The VISES of Garage Journal

[b.well]

b.well:
That is certainly an oldie. The through the bench top mount and the patent date makes that one definitely well over 100 years old.
For Parker collectors or others like me who just like a variety of makers and styles, that would be a real find. To me, that price is not far out of line if the mounting hardware is still there. The big cast iron wing nut is often damaged or missing entirely.

The seller said he would consider reasonable offers. I would guess it could sell for $125. If anyone is a collector and really wants this 1800s vise I am happy to pick it up and ship it. Just PM me.

 

[Shiftless]

Shipping costs would kill the deal for me. I’m not planning to drive to New York
any time soon.

 

[davethorik]

Picked up this little fellow on my way in to work. Franklin Tool Co. 3" jaws, very compact build. Works, needs a handle.

 

[Smitty]

Thanks to everyone who tallied up their vises and entered the number into the poll I’ve been running the last couple of months. The poll is now closed. It’s remarkable to me how similar the results are comparing numbers from 2018 and the latest one 2020.
Here are the results with bar graphs, numbers, and percentages.

Look at the doubling of the percentage of respondents who have 51-100 vises.
Other categories are remarkably stable year to year.
Also, the number of entries (261 to 265) is almost exactly the same, even though 2 years have passed.

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Shift, thanks for taking the time to update your Poll and moderate it for the last couple of months. It’s always interesting to see the habits of collectors over the years. The main takeaway is that the vise collecting community is still going as strong as ever and will hopefully continue to do so in the future. You did a great job moderating the comment section and persuading people to give detailed accounts of their collections. I can’t wait until 2022 for an update.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Shift, did you see how many new pollers you had versus '18?

 

[Shiftless]

Shift, did you see how many new pollers you had versus '18?

That information is not available. The close matches of the percentages tend to support the assumption that the same guys are responding. But being a very active contributor to the main vise page over many years, I can say that lots of new names have appeared in the last 2 years so I guess that these guys are getting into vises.

So my conclusion is that I just don’t know the answer.

 

[emeraldcoupe]

is this any good? looks pretty hefty. JET branded. on fb marketplace for $50

 

[Shiftless]

I’ve been around vises for a while and I don’t recall ever seeing a JET vise like that. That lettering doesn’t EXACTLY look like an E between the J and the T. (JRT?)

I’d guess it’s an Asian import made to look like a known company name. It’s probably a great user vise.
For $50 if you need a vise, go ahead and buy it but check it out first for cracks, old repairs, and excessive wear.

Many vises like that have chrome plated handles which often flake off. Flaking chrome cuts fingers.

That big dark line on the inside of the static jaw might be just a stain or a casting flaw, but if it’s a crack, it’s a serious flaw and to me a deal killer.

 

[RTM]

The file name is JRT

 

[emeraldcoupe]

The file name is JRT

yeah, when i saved the pic i thought it looked like JRT, but looking more it also looks like JET

 

[Shiftless]

yeah, when i saved the pic i thought it looked like JRT, but looking more it also looks like JET

Does it really matter? It is a vise to use. If it fits your needs, buy it. As I said before, if it’s not damaged or worn out, you can use it for years and probably resell it later for that price if you find a better one or one that better fits your needs.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Does it really matter? It is a vise to use. If it fits your needs, buy it. As I said before, if it’s not damaged or worn out, you can use it for years and probably resell it later for that price if you find a better one or one that better fits your needs.

Definitely what Shiftless said.

 

[emeraldcoupe]

Does it really matter?

i was responding to RTM, what's the problem?

 

[Fierljeppen]

Does it really matter? It is a vise to use. If it fits your needs, buy it. As I said before, if it’s not damaged or worn out, you can use it for years and probably resell it later for that price if you find a better one or one that better fits your needs.

Solid advise, as usual. It could be an adequate user for ($30-$50) whether it's a JET, JRT or BLT.

 

[RTM]

yeah, when i saved the pic i thought it looked like JRT, but looking more it also looks like JET

Oops, i thought you took that off a FS post, and that was their name for it.

 

[toolferone]

I Just got this new to me Wilton 1765 for free! It has never been used and in great shape.

Opps, sorry for the double post.

 

[toolferone]

I Just got this new to me Wilton 1765 for free! It has never been used and in great shape.

 

[va.grouseman]

Looks like JET to me.---So does this one.---earliest ones, made in Japan if memory serves.---Pretty good vises.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pic...oECAEQKA&biw=964&bih=544#imgrc=Xf2gUtzYkgCydM

 

[va.grouseman]

Yep, Toolferone, a 1765 for free bears repeating.

 

[Fierljeppen]

I picked up this vise several years ago, not knowing anything about it's origin. I was just sure that it was a very early (1900's) rare double-swivel vise that I needed in my collection. It seemed to be a quality vise and the only mfg. clue was the stamping on the back plate.

I kept my eye out for more of these vises, trying to find a back plate with more information than mine. And a couple of month's ago, I found one. Then, just recently, I found another one with most of the stamping in very good condition.

With plenty of searchable clues, I discovered it was a late 1950's "Made in Japan" vise distributed by Wisler Western Arms, a gun supply company in San Francisco.

Well, turns out, it's a pretty good electronics soldering vise and with the sky rocketing price of "baby" Wilton's on a Powrarm, it seemed like a good idea to retire mine to a display shelf.

So, if you're looking for a descent electronics soldering vise like mine. Just head over to Harbor Freight with $25 and pickup a brand new clone just like mine.

Word of the day, "adequate Asian vise".

 

[Outlawmws]

I have couple of the suction cup base version of that (sans the markings). Asian (likely Japan) made in the 60's.. I had one I broke when I was a kid - my parents got it for me for Xmas for my model and slot car making and the like.

I like that clamp on version better.

 

[Outlawmws]

BTW, I broke mine over tightening it. The main nut broke out of the marked round plate.

 

[RTM]

I picked up this vise

With plenty of searchable clues, I discovered it was a late 1950's "Made in Japan" vise distributed by Wisler Western Arms, a gun supply company in San Francisco.

Thank you sir for your diligence! I bought one in 2015, with a similar crappy stamping job. I had some speculation as to brands from others, but never anything verifiable. As you’ve heard many times before, thanks for the great research. Far left on the tailgate

Looks like Wisler Western has been around since 1937, here is a link to them selling targets to the city of Sausalito.

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SN19370...-en--20--1--txt-txIN-"wisler+western"-------1

Dang, one sold for $87 last year.

https://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d...-wisler-western-arms-san-francisco-calif.html

 

[Indexmill]

I Just got this new to me Wilton 1765 for free! It has never been used and in great shape.

From where? Whatz the story?

 

[PierceA]

My collection of Parker Vises continues to grow. I purchased the now-blue 978 about a month or so ago, along with a Yost 6" and a Reed late 106/with swivel base.
The above joined my working Reed 204 1/2 and 404 1/2.

But then I found this forum and I'm a sponge for history and knowledge. And have an easily turned-on 'collector gene'.

So, last weekend I hit a jackpot. I went to a garage/estate sale and didn't see any 'guy-stuff', but asked about tools. workshop 'stuff'. The response was: we haven't touched that part of the house yet, but would you like to see it? I couldn't say yes fast enough !

Here are a few of the vises I purchased and there are still a few more that I will go pick up.

 

[PierceA]

A few more photos.

PierceA

 

[Shiftless]

Pierce A.:
Wow, you hit the jackpot! What a gold mine you stumbled into.

Based on your screen name, I’m betting you have an old car or 2. Are you going to start a thread about those?

 

[Shiftless]

Who else was bidding on that 2 inch vise from a manufacturer that hardly any body ever heard of? I got it.

2 inch Franklin


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[PierceA]

Well, I could start a thread about my car collection and ongoing restorations of the cars. BUT where? Certainly not on this thread. And I'm so involved in the Pierce Arrow Society and Pierce Arrow Foundation already, that my time spent oh those websites and forums is a significant part of every day's awake time..

I can post a few images..

PierceA

 

[Shiftless]

Wow !

Thanks for posting those gorgeous photos.

 

[gearhead1960]

PierceA,

You get a big you **** for the goldmine you found. You need to cross post on the 2020 Garage Sale Thread.

BTW, I was going to go to the Pierce Arrow Museum in Buffalo last year, but it was closed when we were there....

 

[Shiftless]

PierceA,

You get a big you **** for the goldmine you found. You need to cross post on the 2020 Garage Sale Thread.

BTW, I was going to go to the Pierce Arrow Museum in Buffalo last year, but it was closed when we were there....

Definitely cross post in the Garage Sale thread

 

[va.grouseman]

PierceA, is that Charles P. on the HALL'S PATENT a #94?---Those are well sought after sir.---Very nice collection.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Well, I could start a thread about my car collection and ongoing restorations of the cars. BUT where?

Most common place to show off cars on GJ is the Garage Gallery up on The Tools board.

Wow !

Nice vises, too!

 

[va.grouseman]

Here's a real nice 202 for the serious Reed collector.---Maybe he will accept Bitcoin.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/REED-202-V...577017?hash=item5db15c55b9:g:dp8AAOSwmkBfFugO

 

[DotRat]

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[DotRat]

Well I came across this last night and ended up picking it up after work. Had no idea it was a Yost until the guy walked outside with it. Also couldnt tell how big it was from his pictures either. It has obvious "repair" work done to it at one point in its life. Any idea on a date of this guy? Only out $50 as of now for it.

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Just picked up one of these Yost yesterday - almost identical with the number 74 behind that removable jaw. I'm here trying to get a date as well.

 

[Crack The Sky]

Hello everyone! and greetings from England!
Im Mark, i buy and sell vintage Record vices all over the world and a few weeks ago i had the opportunity to buy a very unusal vice, a vintage DOHM wilson swivel jaw vice.
I have been scouring the internet to find some information on this particular vice. it is completely intact and i've given it a clean to remove all the rust. It has a brass main screw nut and i have never seen that before.
I will try to attach some pictures for everyone.

Any help or information is greatly appreciated.

P.S. if anybody is in need of Record vice help, feel free to ask and i'll do my best to help

 

[PghJKB]

Hello everyone! and greetings from England!
Im Mark, i buy and sell vintage Record vices all over the world and a few weeks ago i had the opportunity to buy a very unusal vice, a vintage DOHM wilson swivel jaw vice.
I have been scouring the internet to find some information on this particular vice. it is completely intact and i've given it a clean to remove all the rust. It has a brass main screw nut and i have never seen that before.
I will try to attach some pictures for everyone.

Any help or information is greatly appreciated.

P.S. if anybody is in need of Record vice help, feel free to ask and i'll do my best to help

Mark
Greetings to You and Welcome to the forum.

Here are two patents granted to Mr. Wilson for rotating jaw vises(as we spell it here).

Here are the drawings:

I cannot locate the URL, but I do have the full patent scans. PM me with your email and I will send the .pdfs to you.

Cheers!
PghJKB

 

[Old Radar]

Am I missing something or is the vise missing something?

The rotating jaw is essentially a sprocket but I don't see anything that is designed to engage the cogs. So is the jaw designed to rotate freely and engage the work piece at whatever angle is required? If so, what are the cogs for? If not, what is supposed to engage the cogs?

The only other thing I can think of is the rotating jaw is rotated manually against the work piece to which ever cutout best fits against it. Is that recessed hex bolt on the left rear intended to lock the jaw?