WIFI SIGNAL problems

[3rdgendslmech]

A few months back Verizon sent us an upgraded router to replace the old one we were using. Didn't have to return the old one so I figured I could put it down in my pole barn since it'd be nice to have internet out there. I buried about 110 feet of 3/4 pex I had laying around to get rid of it when I ran the electric.
Today I finally got around to running RG6 out there. There was a 3 way split right by the electric meter and a box that verizon has. I swapped that out with a 4 way, crimped on 2 connectors and everything worked fine.....or so I thought.
After about 2-3 hours my wife started complaining about the internet cutting out and in. I noticed it once or twice while i was in the barn listening to Pandora. After dinner I was down there, lost internet again and I text my wife and she said it was gone at the house also. So I turned off the router in the barn and a few seconds later she said it came back on in the house. So far as of right now it hasn't dropped out.
We got a pretty good amount of rain last night and it was pretty breezy today but I'm convinced it's something I did.
Any thoughts

 

[Showkey]

One possible issue the device in the home is connected to the old router in the barn.

 

[3rdgendslmech]

So I was reading about if you run a hardwire connection (ethernet cable) between 2 routers you have to turn off DHCP? Do I have to do the same just to have wifi out there?

 

[Showkey]

https://www.lifewire.com/connect-routers-on-a-home-network-818060

Some one that likes the multiple router will come along soon and tell you the setup or changes that might help.

I just run a mesh router with base and several satellites so it seamless and covers all the buildings and area.

 

[PCustoms]

You say router, but mention you ran RG6 and installed a 4 way splitter.

Are you running 2 cable modems on the same service?

 

[Terry D]

I Don't believe you can have 2 modems off the same service. You would need to get a Cat 5 or Cat 6 or even fiber optic from your router in your house to the barn. Then you could put a access point in the barn.

 

[jlv03]

Is this a MoCa adapter? If so, sounds like you have a DHCP conflict. You'll need to get the old adapter setup in Access Point (AP) mode, if possible.

What is the model number of the routers you have in place (old and new)?

 

[3rdgendslmech]

I fixed it! So yeah a quick phone call to my father in law who retired from Verizon got me straight. Basically he called me a big dummy ( he didn't really ) but yeah you can't run 2 different wifi routers from the same cable line. So he left me a range extender about a year or 2 ago that I found this morning and hooked it up and after about 10 minutes I'm back in business.
Thanks guys......I'm a heavy equipment mechanic not a fiber optic tech lol

 

[Git]

You can run two different routers, but you need to set the second one up in 'bridge' mode or whatever they call it for that devices. Basically you don't want two devices handing out DHCP requests, so it's not really routing it is just an access point

 

[PCustoms]

Stop calling your modem/router combo a router!

You can run multiple routers

You CANNOT run 2 modems.

 

[dogdog]

Stop calling your modem/router combo a router!

You can run multiple routers

You CANNOT run 2 modems.

....... are you trying to be his FIL ?

 

[chinboys]

cascade the second router off the first one... one of the hub ports from the new wifi router to the "in" port (the port that is normally hooked to the fiber or cable modem)of the old router.

Hopefully, you didn't name the two routers with the same SSID.
and definitely don't use the same or iterations of wifi passwords either.

is your cat 6 wire waterproof? and you aren't running any AC or DC lines in the Pex conduit. Them twisted pairs wires can lay next to each other but anything else with current will mess them up. Also under 100 meters maximum length too.

 

[PCustoms]

....... are you trying to be his FIL ?

No.

I'm trying to avoid post like this:

cascade the second router off the first one... one of the hub ports from the new wifi router to the "in" port (the port that is normally hooked to the fiber or cable modem)of the old router.

Hopefully, you didn't name the two routers with the same SSID.
and definitely don't use the same or iterations of wifi passwords either.

is your cat 6 wire waterproof? and you aren't running any AC or DC lines in the Pex conduit. Them twisted pairs wires can lay next to each other but anything else with current will mess them up. Also under 100 meters maximum length too.

Everything here is correct for a router.

Except the OP ran RG6 off the Verizon box and plugged in a 2nd modem!

 

[Bighead38]

I fixed it! So yeah a quick phone call to my father in law who retired from Verizon got me straight. Basically he called me a big dummy ( he didn't really ) but yeah you can't run 2 different wifi routers from the same cable line. So he left me a range extender about a year or 2 ago that I found this morning and hooked it up and after about 10 minutes I'm back in business.
Thanks guys......I'm a heavy equipment mechanic not a fiber optic tech lol

Heavy equipment mechanic? I’m an operator but my company asks me to fix **** all the time when the mechanic can’t figure it out. So far I’ve figured out most of the issues. Next one I have to investigate is if a Caterpillar backup camera is serviceable since it has moisture in the lens. Open to some phone calls occasionally lol?

 

[3rdgendslmech]

Heavy equipment mechanic? I’m an operator but my company asks me to fix **** all the time when the mechanic can’t figure it out. So far I’ve figured out most of the issues. Next one I have to investigate is if a Caterpillar backup camera is serviceable since it has moisture in the lens. Open to some phone calls occasionally lol?

hahaha advice is free but online tech support is $$$$ from what I hear lol
If its an original CAT installed camera there should be a part number on it. If its newer ish it should be a ***-xxxx number. If its aftermarket....well....do the same thing but try to get on amazon and order a direct replacement.
I changed one on a john deere loader we have and that thing was EXPENSIVE

 

[wyliesdiesels]

A few months back Verizon sent us an upgraded router to replace the old one we were using. Didn't have to return the old one so I figured I could put it down in my pole barn since it'd be nice to have internet out there. I buried about 110 feet of 3/4 pex I had laying around to get rid of it when I ran the electric.
Today I finally got around to running RG6 out there. There was a 3 way split right by the electric meter and a box that verizon has. I swapped that out with a 4 way, crimped on 2 connectors and everything worked fine.....or so I thought.
After about 2-3 hours my wife started complaining about the internet cutting out and in. I noticed it once or twice while i was in the barn listening to Pandora. After dinner I was down there, lost internet again and I text my wife and she said it was gone at the house also. So I turned off the router in the barn and a few seconds later she said it came back on in the house. So far as of right now it hasn't dropped out.
We got a pretty good amount of rain last night and it was pretty breezy today but I'm convinced it's something I did.
Any thoughts

The dead giveaway here is you ran RG6 to feed the router. NO router will have RG6 for the feed connection unless it is actually an ISP gateway which has a cable modem, router, firewall and wireless access point all in one.

what you have is a gateway and that wont work for what you want to do here.

you need to run CAT5e or fiber to the barn, install a switch and then an access point.

sounds like verizon left the old MAC addressed provisioned in their system so the service kept switching between the house gateway and barn gateway

So I was reading about if you run a hardwire connection (ethernet cable) between 2 routers you have to turn off DHCP? Do I have to do the same just to have wifi out there?

not necessarily. its all in how it gets setup. multiple routers with DHCP turned on run on the same network all the time....

ideally you would have one DHCP server but if theres different subnets and lan segments that need to be separated then you run separate routers and DHCP servers and then add route entries so the routers now how to route traffic between lan segments

You say router, but mention you ran RG6 and installed a 4 way splitter.

Are you running 2 cable modems on the same service?

bingo

I Don't believe you can have 2 modems off the same service. You would need to get a Cat 5 or Cat 6 or even fiber optic from your router in your house to the barn. Then you could put a access point in the barn.

actually you can... see the reasons why below.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

You can run two different routers, but you need to set the second one up in 'bridge' mode or whatever they call it for that devices. Basically you don't want two devices handing out DHCP requests, so it's not really routing it is just an access point

i know some brands call it bridge mode but this is not the right term.

but the OP has a gateway so what he wants to do wont work with the gateway

Stop calling your modem/router combo a router!

Bingo. its a gateway which has a modem, router, firewall and access point all in one.

You can run multiple routers

You CANNOT run 2 modems.

Actually one can run multiple CABLE modems off the same cable line unlike DSL modems (Uverse). This is because cable modems are provisioned by MAC address and connected by multiple upstream and downstream channels not line sync tones (DSL). I have lots of clients that have multiple cable modems for various reasons.

But if one wants multiple cable modem connections at the same place then they would have to pay for multiple services.