do I needed a 5 ton or 10 ton 3 jar hydraulic puller?

[dogdog]

do I needed a 5 ton or 10 ton 3 jar hydraulic puller?

ok collecting tools to replace the rear wheel hub and bearing , maybe the front too... I am sure both will do the job fine, so which is more versatile use after this. 10Ton might be too large for many stuff is what I am afraid of. or 5 ton is too weak to pull anything ?

 

[setfocus]

What kind car?, I've done pleanty of wheel bearings on cars/pickups. Bolt-in sealed hub/bearing units, press-in bearings, and non-drive tapered bearings (don't really require any special tools).

Use air hammer, sledge hammer, and torch for bolt-in.

Vise and sledge hammer to knock out the hub and basic shop press that uses a bottle jack (probably 10ish ton) on the bearing, for press-in bearings

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[sberry]

I don't own one.

 

[dogdog]

I don't own one.

why ? do you own more than one ?

 

[matt_i]

Anytime a "jaw puller" is used the main issue is keeping the arms seated on whatever is being pulled. Very small points of contact.

If you look up "caged jaw puller" you'll see one way.

Personally I think you'll get a significantly better job if you can do some more disassembly and use a stationary shop press (H-frame hydraulic bottle jack press or equivalent)

 

[dogdog]

Anytime a "jaw puller" is used the main issue is keeping the arms seated on whatever is being pulled. Very small points of contact.

If you look up "caged jaw puller" you'll see one way.

Personally I think you'll get a significantly better job if you can do some more disassembly and use a stationary shop press (H-frame hydraulic bottle jack press or equivalent)

yea not going to happen for this car, taking it to the press I mean..... the rear spindle is part of the whole rear axle... The front is different case. It "should" have just slide out, but I have been hammering it with a BFH and it only came half way out.

besides that I have always wanted a hydrulic jaw puller.... just don't know which one is more practical on cars. Sometimes 5 ton give more access. but the 10Ton seems to be more beefier.

 

[sberry]

Buy the heavy tool. If you are buying knockoff the heavier version is usually worth the juice.
Lots of tools in this class the generic works rather well especially if its not working overloaded. The 2T engine crane is substantially better than the 1 at 75$ more, the 4T wire cumalong is a whole different tool at 15$ more than a 2 and will do everything a 2 will do.
Same for those bottle jacks, size it up and they are good.

 

[anndel]

I have Posi-Lock 5 and 7 ton pullers but haven't used them yet. For press-fit wheel bearings and hubs I use the Astro Pneumatic 78825 kit and the 78830 hub/drum puller and so far they worked all the time.

 

[dogdog]

I have the front wheel bearing kit from some one else, 2 sets actually 1 from HF and the other one from ATD or something. I was eyeing on the Astro hub/drum puller, but didn't want to just get it for a one or two time use, unless I have to kinda of deal... so this brings the question about these hydraulic 3 jar pullers. Since it might be more versatile than the specific tools... aside from that, I have about literally 12" of clearance to work on it... dam driveway too narrow. Might have to wait till spring. but good time to collect more tools

 

[dogdog]

Buy the heavy tool. If you are buying knockoff the heavier version is usually worth the juice.
Lots of tools in this class the generic works rather well especially if its not working overloaded. The 2T engine crane is substantially better than the 1 at 75$ more, the 4T wire cumalong is a whole different tool at 15$ more than a 2 and will do everything a 2 will do.
Same for those bottle jacks, size it up and they are good.

the 10T is physically larger is what I mean. might have limited access to some smaller space is what I am trying to say... If the 5Ton would be better for general use is what I am asking... don't use them enough to say... yea / nay / maybe and my current knowledge of it is, dunno... (not how to use it, but practical use of it). Trying to limit my tool buying to job specific like the concrete saw with "a lot of" blades I have now sitting in the box for few years.. worth the money to finish the job. but literally one time use . No I won't craiglist it (as an example).

 

[tdkkart]

And yet we still have no idea whet vehicle we're talking about, so a hub puller may be completely the wrong tool.

 

[dogdog]

And yet we still have no idea whet vehicle we're talking about, so a hub puller may be completely the wrong tool.

Trying to not bring a vehicle to this equation as well as brand. But the price have to be reasonable and not astronomical.

 

[Ign]

Sooo...maybe this is info you don't want to provide, either -- and thats ok, I know how easily Squirrel! threads go, but I guess I've got two questions, but of course only answer them if you think it won't hijack:
1) do you have links to models you're considering?
2) why does it have to be hydraulic? Shorter maybe, as you said you only have 12" to work?

 

[dogdog]

Not that I don't want to provide... it's just doesn't needed to be in the equation. and off to the wild tangent...

1) any one from Amazon I am fine with or sears or ebay...or amazon or walmart market.

This sets seems to be good. Cheaper somewhere else, just an example.
https://www.sears.com/sunex-tool-price-ea-sunex-tool-su3909-10-ton-hydraulic/p-SPM11905036415

HF have both the 5ton and 10Ton
https://www.harborfreight.com/5-ton-three-jaw-hydraulic-gear-puller-95326.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/10-ton-3-jaw-hydraulic-gear-puller-64982.html

The amazon and Ebay varity.
https://www.amazon.com/Hydraulic-Puller/s?k=Hydraulic+Puller

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=hydraulic+puller&_sacat=0


2) No it doesn't have to be hydraulic but probably makes things a lot easier if it is.

 

[Robbie B]

Why not both?

 

[619DioFan]

The hydraulic gear pullers at hf have a very short range of motion.so plan on putting multiple spacers between the press points. there are vids on utube showing them in use, one vid shows the 5 ton fail and then they used the 10 ton. if you are dealing with getting the hub out of the knuckle attach a pipe wrench to the edge of the hub so it sticks out at a 90 then hit it with a sledge, poor mans hub shocker tool.

 

[nelstomlinson]

Not that I don't want to provide... it's just doesn't needed to be in the equation. and off to the wild tangent...

What you're working on definitely affécts the tool you should use. I use different pullers on my track loader than on my Subaru.

 

[dogdog]

The hydraulic gear pullers at hf have a very short range of motion.so plan on putting multiple spacers between the press points. there are vids on utube showing them in use, one vid shows the 5 ton fail and then they used the 10 ton. if you are dealing with getting the hub out of the knuckle attach a pipe wrench to the edge of the hub so it sticks out at a 90 then hit it with a sledge, poor mans hub shocker tool.

I'll probably go get the 10T then... does the other brand have better travel range ? Or they are the same... Can't tell from their specs.

 

[skulldrinker]

I got the 12 ton. Not afraid of stuck rotors anymore.

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[dogdog]

I got the 12 ton. Not afraid of stuck rotors anymore.

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lol which model 12 Ton you have. Still haven't buy one yet.. hesitate between the Sunex and the HF one.. HF seems ok and price wise, Sunex 3909 didn't give any specs other than the Jaws are CR-MO which is very nice. But no other info as in Jaw opening etc.

Rotor was never an issue for me... they have that secret bolt M6 or M8 on the face of the rotor that you can squeeze to force it out easy.. almost all the roter/Drums in my cars have that screw hole (Honda/Nissan/Toyota/VW).