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near the top right of the screen, right after the amazon search bar, click the flag drop-down and pick your language setting. if you allow cookies, it's sticky between sessions. it's not perfect, but it's good enough for buying tools.

and if you don't mind google knowing everything about you, the google translate app lets you just point the camera at an image and it translates on-screen. works pointing it at the computer screen, too. more fun with the product in hand, though...

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Question about Koken spark plug sockets: are the standard and Zeal versions the same internally — i.e., they both have the retention spring and the brass collar?

Any reason NOT to buy the Zeal version? (I don't have any engines that need the extra clearance, but the Zeals seem easier to get.)
 
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Question about Koken spark plug sockets: are the standard and Zeal versions the same internally — i.e., they both have the retention spring and the brass collar?

Any reason NOT to buy the Zeal version? (I don't have any engines that need the extra clearance, but the Zeals seem easier to get.)

They both have the retention spring. Not sure about the brass bush.

In theory the regular tools might be a bit longer lasting. In practice, unless you’re a pro and removing plugs every day, I doubt you would notice.

The big difference is the variety of tools. In the regular line there’s a huge selection available, including universal and “extended” - a socket and extension in one piece.

The latter are my personal favourites, they prevent you pulling the extension from the socket, rather than the socket from the plug, but I don’t think they available in the Z Series / Zeal range.
 

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My two cents regarding the Vessel / Felo socket sets and COO...

Vessel / Felo are both primarily screwdriver/bit manufacturers (ok, yes, Vessel does have a wider range, including pneumatic tools). They don't have a history of making socketry items (sockets/ratchets/extensions/related accessories).

When Vessel came out with those sockets sets in 2017, my instinct was Taiwan. Same opinion with the Felo ones. I agree, Measured Twice and Avenging, that it doesn't make sense for such companies to invest in a factory to produce what are essentially non-core products for them.

The ratchets that come in both sets are sourced from Taiwan, with their respective handles pressed on.

When you see stampings like "Cr-V" or "Chrome Vanadium", it throws a red flag for me. To me, that indicates an imported product.

Looking at the sockets, the overly pronounced flank-drive profile, along with the sintered look on the base of the broaching makes me think Taiwan as well.

The socket sets may not come shipped to Vessel / Felo with the handles. So, the final assembly/touches would be performed in their respective facilities for press-fitting their own handles.



With the Vessel T-handle socket set...
Pretty surprised to hear that there's no ball detents machined to the sockets. That to me sounds like some really OLD stock sockets. And it could very well be Japanese origin (I have some old Japanese 1/4 sockets without the detents machined).
Perhaps Vessel has a whole bunch of NOS sockets that they just want to get rid of for cheap! :lol:
 

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If anyone is wanting to find out the OEM of the "Toyota" branded hammer, it's "OH Industrial" that makes them. I hadn't heard of a hammer manufacturer called "One Hand"....until I realized it was Amazon/Google's sometimes dubious translation. :lol:

http://www.ohnet.co.jp/index.html














Has anyone ordered from Rakuten lately, using their Rakuten Global Express shipping service? How did it go?
 
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Google has discontinued the sync between Drive and Photos and this caused me some grief but im now up to speed.. so here are the rest of the pics for the wooden handles i made for my Tsubosan files.

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my temporary workbench (being careful not to damage the Mrs. Table)
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semi-finished pieces
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i tried the cross-hatch pattern on one handle, it was tedious work and i realised it wouldnt be comfortable on a file handle which will see long hours of usage. So i didnt do it on the other handles.
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set the files into the handles with some epoxy
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finished them with one last round of sanding after cleaning up the epoxy
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finally applied some linseed oil (2-3 coats actually)
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This was my first ever attempt at making wooden handles so im pretty pleased with how they came out :)
 

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My two cents regarding the Vessel / Felo socket sets and COO...

Vessel / Felo are both primarily screwdriver/bit manufacturers (ok, yes, Vessel does have a wider range, including pneumatic tools). They don't have a history of making socketry items (sockets/ratchets/extensions/related accessories).

When Vessel came out with those sockets sets in 2017, my instinct was Taiwan. Same opinion with the Felo ones. I agree, Measured Twice and Avenging, that it doesn't make sense for such companies to invest in a factory to produce what are essentially non-core products for them.

The ratchets that come in both sets are sourced from Taiwan, with their respective handles pressed on.

When you see stampings like "Cr-V" or "Chrome Vanadium", it throws a red flag for me. To me, that indicates an imported product.

Looking at the sockets, the overly pronounced flank-drive profile, along with the sintered look on the base of the broaching makes me think Taiwan as well.

The socket sets may not come shipped to Vessel / Felo with the handles. So, the final assembly/touches would be performed in their respective facilities for press-fitting their own handles.

I think you are 100 % correct.

My, probably one cents worth, is that you don’t actually need to do very much to mark something “Made in Germany”. Just some fitting and finishing on an otherwise imported product counts.

Don’t know what the regs are when some parts are domestic and some are imported, but I think that’s the situation.

I’m surprised Felo don’t find a German manufacturer to produce some sockets for them. Same thing with Vessel, it would be a much nicer set with some KTC sockets or suchlike.
 
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...I hadn't heard of a hammer manufacturer called "One Hand"....until I realized it was Amazon/Google's sometimes dubious translation. :lol: ...

I learned "One Hand" for OH years ago from the Toyota Land Cruiser community. Can't vouch for its accuracy or origin, except to say it wasn't Amazon/Google that led to the first use in this thread.

Apologies for any confusion.
 

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Google has discontinued the sync between Drive and Photos and this caused me some grief but im now up to speed.. so here are the rest of the pics for the wooden handles i made for my Tsubosan files.

can't see your google pics, sorry
 

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can't see your google pics, sorry

My apologies, Google seems to be messing around with me .... hotlinking pics on this forum directly from Google photos used to work perfectly well some time ago.. not sure what has changed since ?

I can see the below image on my screen, can the others see it too ?

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My apologies, Google seems to be messing around with me .... hotlinking pics on this forum directly from Google photos used to work perfectly well some time ago.. not sure what has changed since ?

I can see the below image on my screen, can the others see it too ?

You can see it because you are probably already logged into Google. It just shows the blue icon indicating a missing image for me. If I right click on the icon and select "open in a new tab", it takes me to a Google login screen.
 

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Recent purchase, I assume they are NOS.
Handle looks similar to my Cobolt.
 

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I'm using one of the Vessel magnetics at work. Seams to be functionally identical to Anex, just a bit prettier. Using the outside to magnetize drivers works fine.

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I have an assortment of Koken and Koken Zeal sockets.
I thought I would provide my thought on why one might not want to buy the Koken Zeal product as this is one drawback I have found.

The Koken Zeal sockets are made to such a tight tolerance that they will not fit on a nut or bolt if it has slight damage to the drive area. If the corners or top edges have been rolled over, such as by an adjustable wrench on the corners, or hammer on the top edge then the socket will not fit.
I use my normal Koken sockets a lot more, and the Koken Zeal sockets are only used when I need low profile or when I know the nuts and bolts are new and undamaged.

They would be great for those working on internal components of engines / suspension or other sensitive areas where you know and want the nuts and bolts to remain as new.
 

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I'm looking for one of those Japanese fine cut hand saws. Don't need anything crazy big or expensive, just good quality for general use. Any suggestions?
 

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I'm looking for one of those Japanese fine cut hand saws. Don't need anything crazy big or expensive, just good quality for general use. Any suggestions?

Shark --> https://www.sharkcorp.com/

Check Fleet Farm. I bought mine years ago from Amazon. Amazon used to sell a lot of them but it looks like most of them are from 3rd party sellers now. You might Google for more sources.

https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/shark-saw-9-1-2-in-finecut-double-pullsaw/0000000019867

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004TBPU/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004TBQ2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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I'm looking for one of those Japanese fine cut hand saws. Don't need anything crazy big or expensive, just good quality for general use. Any suggestions?

perhaps a 180-200mm Ryoba saw from a brand like Gyokucho or Suizan.

I used to have a Shark one (not sure if it was the same one just mentioned by someone else) and it seemed fine enough.

Can also look at "bear saws" from companies like Vaughan

can also check out Silky stuff.
 
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perhaps a 180-200mm Ryoba saw from a brand like Gyokucho or Suizan.

can also check out Silky stuff.

Suizan looks pretty popular. I like the thought of a Ryoba for flush cut and general purpose, and they have one with a brace that is a lot thinner and more precise (blade won't bend like the Ryoba) that looks like fun for detailed cuts.

I like the Z-Saw ryoba quite a bit. Makes pretty fine cuts even so it looks like straight out of the cheap tool corner.

https://www.rockler.com/z-saw-s-250-double-edge-ryoba-saw-and-replacement-blade

Yeah I don't need anything fancy, but knowing I am buying a tool that "looks" cheap isn't too appealing!! haha
 

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Suizan looks pretty popular. I like the thought of a Ryoba for flush cut and general purpose, and they have one with a brace that is a lot thinner and more precise (blade won't bend like the Ryoba) that looks like fun for detailed cuts.

i don't own any Suizan, but I've seen some reviews where people say they're pretty good. Said by some to be a little bit less good than Gyokucho. But I don't own both to compare personally. Probably either one is fine for most people. Suizan has better availability on Amazon US which is nice.

Are you referring to a Dozuki? Or do they have some sort of hybrid? If you're referring to a Dozuki, those would be really nice as long as you're not trying to cut too deep, since the brace will obviously keep it from cutting "through" material.
 

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Are you referring to a Dozuki? Or do they have some sort of hybrid? If you're referring to a Dozuki, those would be really nice as long as you're not trying to cut too deep, since the brace will obviously keep it from cutting "through" material.

Yeah that looks like an interesting saw for fine or detailed work. I really don't have any fine woodworking saws atm, and know having a few around would be handy!
 

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The Anex items I bought are all inferior to Vessel.
Vessel seems to be premium.
Anex is middle of the road from my experience.

Which Anex tools have you not been impressed with? Not much experience with them myself.
 

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Got me my Toyota hammers thanks to 4xdog. Delivery date was expected to be next Wed but they showed up today. They shipped from Japan yesterday.
 

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Got me my Toyota hammers thanks to 4xdog. Delivery date was expected to be next Wed but they showed up today. They shipped from Japan yesterday.

Mine came yesterday, also early, and with the same thanks. It is a beautifully simple, well made (in Japan, of course) tool. 16oz head.
 

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I think you are 100 % correct.

My, probably one cents worth, is that you don’t actually need to do very much to mark something “Made in Germany”. Just some fitting and finishing on an otherwise imported product counts.

Don’t know what the regs are when some parts are domestic and some are imported, but I think that’s the situation.

I’m surprised Felo don’t find a German manufacturer to produce some sockets for them. Same thing with Vessel, it would be a much nicer set with some KTC sockets or suchlike.


Yeah, agreed. Felo and Vessel could both procure from their respective domestic markets for the socketry items.
But, I believe they are just "testing the waters" to see how their customers react to something they don't normally sell, without investing much time and money. I suspect they could have been approached by Taiwanese OEM/ODM's with an offer (or vise versa), making it much easier on their end to promote these new products offerings.









Recent purchase, I assume they are NOS.
Handle looks similar to my Cobolt.


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:wtf::eyecrazy: Part of me doesn't want to believe what I'm seeing. A rather blatant copy it seems, of Knipex grips, by a (now defunct) Japanese manufacturer. I want to believe they are cheap Chinese knockoffs, using Aigo branding and Knipex features to sell to unsuspecting buyers. :dunno:
 

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:wtf::eyecrazy: Part of me doesn't want to believe what I'm seeing. A rather blatant copy it seems, of Knipex grips, by a (now defunct) Japanese manufacturer. I want to believe they are cheap Chinese knockoffs, using Aigo branding and Knipex features to sell to unsuspecting buyers. :dunno:

To add...

I tried searching for other examples of Aigo pliers, but I had no luck. Which leads me to believe that they may not be authentic Aigo tools. I'm not an expert on Aigo, but I recall them being a manufacturer of wrenches, adjustable wrenches, and probably one of the few (maybe only?) maker of locking pliers in Japan. They went brankrupt in 2011.
 

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I had a fellow GJ'r PM me with a couple questions. We exchanged replies and we agreed it might be benefitial to include it in the thread, so here it is. The questions concerned who I consider is the top level for Japanese tool quality, ie. Ko-ken, KTC, Nepros, etc and thoughts on ANEX tools:



I'd place KTC's Nepros line at the top. With form factor and surface finish preferences put aside, and strictly speaking of the utility and durability of the tools themselves, I have no doubt that they are top-tier. The manufacturing takes place in the same plant between both KTC and Nepros brands, but the manufacturing processes between the two are quite different through it's various production stages. Even the base material, the tool-steel stock that is used on Nepros' socketry stuff is different from the regular KTC line. If you include final product packaging into the "quality" equation, then Nepros probably takes the spot for the most over-spec'd hand tool manufacturer in the world.

When you think globally, Nepros' product lineup isn't too large however, so perhaps that does limit their placement on the podium, when compared with some other top-tier manufacturers of the world.

Ranking of Ko-ken, KTC, TONE....the big three of Japan.

From the perspective of supplying the various industries/trades, I'd place KTC and TONE above Ko-ken. KTC/TONE quite simply offers a more well-rounded range of tools, making them more of a one-stop shopping experience. I like to place KTC above TONE for the fact that TONE imports a lot more tools compared to KTC. In addition, unlike KTC, TONE isn't forthcoming when it comes to product COO. KTC is transparent with where their tools come from, and I applaud that. Of course, this isn't a concern for many out there, so that's a subjective matter.

Having said that, they are competitors, so they each offer things that the other doesn't have. In general, KTC is a lot more geared toward the automotive industry, while TONE is geared toward the heavy industries.

As you may already be aware, Ko-ken is very much a specialist in socketry items. Their target market isn't as broad as KTC/TONE. The vast majority of their products are made in-house though, so that makes them a rather special manufacturer (to me at least), and I like supporting such small companies. It's an easy choice for me to support them because they have continually met or exceeded my expectations over the course of a dozen years. I know what to expect as they manufacture with little to no production/dimensional variances....meaning you can pretty much expect to see a product replacement that matches what you had bought years ago, with little to no changes to dimension/appearances (this attribute isn't necessarily an industry norm).

Regarding ANEX tools, I have a handful of things from them and for the most part, they are good.

I haven't had any issues with their stubby 1/4" bits and various power bits over the years (cross-recess, Torx, In-hex (both standard and ball types).
I had a 1/4 flex bit shaft that lasted about 6 years of hard use.
I have a couple of their impact-ready 1/4 flex shafts and they seem alright (the bit locking sleeve is a bit cheapy I admit).
Got their smaller inter-changeable head craft hammer which is great for around-the-home stuff.
I like their Mag-catches as well...very handy.
Their ultra low-profile + / - wrenches have saved me a lot of grief on a couple occasions.
Got a small assortment of their trim clip removers which I've been quite happy with.
I got a couple of their bit ratchets (Taiwanse made) and although the backdrag was a little high (prior to me modifying the spring), for their small size, they have surprised me with the torque they can handle.
The only thing I cared very little for was a set of their 1/4 nut runners/box bits. Looks like something from the bargain bin aisle. Nothing special on those.

All in all though, ANEX tools have served me quite good.
 

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I had a fellow GJ'r PM me with a couple questions. We exchanged replies and we agreed it might be benefitial to include it in the thread, so here it is. The questions concerned who I consider is the top level for Japanese tool quality, ie. Ko-ken, KTC, Nepros, etc and thoughts on ANEX tools:

Koken is the only of the three that is not publicly traded on the stock market.

They are the quintessential Japanese company; generational and specialized.
 

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well that's good that Koken isn't public, for us anyway. In typically Japanese fashion i'd expect them to continue their strategy for many many years.
 

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To add...

I tried searching for other examples of Aigo pliers, but I had no luck. Which leads me to believe that they may not be authentic Aigo tools. I'm not an expert on Aigo, but I recall them being a manufacturer of wrenches, adjustable wrenches, and probably one of the few (maybe only?) maker of locking pliers in Japan. They went brankrupt in 2011.


got these from Thailand handtool forum.
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forum link http://www.thaihandtool.com/forum/17/405-aigo-japan-the-obsolete-one?start=30://

also this website which have same pics https://uytit.com/category/hand-tools-and-pliers/

I have Aigo locking plier, adjustable wrench, combination wrench and socket set. Would love to get Koken, but it's hard to find here, found a few but price is more than three times the Aigo set.
 

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Not sure if anyone has noticed, but palmac.net has been populating the Koken section of their site. When I ordered the 1/4 drive Zeal sockets a few weeks ago there was a LOT less on the stie than there is today. They appear to have almost the whole Zeal line up though some of it is a bit disorganized. I was happy with my first order and will be ordering again next week.
 

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People have mentioned that the drive levers of some Japanese ratchet brands are "backwards". The only lever-style ratchets I have are Proto; are Japanese ratchets typically the opposite of Proto's operation?
 

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People have mentioned that the drive levers of some Japanese ratchet brands are "backwards". The only lever-style ratchets I have are Proto; are Japanese ratchets typically the opposite of Proto's operation?

Ko-ken is opposite Proto.
 

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Yeah that looks like an interesting saw for fine or detailed work. I really don't have any fine woodworking saws atm, and know having a few around would be handy!

I use both Japanese and western saws. Most of the popular Japanese saws sold in the US have impulse-hardened teeth, which makes them super hard and also not sharpenable. So when they get dull, you replace the blade.

These cut superbly due to the very narrow kerf allowed by pulling versus pushing the saw. However, I have had many broken sawteeth when using on hardwoods. Super-hard teeth also means more brittle, as in not tempering after quench hardening. Sticking with softwoods, the teeth last a very long time.
 
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