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Hi Bob.
Thought I'd stop in and see what's happening down your way. Did everything work as planned with the corvette. Loved those polished shafts they looked great. Went to the (****) shop today they didnt deliver very well. Mostly very old hardware and warped wood trim. Oh well!
I hope being cooped up all this time is not wearing on you too badly. I still have quite a list of projects to do so I'm still playing catch up with them so I'm doing pretty well. Keep smiling friend!

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Jim, the Corvette chose to give me a little followup job. The speedometer connection only works after everything warms up. At first it tells me I'm not moving and then tells me I'm driving erratically, going from 0 to 20 in a split second when the tach says I'm doing a flat 30mph. Eventually it settles down and gives a real reading. I was willing to live with that issue but when I parked the Vette in the driveway for an hour or so, it peed transmission fluid on the driveway. Not exactly lemonade from lemons but I'm going to drain the transmission, replace the ordinary pan with a shiny new aluminum one and refill it with old school B&M Trick Shift.

Sorry to hear the **** outlet didn't deliver. I limit my visits to the soft core Habitat for Humanity ReStore outlets. The closest one attracts mostly women but the one a dozen miles away has a large ******** guy section.
Good reading as always, Bob.

I started engineering school totally clueless. My wife, a math major, had a one sided plastic slide rule she got in high school physics class. The cursor was about 1/8" wide. Nonetheless it got me through engineering school. She bought me a Post Versalog (it's around here someplace) my senior year but really too late to use it much. The toy rule carried the day.

I too lusted after an HP 35 but could never come up with $35 much less $350. I did manage an HP 49, 49 step programmable my first year out of college. You could do a lot with just 49 steps. I eventually bought an HP41C, with thermal printer and extra memory. Like the Versalog, too late to be of much use as I was mainly using programs on the company's minicomputer. We did take our gas hydraulics program for pipeline design to Tehran in 1977. It took a full box of cards. Our computer guy went along and the Iranian Gas Company (NIGC) managed to get us use of the twin 360's at the University of Tehran. We could start about 6:00PM and the operators left and told us to turn out the lights and lock up when we left.:lol_hitti

Past that I'm lost around computers.:willy_nil
Andy, thanks for stopping by. My brother **** cast a huge shadow when it came to mathematics. He could do square roots in his head and felt bad that I couldn't. He didn't need to use the slide rule my father gifted him when he was 5 or 6 so he gave it to me as a crutch. It was the little one that didn't have a line in glass thing. He thought showing me how to use in once would imprint it in my mind. I was able to admire the joinery in the wooden "toy."

My first electronic calculator was a gift from IBM. I saved IBM money by reformatting the Corporate Security manual so it used a fourth of the paper in each copy (30,000 copies each year) so I was given an "Excellence" award. The calculator could do addition, subtraction, multiplication and division with a memory function I was able to conquer in a matter of weeks.

I had an aha moment in an MBA Finance course. Accounting discrepancies divisible by 9 point to a transposition error. The vast majority of my math errors turned out to be from transposition and that problem lingers to this day. Phones with digital displays have all but eliminated my wrong number calls. My remaining fat **** mis-dials may be fixed with diet.

I don't want to mislead anyone about my computer knowledge. In 1981 I worked in the same off-site building as the core PC development team. I prepared a cost estimate for the documentation and it was rejected (actual cost turned out to be an order of magnitude more than my estimate). Four years later they put me in charge of the software side of the documentation. IBM didn't offer PCs in the Employee Purchase program for the first five years and I was unwilling to spend more for a PC than I paid for my '72 Corvette big block. Instead I bought a smart typewriter. The Quietwriter 7, with an adapter card to enable spell check and an adapter for the optional display head cost me $1,240.17 with a 0% interest loan to be paid back through a paycheck deduction. I know what I paid because I save receipts for my worst purchase decisions. The motherboard went belly up two decades later and a used replacement would cost more than a new laser printer.
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I love how you look after stuff that you have paid for it.

That slide rule looks pretty much immaculate
Rian, taking care of stuff is a side-effect of poverty. Paying to replace stuff you didn't take care of really hurts.

That isn't a photo of mine but mine was in at least that good shape when I gifted it to my son-in-law when he graduated from college with a PhD.

With all that is going on nothing is trivial anymore.

I won the rat war, sunroom is clear with hot tub and no visitors. A few weeks ago buried bunker and porgies in my backyard. Well the masked bandits had a field day 10 holes in my garden couple of fishheads left.

My aunt who raised me was a PHD chemist at LIU what 16 year old kid did you know who had a keys to chemistry stockroom in the 70's? So all the latest and greatest educational stuff was brought home to play with. I had been setting up instruments since about 13 my aunt found her tech person, when computers came on line I was the only one to touch the chemistry computers. The paid IT staff was not allowed to touch them too many screw ups.

got to take child to school
Michael, we returned from a fishing trip with three large Barracuda, thinking we would have a feast. A very kind friend told us they were not great eating and might have high levels of ciguatoxin from eating parrotfish. Told my son to bury them in the sand between the boat parking runways in the side yard. Woke the next morning to a complete blackout of the master bedroom window on that side of the house. Went outside to discover a billion black flies relaxing on every surface near what had to be the shallowest grave in history.

Early in my tech writing career we had a support staff that was supposed to do all our final draft typing. These editorial assistants had to give up their IBM Executive typewriters and use Magnetic Tape Selectric typewriters. They showed their displeasure with the new machines by slowing down. The second time I missed a key schedule I started using their machines after they left for the day. I didn't get paid for overtime so no one complained and I never missed another milestone. Eventually they gave me my own machine to use. Turned out the editorial assistants were paid more than me because of my failure to meet deadlines. That machine helped double my salary in three years.

I think I paid $125 for my HP41CV back when I started working on my engineering degree. It seemed like a lot of money back then for a calculator, but it proved its worth.

My old calculator still works after all these years, but I found an app to allow me to use the very same calculator on my smartphone anytime I want (and I use it all the time!).
Mark, it's funny how my financial pain threshold has changed over the years. When it cost $2.50 to fill the car with gas, $5 was my threshold (didn't think twice spending that on something I wanted). When a similar fill-up started costing $50, my threshold became $100. Pretty sure I would still cringe a little buying that calculator.
Hi Bob, I thought I was the only one with one of those relics left. Also still have the HP 35 lying in a drawer in my office as well. Seems like yesterday when I last used them, but it was in the 70s which is now "forever" ago!
Gilr, if you ever worry you are keeping too many relics, dig around in your garage. If you have a dwell meter in a closet or drawer, you might be a relic hoarder. I was pretty proud of myself for throwing out my second, backup, dwell meter. My 1968 GTO was my first new car and unlike it's beater predecessors, required a dwell meter to set the points (OK, the points could be set with a feeler gauge but I failed to mention that to my wife). The Styrofoam box is a little beat up...
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Hi Bob! And Happy New Year! How have you been? Any cool projects?

I saw this and thought of you, there's a new challenger for a Florida man:lol:
Have a great week and stay safe:beer:
Tapio, nothing very cool going on. Citibank still requires phone calls so I can: "Press 4 to be ignored."
My father told me not to use that nutcracker while he was in the room. :Violent:
As I've been through several calculators in my youth, I've found that I forgotten most of what I used to know about calculators. It seems my task don't require much of a calculator besides simple math. I used to compete in Calculator competitions in my younger school days. Wasn't much except you know learn what the other weird button can do and become more efficient with that calculator. I recall it being a Casio I believe. But I'm unsure of the model. As I grew up I started drifting to the TI calculators and I've used the models from TI-82 to TI83Plus in High School, then Ti89 Titanium in College. Then when I prepared for my FE exam they only allowed Ti_30XS or lower for the test and so I've used the Ti-30XS from then on. Matter of fact, it's sitting right here on my desk as I type this.
Cody, every time I looked at one of those calculators that cartoon balloon with swirling mathematical symbols formed at the back of my eyes. If I owned one it would be in a drawer with its alkaline batteries slowly destroying it.
That is a very funny story Madison069, I have almost the exact same experience with calculators except I chose a Casio fx-115ES for my FE, it was the closest I could find to the Casio I'd been using since jr. high and all the way through college and as you said it is sitting beside me now and is used daily.

JB
JB, I do feel like I missed out on a fun career but I doubt I would have gotten to travel the world for IBM and AOL. I would have been the mediocre engineer among superstars. Instead I was the technical writer with a burning desire to learn about the newest stuff. You can't afford to let the people who make it work wander off. Writers are on the tiny totem poles.
 

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Bob, I'm guilty, you must have been in my garage. Tools are rarely thrown out here! I still have an old Simpson Multimeter, and a bunch of digital multimeters, and a vacuum tube tester! Helps keep my old Hammarlund Super Pro shortwave receiver going and my 1934 Zenith Radio I inherited from my grandad..... I need to stop looking!

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OK Bob, since you opened the door..........


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I just can't bring myself to let go of these. Especially since I built them before I could drive.


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Bob, I'm guilty, you must have been in my garage. Tools are rarely thrown out here! I still have an old Simpson Multimeter, and a bunch of digital multimeters, and a vacuum tube tester! Helps keep my old Hammarlund Super Pro shortwave receiver going and my 1934 Zenith Radio I inherited from my grandad..... I need to stop looking!

Gil
Gil, at least you have a use for those tools. I put a Pertronix unit in the '72 Vette's distributor so there's no mechanical dwell to set. I also have a HEI distributor with mechanical tach drive if I'm not happy with the Pertronix.
Wait. What? People throw out tools? Next thing you'll be telling me that people throw out scraps of materials.
Kirk, full disclosure, I'm guilty of throwing out a tool. I had a 1.5 ton Craftsman floor jack that was not working well. I got rid of it for two reasons: 1) the repair parts were close to the cost of a new 3 ton Craftsman jack and 2) I was rebuilding a wall of the garage and needed to take the weight off the five sistered 32-foot trusses holding up my garage and master suite rooves. Pretty sure it was more than 3,000 pounds.

To my credit I saved a no-name offset 11/16-5/8 box end wrench after I snapped off the 5/8 end.
OK Bob, since you opened the door..........

I just can't bring myself to let go of these. Especially since I built them before I could drive.
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Dan, I think criminal charges can be brought against people who toss out their Heathkit projects.
 
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I have had one of those 'someday' projects staring at me in my office for more than 20 years. Today I took the first step toward tackling it.

While he was alive, my father-in-law gifted me a number of significant family heirlooms (he feared his son would sell or discard them). These gifts included a man's triple diamond ring and several items from the Civil War. He had the officer's pistol 'fixed up' many year's before so it looked like a reproduction when he gave it to me. He got it from a relative who fought in the Civil War but was likely found on a battlefield because this relative only rose to the rank of Corporal and therefore wasn't entitled to one.
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The pistol is a H. Aston&Co Model 1842 muzzle loader, manufactured in Middleton Connecticut in 1851.
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It's in pretty good shape for being 170 years old. When I first got it it needed a cleaning so I carefully disassembled it. Putting it back together I thought I was being gentle but snapped the head off the screw holding the hammer in place. Looks like the screw's crystallized. Today I found a place that sells reproduction hammer retention screws. Was happy to see they were $5 but then noticed minimum order is $10. Shipping is another $7.75. Oh well, it's only money and it's not like Fastenal or McMaster Carr carries them.

Although these guns are worth more when their original patina is maintained, it would have been hard to see the makers marks on the wooden stock under the layers of dirt. The H. Aston factory workers were proud of the job they did. Not sure why there are two marks but maybe two people were involved in making the stock.
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Almost every part of the gun has one or two makers marks stamped in them.
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[EDIT] I decided to give the extraction a try and I was pleasantly surprised. About five minutes with a 1/16" drill bit and five seconds with a #1 Easy Out and the broken bit came out.
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The bit that came out is very close to 8-32 but an 8-32 screw binds quickly in the hole.
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I re-inserted the stub and will keep it until the new screws arrive. If those don't fit I'll have to stop by a machine shop to see if the thread (and slotted head) can be duplicated.
 

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Michael, I believe it's a crime handled by the Auxiliary Police and they are ******* at the moment. Don't ask, don't tell!

Figured it would be the Church Police.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...
Out chief weapons are fear and surprise
 

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"built them"

:lol_hitti Speaking of not throwing stuff out and building them, when I was an aspiring musician growing up, I was in need of a metronome and my dad was up to the task of building one....and of course, even thought the batteries are now obsolete, I still have it....

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My first TV was a console Heathkit, built it in 1964, a coworker built me a cabinet from solid walnut from his parent's home which was framed in the wood from the property. He disassembled the home after they passed away and brought it home on a trailer, took several trips. He was an engineer (I was an engineering student then) and I fixed several of his Heathkits that had failed, so it was a great trade. Miss those days!
 
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Figured it would be the Church Police.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...
Out chief weapons are fear and surprise
Michael, :lol_hitti
The hand cannon is beautiful. I guess it is ok to spend a few bucks on them ever hundred years or so.
Uncle Willie, I have to agree. It's one of only a few things I take care of that doesn't take much work. No oil changes, no tires and no batteries. If it costs me $17.95 every 170 years I'll be OK.
Uh... I'll be back after I go to the dump to find the VTVM I built about 50 years ago. I may be a while...
Roger, if you come across a pair of speakers, let me know.
:lol_hitti Speaking of not throwing stuff out and building them, when I was an aspiring musician growing up, I was in need of a metronome and my dad was up to the task of building one....and of course, even thought the batteries are now obsolete, I still have it....
Mark, everything Heathkit offered was classic. I could never afford Heathkit stuff and went with Lafayette products instead.
You can still get the battery, it just isn't cheap.
Uncle Willie, I have found some long-gone stuff on the Internet. Last time I looked for that screw it was at a gunsmith shop and I was told they had nothing.
Last year I sold a multimeter and a transistor tester, both Heathkit designs that I'd copied! I hope that's not been reported to Interpol. :pimpflash
Pete
Pete, I think there are family members planning interventions for many of us.
Bob:

Excellent job getting the screw out without breaking a small easy out in it or drilling into the adjacent threads.:bowdown:
Andy, thank you -- I impressed myself with the process. A tiny screwdriver helped break some of the crystalline metal and then a centerpunch put a dent pretty close to dead center. I wanted to be gentle so I used a drill and kept the speed real slow. Your thread has helped me tremendously and your can-do attitude tricked me into trying.
I remember all the guys returning from the Vietnam war building the Heath kit 26" TV's . The GI bill would pay for the kit.
MacTexas, I remember those TVs well. The really great part of the build process was learning how to diagnose and repair the TV. A friend showed me how he could align the color guns so the picture was perfect (as perfect as broadcast could be).
My first TV was a console Heathkit, built it in 1964, a coworker built me a cabinet from solid walnut from his parent's home which was framed in the wood from the property. He disassembled the home after they passed away and brought it home on a trailer, took several trips. He was an engineer (I was an engineering student then) and I fixed several of his Heathkits that had failed, so it was a great trade. Miss those days!
Gil, I always envied the guys who could build and fix the Heathkits. My skills involved removing all the tubes, taking them to the drugstore, testing them and buying replacements. The most important skill was finding the drug store with the biggest collection of tubes.
 

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Bob, thanks for reminding me of drug store tube testers! Wow! Those machines always fascinated me, even though I was just a shade too young to use one. Not to mention that I am also electronically challenged. I would venture that most people today would not even know what one was even talking about it if you mentioned them.

 
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Didn't mean to disappear but my life and activities seems very trivial at the moment.

Hi Bob! Pretty much sum up my life at the moment. Between work, family and general chores it seems like very little else of interest going on here. Here I am living vicariously through your thread... :rocker:

I still have my dad's slide rule and pantograph somewhere. He later carried a TI calculator that had both scientific and statistics functions. It was rather expensive and as a result it was in safe keeping, such that I never had a close look at it. Funny enough that by the time we needed scientific calculators, Casio was such a commodity and rarely needed much else. Today I can literally just ask Google to do the calculation for me, provided she correctly interprets what I'm asking her to calculate. I do have a cheap Casio scientific calculator in the tool cab if that fails.

Nice job cleaning up the pistol. Old firearm threads are well beyond anything standard. If you are lucky it may be modern enough to have British standard Whitworth(BSW) thread which is a 55deg thread angle rather than the 60deg of more common modern threads. Whitworth standardised threads just around the time this pistol was manufactured and this standardisation allowed for more mass production techniques to be used. Before that each firearm part was hand fettled to fit only that specific unit and often screws followed the same practice.

Not uncommon for people to chase the thread with a modern equivalent of the same thread pitch to repair it and then address the head of the screw with a little filing and sanding to accommodate the aesthetics. My local bolt shop carries some BSW fasteners, sure you may be able to source some too. I bought an old "new in box" BSW tap and die set for next to nothing while I was rebuilding the shaper too. Matching thread pitch gauge is cheap enough for the odd occasion I need it.
 
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Added some Monty Python albums to my music collection so you never know when or where the Spanish Inquisition will appear.

Been choking myself on linux, been reading more readme files than I care too. Most of them just go into legal rights. Tried to install LibreOffice every install command in official documentation for Ubuntu did not work did not toss logical error. Found the answer in a combo of web sites, off course the install directions said this was not for the first timer or the timid. Which is a great way to encourage new users.

Next on the list is MySql development bench, I got the database to download and install based on the terminal command I learned for LibreOffice. Now trying to get PHP service running so I can run some scripts.
Then I am going to install server on other box then database services and continue to build network.

Looking at Raspberry Pi the model 400 comes in a keyboard ready to go with 40 pin interface in back of keyboard. I have a few projects in mind. I had looked at this stuff a few years ago but the sampling rate would not do 200hz which we needed to do shock data line. But I hardly need weather data sampled at that rate.

Have fun down there we are going to get hit with cold and snow Sunday till Tuesday
 

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Absolutely nothin' to-do with tools or work with them:
Cleaning-out a house, found a set of Corelle dinnerware, plain-white, stuck it on CL, and sold it within 24 hours, I took that and bought some sushi at Publix (the big S.E. Florida market) and a 12-pack of Samuel Adams. A bit of folding-green left-over.

Also found BNIB some classic USA Oneida cutlery, stainless-steel, which looks like it should bring me some Franklins.

A working Marantz 2240 receiver, I listened to it all-day, on a pair of Polk Audio die-cast mini-speakers, the components work fine. It's the old manual thumbwheel FM tuning model of Marantz, circa 1973. Also going to bring me some Benjamins.

Among the tools in the mix, a backbone saw needing a new wood handle, a project for my bandsaw. And a cool tool, a plumber's level, with adjustable pitch.

Other stuff being rooted-out, too. It's like my own private garage sale.
 

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You mean my shop stereo's big brother? I think this one is loud enough. I don't know what I would do with another ten watts
Right now there's some kid saying "Ten more watts? My car stereo says it puts out a hundred watts per channel"
The key is "says"...
 

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Bob, thanks for reminding me of drug store tube testers! Wow! Those machines always fascinated me, even though I was just a shade too young to use one. Not to mention that I am also electronically challenged. I would venture that most people today would not even know what one was even talking about it if you mentioned them.


Y'sguy, one of the amazing things about those testers was the tubes inside the cabinet. North Babylon, New York wasn't a high crime suburb so maybe it wasn't that amazing but every drug store in town allowed you to help yourself to the tubes you needed. Never occurred to me to take them without paying (they did have parabolic mirrors).
Hi Bob! Pretty much sum up my life at the moment. Between work, family and general chores it seems like very little else of interest going on here. Here I am living vicariously through your thread... :rocker:

I still have my dad's slide rule and pantograph somewhere. He later carried a TI calculator that had both scientific and statistics functions. It was rather expensive and as a result it was in safe keeping, such that I never had a close look at it. Funny enough that by the time we needed scientific calculators, Casio was such a commodity and rarely needed much else. Today I can literally just ask Google to do the calculation for me, provided she correctly interprets what I'm asking her to calculate. I do have a cheap Casio scientific calculator in the tool cab if that fails.

Nice job cleaning up the pistol. Old firearm threads are well beyond anything standard. If you are lucky it may be modern enough to have British standard Whitworth(BSW) thread which is a 55deg thread angle rather than the 60deg of more common modern threads. Whitworth standardised threads just around the time this pistol was manufactured and this standardisation allowed for more mass production techniques to be used. Before that each firearm part was hand fettled to fit only that specific unit and often screws followed the same practice.

Not uncommon for people to chase the thread with a modern equivalent of the same thread pitch to repair it and then address the head of the screw with a little filing and sanding to accommodate the aesthetics. My local bolt shop carries some BSW fasteners, sure you may be able to source some too. I bought an old "new in box" BSW tap and die set for next to nothing while I was rebuilding the shaper too. Matching thread pitch gauge is cheap enough for the odd occasion I need it.
Eugene, my father was a history teacher and my mother was a grade school teacher so there was only the one slide rule dad used in some math courses in college.

The screws arrived today and I installed one and tested the hammer. The hammer moves freely and the screw stays stationary so I think I'm done for now.

I have a couple of thread pitch gauges (one is SAE and the other is Metric). Maybe I should keep an eye out for a Whitworth one. I saw one of these pistols at the museum at Stone Mountain, Georgia. I seem to recall they had it marked as a British Officer's pistol so it makes sense it would use Whitworth threads.

Added some Monty Python albums to my music collection so you never know when or where the Spanish Inquisition will appear.

Been choking myself on linux, been reading more readme files than I care too. Most of them just go into legal rights. Tried to install LibreOffice every install command in official documentation for Ubuntu did not work did not toss logical error. Found the answer in a combo of web sites, off course the install directions said this was not for the first timer or the timid. Which is a great way to encourage new users.

Next on the list is MySql development bench, I got the database to download and install based on the terminal command I learned for LibreOffice. Now trying to get PHP service running so I can run some scripts.
Then I am going to install server on other box then database services and continue to build network.

Looking at Raspberry Pi the model 400 comes in a keyboard ready to go with 40 pin interface in back of keyboard. I have a few projects in mind. I had looked at this stuff a few years ago but the sampling rate would not do 200hz which we needed to do shock data line. But I hardly need weather data sampled at that rate.

Have fun down there we are going to get hit with cold and snow Sunday till Tuesday
Michael, I have struck out with my attempts to install OS/2 on a fresh drive on the old laptop. I downloaded the install floppies meant to recognize larger hard drives but 160GB seems to be beyond it's abilities. After I installed the 960GB SSD in one of my backup desktop systems, the BIOS refuses to boot from the memory stick that loads Ubuntu. Wasted way too much time on it so it will wait for a day when I feel mentally prepared to do a deeper dive.

My life is now focused on plumbing.
Absolutely nothin' to-do with tools or work with them:
Cleaning-out a house, found a set of Corelle dinnerware, plain-white, stuck it on CL, and sold it within 24 hours, I took that and bought some sushi at Publix (the big S.E. Florida market) and a 12-pack of Samuel Adams. A bit of folding-green left-over.

Also found BNIB some classic USA Oneida cutlery, stainless-steel, which looks like it should bring me some Franklins.

A working Marantz 2240 receiver, I listened to it all-day, on a pair of Polk Audio die-cast mini-speakers, the components work fine. It's the old manual thumbwheel FM tuning model of Marantz, circa 1973. Also going to bring me some Benjamins.

Among the tools in the mix, a backbone saw needing a new wood handle, a project for my bandsaw. And a cool tool, a plumber's level, with adjustable pitch.

Other stuff being rooted-out, too. It's like my own private garage sale.
Philip, I like the Corelle dinner plates. We have a stack of 25 that take up little more space than a similar stack of paper plates. Pretty sure Liane found them for less than $1 a piece. The other day I searched for soup bowls to match the ones we've broken over the years. Studio Nova Tivoli white set we bought about 35 years ago probably cost $25 on sale. One Replacement websites lists the bowl for $35.99 each, plus shipping. Unbelievable because Amazon has the complete 18-piece, service for 6 set for $39.99. I can do a Greek dinner number on the rest of the set and just keep the six pasta bowls.

You mean my shop stereo's big brother? I think this one is loud enough. I don't know what I would do with another ten watts
Right now there's some kid saying "Ten more watts? My car stereo says it puts out a hundred watts per channel"
The key is "says"...
Modern Garage, I think the Lafayette catalogs listed their audio systems by price and the Marantz components were the last ones in the section. I bought the stuff at the front of the section but always lusted after the Marantz stuff. One of their complete systems cost more than the brand new 1968 Pontiac GTO I bought and it would have probably heated my house (these were tube systems). They are still around and a pair of amps in near new condition can be had for less than $20,000.
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[FONT=&quot]The master shower head fell off its pipe when the chrome plastic nut cracked so I ordered another. Installed the new shower head and it leaks at the pipe connection. Checked the pipe and one section of the last thread is gone. New pipe arrived today so it's back together and I'll try the shower another day.[/FONT]
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Three weeks ago the guest bath toilet started making dripping sounds so I ordered an exact replacement for the flapper. I'm pretty sure I replaced the whole mess about four years ago but figured a new flapper would fix the problem. Nope, it makes more dripping sounds and the valve opens about every 10 minutes to top off the tank. Looks like the flapper is not sealing in one section near its pivot.
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Ordered a new Kohler tank seal and flapper and listened to the dripping for most of a week. It arrived with the bag open and the box inside open as well. Before I started using plumber's language I checked the parts that were there and everything but a cardboard washer was in the box. Rather than wait for another box I started taking the toilet apart today. The Korky flapper valve setup seems to be disintegrating so it was probably time to do this repair.
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The Kohler flapper valve setup went in with little drama but the instructions said not to over-tighten the three tank mounting bolts. I have no idea what the torque reading should be but I undershot the tightening and the thing leaked -- quite a bit. I was choking up on a 1/4-inch ratchet so I was able to seal the thing up without cracking the tank. [/FONT]
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The swap took just under an hour and the final leak cleanup and tool return took another half hour. By that time it had warmed up to 62°F outside and I went to tackle the pool filter. Yesterday afternoon, when I went out to check the chlorine dispenser, the water level in the pool had dropped significantly, as in the skimmer was sucking air and the pump was making unhappy noises. Figured an o-ring was leaking or some other simple fix. Shut off the pump and looked around. Not a simple problem -- the side of the filter housing has split open from top to bottom. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I'm disappointed -- this filter housing is only 25 years old. The filter is no longer manufactured by Hayward but a couple of online sites have the housing for around $300 and can have them here in a few weeks. Cleaning up the lagoon from that creature movie isn't something I want to do so I checked the local Pinch a Penney store and they have a new, same brand but larger filter for $500 ($30 more than Amazon) so I had them put my name on one and picked it up this morning before tackling the shower and toilet. Made a side trip to Home Depot to pick up some 1.5-inch PVC fittings (3 unions, sewer tee and a ball valve).
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[FONT=&quot]I have to cut the pipes on the system so I plan to put unions on both sides of the filter and replace the one to the pump so I can take the system apart without cutting all the PVC apart again. That way, when I'm 101 years old this will be an easy repair.[/FONT]
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Bob: best of luck with all the plumbing projects. it's looked like maybe you had bad luck every which way you turned.

i've been up to my ears in plumbing stuff lately and your toilet issue is something i'm helping my daughter fix at her new home. I replaced the broken tower with the old brass ball float and she says the new one is making noise about every 45 minutes so I need to go back and figure it out.

plumbing at my parent's home was cleaning out the P trap and the short piece above it that was jam packed and maybe hadn't been cleaned in 40 years so I was not a happy camper and I heard my mom tell my dad and bride that I was in the basement GRUMBLING. when i came upstairs I said I heard her say I was a GRUMPY PLUMBER and for sure that was true.

enough of my issues cause you've got your hand full so i'll wish you the best and I really hope all the parts you are putting in to replace the broken ones last long enough so it's your kid's issues after you head to the golden garage.

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I have been detained on my moving the wife's office schedule, the building is prepping and painting that side. Now with the killer snow storm on the way I am screwed.

Bought the Raspberry Pi in keyboard setup, nice toy. Has all the development software I was trying to put on other Linux box. So now I am playing with the senors and cobbling code to make the sensor work.

I avoid house plumbing and refuse to clean bathrooms at work to. When I had my koi ponds had a home built filter system that held about 1000 gallons, worked well the fish would breed every year. Always had babies in the filter system. If you ever have a chance to see big fish breed it is very interesting like a mosh pit at a punk rock concert.

We had a plumber for 40 years he had just retired, old skill training and experience you could not beat.
 

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Hi Bob,

I remember we had some Corelle early in our marriage due to its durability around children and clumsy husbands. You might have to test out that Civil War pistol in order to dispose of the unneeded parts of the replacement set...

I too lusted after the premium stuff in the back room of the stereo store and when the salesman gave me a good price on a used Marantz receiver so I would buy his overpriced speakers (with a name that sounded like a more famous brand - saw me coming) I finally owned some quality equipment.
The speakers are long gone but I still own that first Marantz, and the one pictured above I received recently in trade for some car repairs. Neither anywhere near current technology but they still sound great after a little cleanup.
I remember when I learned that Marantz was made by Matsushita, the same parent as lowly Panasonic. Had to reevaluate my whole universe and began to wonder if Buicks really were better than Chevies like my dad told me.
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Bob: best of luck with all the plumbing projects. it's looked like maybe you had bad luck every which way you turned.

i've been up to my ears in plumbing stuff lately and your toilet issue is something i'm helping my daughter fix at her new home. I replaced the broken tower with the old brass ball float and she says the new one is making noise about every 45 minutes so I need to go back and figure it out.

plumbing at my parent's home was cleaning out the P trap and the short piece above it that was jam packed and maybe hadn't been cleaned in 40 years so I was not a happy camper and I heard my mom tell my dad and bride that I was in the basement GRUMBLING. when i came upstairs I said I heard her say I was a GRUMPY PLUMBER and for sure that was true.

enough of my issues cause you've got your hand full so i'll wish you the best and I really hope all the parts you are putting in to replace the broken ones last long enough so it's your kid's issues after you head to the golden garage.

cheers and have a good weekend!!
Drives, thanks for stopping by. Who knew January was National Plumbing Nightmare month.
I have that same filter housing. Since mine's only about 15 years old, and now under cover, it should outlive me. It better.
Kay, this was a complete and catastrophic failure like nothing I've ever seen before. The pool store guy didn't seem surprised mine failed. Thank goodness the pump sucked air before it emptied the pool. Pretty sure an extra 30,000 gallons would make for a nasty water bill surprise.
I have been detained on my moving the wife's office schedule, the building is prepping and painting that side. Now with the killer snow storm on the way I am screwed.

Bought the Raspberry Pi in keyboard setup, nice toy. Has all the development software I was trying to put on other Linux box. So now I am playing with the senors and cobbling code to make the sensor work.

I avoid house plumbing and refuse to clean bathrooms at work to. When I had my koi ponds had a home built filter system that held about 1000 gallons, worked well the fish would breed every year. Always had babies in the filter system. If you ever have a chance to see big fish breed it is very interesting like a mosh pit at a punk rock concert.

We had a plumber for 40 years he had just retired, old skill training and experience you could not beat.
Michael, I'm going to ignore the Raspberry Pi stuff that filled my screen a few hours ago. All I need now is another distraction. Liane said something about it being 25 years and we haven't repainted the living room. If I mention needing a new ladder and maybe scaffolding, the conversation will change to something else.

I haven't seen big fish breed but Garter snakes in person and Anacondas on TV hit at the whole mosh pit thing.

Hi Bob,

I remember we had some Corelle early in our marriage due to its durability around children and clumsy husbands. You might have to test out that Civil War pistol in order to dispose of the unneeded parts of the replacement set...

I too lusted after the premium stuff in the back room of the stereo store and when the salesman gave me a good price on a used Marantz receiver so I would buy his overpriced speakers (with a name that sounded like a more famous brand - saw me coming) I finally owned some quality equipment.
The speakers are long gone but I still own that first Marantz, and the one pictured above I received recently in trade for some car repairs. Neither anywhere near current technology but they still sound great after a little cleanup.
I remember when I learned that Marantz was made by Matsushita, the same parent as lowly Panasonic. Had to reevaluate my whole universe and began to wonder if Buicks really were better than Chevies like my dad told me.
Joe
Joe, I bought two new pistols just before COVID hit and have yet to try them out. Plates would be fun targets. The Civil War pistol would require percussion caps, lead balls and paper cartridges. I suspect the recoil would fracture my feeble old wrist.

There was a high end audio showroom on Long Island that I was too poor to even be allowed inside but I know they had a whole room devoted to the Marantz stuff. The real question was the Oldsmobile vs. Buick thing. Had a friend in my teens who drove a 1951 stick shift Olds 88. I thought it was incredibly fast but the V8 put out a whopping 135 horsepower. On the other hand, my '47 Ford flathead V8 put out 100 so 35 more did feel like a lot.
 
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Made progress on the pool filter. It looks pretty simple. I can cut the return pipe to the pool close to the fitting going into the filter.
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It looked fine on the pool side but the original line was installed crooked so when I glued it back together straight, it didn't line up and the filter won't sit flat on the slab. I tried digging up the pipe to get it to move but that meant a huge mess and some dead foliage (not on Mrs. Heine's watch).
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Cut the old elbow off and glued a new coupler and section of pipe on the pool side.
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A new 90-degree elbow won't connect the two pipes so I scrounged around in my PVC collection and found a longer elbow. Looks like it will make up about an inch.
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Unfortunately it looks like it needs to make up more than an inch. Ordered some even longer elbows like the one I used in another section.
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Bob know how you feel. I just got through installing a 200 lb cast iron sink while screwed into a hole half my size with a Sawzall and a drill; P trap stuck in my ear having to tell Ginny three times during the course of the project not to flush the toilet while I was under there. Went back to the hardware store three times to buy the same basin strainer etc. Once was for a real basin wrench. Finally finished the kitchen remodel; check it out. Bobby
 

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Looks like you’re up to elbow in plumbing fun. Nice saw.
I wonder if the “have to buy a ladder and scaffolding “ would get me out of chores.


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Bob, I grew up on cheap hard plastic plates as many clumsy kids were at home, the bursar on the other hand was using fine china during her formative years. When I moved out mom gave me a few hand me down dishes all plastic. Before getting married we went shopping together and I was showing her corelle. I picked one up from the display and tossed it across the floor, she expressed shock that I did so and it didn't break! Great stuff never bought any!
 

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I bought two new pistols just before COVID hit and have yet to try them out. Plates would be fun targets. The Civil War pistol would require percussion caps, lead balls and paper cartridges. I suspect the recoil would fracture my feeble old wrist.

Bob, if you would like to try it out, I can supply everything you need. I have a couple of black powder pistols and adequate supplies for them. The recoil from a properly loaded pistol is actually very gentle. Far less than a 9mm. Although it's quite a while since I shot them, I find it a far more pleasant and affordable experience than shooting any other guns.

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Ah, plumbing and Corelle, two topics worthy of discussion!

Bob, like you, I use Pinch a Penny for some pool things. I have a Hayward 'smart' pool pump which probably has a computer circuitry which could have landed Apollo in the Sea of Tranquility in 1969. I bought it online instead of at Pinch a Penny, and I saved probably $400; the first 'smart' Hayward pump I bought was probably $1,300 not including taxes. I think it lasted about 6 years. When I tried to disassemble it to see about replacing the leaky parts, it disintegrated as the powder coat flaked off the cast aluminum parts in sheets.

The replacement is doing OK, and like you I also used unions. Cross my fingers, they aren't leaking and I haven't had to replace the components, yet. I have a large pleated paper cartridge filter, which I rinse-out when I think of it. I do that < 1 X month. At the suggestion of the Pinch a Penny service tech, I tried running the filter w/o a cartridge, to see what kind of pressure it made, and saw no big difference. I might buy a Hayward filter cartridge from Pinch a Penny just to throw them a bone (I buy liquid chlorine there by the multiple-gallon) but I'm considering a new Hayward pool robot as our Ultra has ceased climbing the walls, and I've rebuilt the innards multiple times. I'd say we've gotten our $'s worth out of it. I suspect it's close-to 10 y.o.

Corelle, I tried once the 'trick' of dropping a plate onto the floor, to show 'how-durable it is,' only to have it break into many sharp pieces! As a kid I toured both Corning Glass Works and Stuben, as an adult, I ate years'-worth of meals off Corelle, having been cooked in Farberware. Tomorrow I'm donating my probably 45+ year-old Farberware to the Goodwill store, my wife prefers All-Clad, and Fiesta Ware dinnerware. I like the Fiesta Ware colors (mixed).
 
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