold any of these boxes to another supplier without the Craftsman brand. If you get that box please post more pics.

Here's a closer look, JoCo. To my chagrin, no unicorn, but like Brian Riley said, still in good shape. The drawers slide like they are either new, or well serviced & maintained. The Heritage badge looks to have been heisted off of it sometime after a repaint & reattachment, as there are remnants of rivets filling the holes, and the green paint resides behind where it was.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Thanks oob. That's a nice piece!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well guys, I have made some progress on the 10 drawer top chest. I have it all broke down and degreased, slides cleaned and now am starting on body work and some fabrication and fixing some old repairs as needed. You can see brazing repairs in the photos which is often times where the welds fail on these. I will clean it up as best as I can and repaint it and put it to work! I bought the paint color outlaw recommend and shot some on a metal scrap I had. I will compare it to the original paint behind the lock location. I had to remove the rivets in order to straighten the front header panel









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[Smokeshow69]

Couple more shots of the vintage repairs. I will probably leave them since removing and fixing may cause additional damage





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[Smokeshow69]

I know it doesn’t look like much but I was able to get the front header panel much straighter! As you can see from the level, it is almost done! I think someone either stood on this at some point or someone dropped something on the lid when it was locked which dented the lid and pushed out the header panel. The lid is oil canned but I will try my hand at straightening it. I tried to get rileysan to loan me his heritage era body work set some it would be more correct to work on a craftsman box with craftsman tools but no luck[emoji23] I am using my vintage Proto hammers and those sure are nice !




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[Smokeshow69]

Tonight I buzzed down the inside and out side of the lid and the bottom, which someone painted a horrible blue. I have started trying to get rid of the high and low spots on the lid. It had some creases in it and it is missing the inner reinforcement panel so something hit it hard enough to break the welds or someone stood on it [emoji849] it doesn’t look like much but I started to remove the various dents and started in on shrinking the streched metal with a torch and a wet rag! I still have more work to do and am going slowly as this is my first time shrinking metal like this

Before




After





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[outofbounds]

A wrong turn trying to navigate to a country estate sale, led me into a country garage sale, and produced this Heritage logo cantilever box for a song, along with some interesting miscellaneous tools. Arrived later to the estate sale to find some less interesting boxes for 6-7x whet this one cost, turned on my heel and left empty handed from there. Always appreciate the good fortune of a wrong turn....
Were these heritage boxes originally painted all over or is this a respray to this Battleship gray?

 

[JoCoSawdust]

It's a repaint oob but still a nice snag. Those are solid boxes.

 

[outofbounds]

It's a repaint oob but still a nice snag. Those are solid boxes.

Thanks, Scott. As is typical with my collecting methodology, I'm not in very deep at all, and I love the size & look of this cantilever box compared to others.

 

[LesserSon]

If, on Thursday, this is still where I spotted it Sunday, I will make an offer. With two Labradors and a gas stove in the back of my car, could only stop and look.
I thought gold-tone was a brief Crowntop thing - does that mean this 103.24550 is a repaint?
I assumed vintagemachinery would have the owner manual, but no. So not sure of the throat capacity.

Edit/update- nope not there. There had been several items out in the yard with a “for sale” sign. Yard’s empty. Not necessarily gone, though, so I will check next time I’m up there. Just not going to hold my breath.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

"Power Bronze" appears primarily on machines from the late 50s-early 60s. The popular theory is that Sears used that starting in 1957 to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Craftsman brand. While I don't dispute it, I've never seen any proof of it either. I've got a grinder in original Power Bronze paint that's dated 1953. As big as Sears was on advertising schemes, I've been unable to find any mention of this being a celebratory anniversary color in any of their catalogs. If somebody can point me to proof of the 30th anniversary theory, please do.

The catalog lists that saw as having a 12 inch throat LesserSon.

 

[Smokeshow69]

If, on Thursday, this is still where I spotted it Sunday, I will make an offer. With two Labradors and a gas stove in the back of my car, could only stop and look.
I thought gold-tone was a brief Crowntop thing - does that mean this 103.24550 is a repaint?
I assumed vintagemachinery would have the owner manual, but no. So not sure of the throat capacity.

Power bronze paint was offered during heritage era tools and it looks factory!i can’t remember throat depth but it is listed in the catalogs. If you can’t find the exact model owners manual, you should be able to find something very close!


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[JoCoSawdust]

I've had my eye out for an appropriate top chest for the 1949 tool cart and ended up finding something even better for it. The grinder is dated April 1949. I'm not bolting it down not only because I don't want to drill holes in the cart but at 98 pounds I don't think it's going anywhere.

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks, Scott. As is typical with my collecting methodology, I'm not in very deep at all, and I love the size & look of this cantilever box compared to others.

Mine is packed full of Walden tools.
-Don

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Power bronze paint was offered during heritage era tools and it looks factory!i can’t remember throat depth but it is listed in the catalogs. If you can’t find the exact model owners manual, you should be able to find something very close!


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There's some early Crowntops running around in Power Bronze as well Ben. With nothing but black and white catalogs to reference I don't think we'll ever know the exact date range for that color.

 

[bmwrd0]

Picked this up on Saturday:

Its funny, I have one I picked up a year or so ago, missing some knobs and few small bits, and a bit of rust of the case, for not much less money than I paid for this one.

Now I just need to find a stand, or make one I guess...

 

[Smokeshow69]

I've had my eye out for an appropriate top chest for the 1949 tool cart and ended up finding something even better for it. The grinder is dated April 1949. I'm not bolting it down not only because I don't want to drill holes in the cart but at 98 pounds I don't think it's going anywhere.

This is bow down worthy! This grinder is rare but I don’t have to tell you that jo co! The fact it still has it’s quench tray is amazing! I know you have been looking for one for a while. When are you 3D printing the tray?


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[Smokeshow69]

Picked this up on Saturday:

Its funny, I have one I picked up a year or so ago, missing some knobs and few small bits, and a bit of rust of the case, for not much less money than I paid for this one.

Now I just need to find a stand, or make one I guess...

I don’t have a stand but rileysan may have one?


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[Smokeshow69]

There's some early Crowntops running around in Power Bronze as well Ben. With nothing but black and white catalogs to reference I don't think we'll ever know the exact date range for that color.

Correct on the crown tops. I used to have a floor model power bronze 150 that was crown top!


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[FrankLee]

"Power Bronze" appears primarily on machines from the late 50s-early 60s. The popular theory is that Sears used that starting in 1957 to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Craftsman brand. While I don't dispute it, I've never seen any proof of it either. I've got a grinder in original Power Bronze paint that's dated 1953. As big as Sears was on advertising schemes, I've been unable to find any mention of this being a celebratory anniversary color in any of their catalogs. If somebody can point me to proof of the 30th anniversary theory, please do.

The catalog lists that saw as having a 12 inch throat LesserSon.

I've never seen proof of the Power Bronze/Anniversary link either. The earliest reference of that link I've seen is in this 2003 owwm post:

While we are on colors, does anyone have a match, or something close, to
Craftsman's anniversary "goldish" color.

http://www.owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5591&p=22621

There are many later references on owwm.



I've seen enough falsehoods in the catalogs to know that they cannot be relied on for accurate information. The '53 catalog shows a 1/4 hp Dunlap grinder and a 1/3 hp "red tray" grinder. The description for both say they are gray.

Please post pictures of your pre-'56 power bronze machines. It would be nice to either prove or debunk the anniversary theory.