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Tagging steel pieces.

MatBirch

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Hey Guys-
I have a mission at work of acquiring a good way to attach tags to the ends of steel beams and columns. We pre-fab all of our stuff in the shop, then they get delivered to the jobsite on our own flatbed gooseneck trailer. As we’ve grown, we are experiencing some issues with labeling components so they wind up on the correct jobsite, orders are complete, correctly labeled for install, etc. Also, the occasional extra long piece that requires a red flag going down the highway…
The previous system was that each piece was labeled with a paint pen. Trouble is, when several jobs are piled on the trailer, things get missed. We’ve also had a few situations where the structural steel is the architectural finished product and can’t have paint pen or grease pen markings all over it. For flags, we have the typical magnet setup and it’s ok, but they get lost fairly often.
New system we’re trying is a Tyvek tag with a wire tie. Should work great where we have a bolt hole or a stud, but need something for those plain ends. I’ve seen things that appear to be attached at the mill that is kind of like a hog ring?? They are pretty damn stout and difficult to remove. I’ve seen little weld studs used as well, but we don’t want to go that way. I’m looking for some kind of clip-on, that can just stay with the piece. The contractor can remove it during install, and toss it.
I’ve used spring steel frame clips for securing wiring harnesses. I think it would work, but looking for options.
 
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MJD1

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Trailer cross member wiring clips for thinner material, beam clamps for thicker material
 
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MatBirch

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Trailer cross member wiring clips for thinner material, beam clamps for thicker material

Thanks! I'll see what the boss thinks about the beam clamps. Many will never make their way home, no matter how hard we try. With other subs on the jobs, etc., they would add up over time. $1/beam or column though seems like an acceptable cost to improve efficiency, quality, and reputation.
A quick spray of some bright paint would help keep them around a tiny bit longer...
 

travisn1

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Or put a $5 fee on them, offer your shipper an initial "credit" of $100 or something. Give someone a reason to care about them.
 

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Stud welding systems for attaching tags to steel? Snaps off pretty clean.

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My steel supplier sticks some thin bailing wire through the tag, wraps it around the tube a couple times, and then uses cellophane wrap to keep it on. Works great, easy to take off if you want to.
 

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Trouble is, when several jobs are piled on the trailer, things get missed.


May I suggest that you color code your tags if you can, or if using beam clamps color them. I developed a system when I was moving equipment around the world where I used color as the main ID that the riggers had to use because a lot of them were not English speaking. I could just instruct the lead rigger guy to put the red tags over there, the green here and so on. They did not have to read or decipher anything, just go by color. Make it simple and idiot proof.

Our tags were put in adhesive shipping envelopes and stuck on the equipment. https://www.uline.com/Product/Detai...TeT6Uy5poVpxsAwOPghoC2EYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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MatBirch

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MatBirch

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We have 2 different stud welders already, but both are too big for this application. Buying another setup for an occasional use isn't really feasible for us.
 

Tim in Indiana

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We used to use large caliber Ramset gun to attach tags to heavy forgings and weldments. The powder loads would easily shoot the nail point through a 3/4" web on an I-beam. On thicker steel it would just leave the head proud of the surface. If they needed remove we just ground the pins flush with the surface.

The process took only seconds per pin and tag.

Tim
 

matt_i

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The low carbon rebar tie wire is very tough if you don't over torque the twist. Fairly cheap in spools.

The tag could be cardstock, reinforce with filament tape then punch thru that. could laminate or cover the writing with shipping tape or really fancy would be laser cut metal tags.

You could also use generic hand-struck metal stamps directly, on sheet metal tags, brass tags (mcmaster) or metal type (gt schmidt) or a pin stamper (telesis, etc).
 

MJD1

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Thanks everybody!

I'm going with a few of these to try. I found a 5/16"-1/2" size that should work well. 46 cents each...

Those are the cross member clips I mentioned earlier. Those will be pretty much disposable where as the beam clamps are more reusable, provided you geyy them back.
 
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