The VISES of Garage Journal

[Outlawmws]

Awesome stand Joe! and I love what you did with the Heuer!

 

[Bill Vise]

Parker Catalog #6

The 22x page says parts are interchangeable with Superior parts.

akasrick

Is the Parker catalog #6 available online?

 

[ChefRex]

I recently restored this Heuer Front vise. Made in Germany between 1936 and 1940 (an interesting time to say the least) these Heuer Vises are just gorgeous tools.

First they are fully forged, not cast, so they ring like a bell and are as strong as hell. The jaws aren't cast in place, they are just part of the forged dynamic jaw.

The spindle handle is held in place with 15 6mm ball bearing, nothing else.

This model Heuer has a solid forged round dynamic jaw base that is 1.5" in diameter. Within the base of the static body is a cut out (front and back) which is designed to accommodate a strip of F5 felt (yeah its a thing...I took two days learning all about felt). The felt is soaked in my synthetic grease and it wipes and lubricates the slide as the vise opens and shuts , not allowing contaminants to enter the body cavity.

These are GREAT vises and while they don't have the heft of a 6" Athol, because they are forged, they do not need the weight for strength.

Sexxxy!

 

[sgtgeo]

Drove 3.5hrs today to pickup a Craftsman 5197 for $100

Guy was also selling some other vise but he was holding the craftsman for me.

Some guy shows up to purchase the other vise. Seller thinks he’s me and sells him the craftsman he previously told the guy was sold.

The other guy was shady and very disingenuous. The seller realized what happened and felt pretty bad, but that didn’t make my 7hr drive any better.

I hope the guy who swindled me and the seller drops that vise on his foot

 

[va.grouseman]

Sgtgeo, man I really feel for you.---I know that left you bummed, especially the last 3 1/2 hrs.---If there is anything to KARMA, the shyster is in for a very bad day.---That's pretty dirty, playing your character and preying on the confusion.---That was a really good deal but that won't be the last one.---Just stay in the game and keep your eyes peeled.---Good hunting.

 

[akasrick]

Is the Parker catalog #6 available online?

It maybe lost to the vise community as click and download or read..
https://www.si.edu/object/trade-catalogs-vises-and-accessories-ratchet-drills-slide-strengthener-solid-steel-bar-roller:siris_sil_507319
It has their received stamp in it.

akasrick

Scratch the above:
https://archive.org/details/CharlesParkerCoCatalogNo6

akasrick

 

[lowdowndodge]

This will kill a few hours.....

https://archive.org/details/internationaltoolcataloglibrary

 

[Shiftless]

This will kill a few hours.....

https://archive.org/details/internationaltoolcataloglibrary

Thanks for posting that link.
I like comic understatement... ( a FEW hours...)

 

[joe.striper]

Even for a large sum of money It would be hard for me to part with that stand,It being adjustable and antique also makes It pretty hard to replace,which practical use would be considered . But that's just my view on some things that's hard replaceable.

Eddie I agree 100%....BUT...I have this one.. Parker Die Sinkers vise on a custom base from the JJ Adams factory in Worcester MA. I mean who needs Ginger when you have MaryAnn?(This is a reference only us old guys will get)

 

[Shiftless]

Joe:
I agree on your choice of vise stands.
As a fellow old timer, I got your reference right away. Here is a hint for those who missed that era.

 

[lowdowndodge]

Thanks for posting that link.
I like comic understatement... ( a FEW hours...)

No joke that is a rabbit hole of all rabbit holes....

 

[RTM]

And that isn't the only rabbit hole. There is another library for manuals, but my connection won't let me find it. When you search for manuals, you get 750k choices, but there are 50 pages of filters to trim that down, and I can't get that to load right now. Will try to add the link later.

You can drill down from here into various sub genres of manuals.

https://archive.org/details/manuals

 

[Outlawmws]

Mary Ann all the way!

 

[dkroth]

Mary Ann all the way!

Of course!

But after the entire internet has had their way with her for the past 50 years... I'm going with Ginger. In the white, beaded evening dress.





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[Outlawmws]

Of course!

But after the entire internet has had their way with her for the past 50 years... I'm going with Ginger. In the white, beaded evening dress.

Nah, 50 years later Mary Ann more than ever:

 

[Eddie H]

joe.striper that's one **** stand,I see your point now and yes I got the refrerance,was a huge Gilligan's Island fan growing up.

 

[pelletman]

Anyone know anything about these? Yale 150. Czech I understand. Are the lockdown bolts correct? Basically just carriage bolts securing it to the base. How does the screw come out? Thanks!


Edit: YORK not YALE! Doh...

 

[Isaiah6113]

Anyone know anything about these? Yale 150. Czech I understand. Are the lockdown bolts correct? Basically just carriage bolts securing it to the base. How does the screw come out? Thanks!

Lots written on York here. There’s a York History thread and a York Vice Restorations thread. Essentially what you have is a proto-Wilton (not Proto the manufacturer!). Lots to discover about those.

I too have a York 150, and an 80, and a 100.

Matthew A.


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[joe.striper]

Well I finally got my Bugatti vise in yesterday. What a beauty!

Here is a short history: Bugatti made these vises for his factory where they manufactured the Bugatti cars. He was dissatisfied with the conmercial vises available at the time in France. He designed and built them himself. He officially made 24 but Ive been told there might have been around 30. All were 4".

An original Bugatti vise runs 20-30k.

Today a small Bugatti restoration company in England, Tula Engineering, https://tula-bug.co.uk/, is making exact replicas of the original Bugatti vises. In addition they make a 2" Bugatti vise. Its not a replica because Bugatti never made a 2" vise. None the less it is an exact copy of the 4" just scaled down. Tula sells these vises for $5,000 for the 4" and $2,350 for the 2".

I acquired this by trading a very rare vise out of my collection plus cash.

In the last picture you can see my Bugatti positioned across from my 1894 Lightning Vise. Two exceptionally rare and beautiful vises. Enjoy

 

[wrenchguy]

Kinda of mic drop here!! You don't say which 1 you have Joe?

 

[Shiftless]

joe:
Let me be among the first to congratulate you on the acquisition of a Bugatti vise. That one is at the top of the wish list for many of us collectors. It’s a beauty and will clearly become one of the centerpieces of a fantastic collection. It’s making me want to plan a trip to see it in person someday.

Is anybody going to nickname that one a baby Bugatti ?

 

[dpr64]

Has anyone run across a current place/person that makes or sells the foil/aluminum logo plates for the older Wilton series? I have a 1980 746 Machinist vise and I think it was one of the Napa Balkamp ones made by Wilton... The finish on the vise appears to have been gray...

 

[WAS Jr]

Amazing! What is the purpose of the device on top, just behind the fixed jaw? And why such a small anvil on the top end, any guesses?

I'm starting to realize what league the serious vise collectors are playing in............
Bill S

 

[KMScott]

Has anyone run across a current place/person that makes or sells the foil/aluminum logo plates for the older Wilton series? I have a 1980 746 Machinist vise and I think it was one of the Napa Balkamp ones made by Wilton... The finish on the vise appears to have been gray...

dp, This site sells those foil labels. they actually are vinyl stickers. Look HERE.

Hey guys, I have been working with the new owner ( Mallory) and Mary the Machinist for the last three months and did not realize how hard it was to build vise parts. I am teaching Mary the right way to build jaws and Mallory the right way to treat customers. I'll add the sites to my sig line if anyone needs vise parts. I wish both girls the best of luck. Maybe I can talk Mallory in to giving GJ members a discount.

 

[Outlawmws]

Holy Crud Joe! Pheeenommminal!

When do you bolt it down and start using it?

 

[ChefRex]

Innneed of some schooling, started to disassemble the Reed I picked up this weekend, what I have seen has shown a window to access the collar that holds the main screw in,

I have no window, does this front collar need to be removed?
Thanks in advance.


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[Outlawmws]

That's a split collar, and should also have set screw(s) to hold it...

And yes after the set screw is out, then tap it CCW.

 

[ChefRex]

That's a split collar, and should also have set screw(s) to hold it...

And yes after the set screw is out, then tap it CCW.

Where would the set screw(s) be located? I see none in the pic, and too lazy to run out again to look.

 

[Outlawmws]

That would be because your pics don't show them, so you will have to, won't you?

 

[ChefRex]

That would be because your pics don't show them, so you will have to, won't you?

Out I go, again.

 

[Boomer9275]

If that Reed was being dumped, you either did a fantastic restoration or your work has more money than brains! Either way it's a beauty!

It was in rough shape. Sat outside for the last 5 years I had been there. I made a new handle blasted and did some body work.

 

[ChefRex]

And yes it is there, slot is nice and pristine. The split collar look abused at all to you?

Thanks again!

 

[joe.striper]

Amazing! What is the purpose of the device on top, just behind the fixed jaw? And why such a small anvil on the top end, any guesses?

I'm starting to realize what league the serious vise collectors are playing in............
Bill S

Oiler

 

[joe.striper]

Kinda of mic drop here!! You don't say which 1 you have Joe?

I have the 2"

 

[pelletman]

Lots written on York here. There’s a York History thread and a York Vice Restorations thread. Essentially what you have is a proto-Wilton (not Proto the manufacturer!). Lots to discover about those.

I too have a York 150, and an 80, and a 100.

Matthew A.


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DOH! No wonder I couldn't find anything on it! I can't read!

 

[Shiftless]

ChefRex:
That split nut looks damaged to me. The red arrow points to the area I’d be concerned about. It’s risky to take that out.
The black arrow points to what I’d expect to see on a split nut.
Maybe you don’t REALLY need to disassemble it to clean it up. If that split nut falls apart, I don’t know where you’d get a replacement.

I had a Reed once with that split nut arrangement. The previous owner evidently had trouble so he just welded it up tight. Not cool!

 

[dpr64]

dp, This site sells those foil labels. they actually are vinyl stickers. Look HERE.

Hey guys, I have been working with the new owner ( Mallory) and Mary the Machinist for the last three months and did not realize how hard it was to build vise parts. I am teaching Mary the right way to build jaws and Mallory the right way to treat customers. I'll add the sites to my sig line if anyone needs vise parts. I wish both girls the best of luck. Maybe I can talk Mallory in to giving GJ members a discount.

Any of the older style ones out there?

 

[ChefRex]

ChefRex:
That split nut looks damaged to me. The red arrow points to the area I’d be concerned about. It’s risky to take that out.
The black arrow points to what I’d expect to see on a split nut.
Maybe you don’t REALLY need to disassemble it to clean it up. If that split nut falls apart, I don’t know where you’d get a replacement.

I had a Reed once with that split nut arrangement. The previous owner evidently had trouble so he just welded it up tight. Not cool!

I had concern of that area, looks like someone tried to remove it without removing the set screw as all 4 points are rounded over.
I'll assess it better tonight and move accordingly
I may have to live with some freeplay.

 

[PghJKB]

I had concern of that area, looks like someone tried to remove it without removing the set screw as all 4 points are rounded over.
I'll assess it better tonight and move accordingly
I may have to live with some freeplay.

A while back, IIRC Joe Striper had a split nut made by Kevin Scott. Kevin may be able to give you some advice as to what to do for a replacement. (Kevin is "Out of the Business, but maybe his successors can help.)

PghJKB

 

[mikeswrenches]

ChefRex, you shouldn’t have to "live with some freeplay". If you loosen the set screw that holds the collar in position and then tap the collar CW you should be able to get the freeplay where you want it. Look up patent no. 2127008. It gives you a good idea of what things look like.

Mike