Montgomery Ward speed master

[No Garage]

Pm sent to you about this box. Thanks


Looking for the following PLVMB/PROTO dual marked combo wrenches- 1208, 1210, 1212, 1224, 1228, 1230, 1240, 1242, 1244, 1246, 1248, 1252

Got a msg that there is a minimum number of posts before I can PM back, as yet have not met the minimum...sorry.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Got a msg that there is a minimum number of posts before I can PM back, as yet have not met the minimum...sorry.

I will send you a pm now with my personal email _

 

[Smokeshow69]

Got a msg that there is a minimum number of posts before I can PM back, as yet have not met the minimum...sorry.

I just sent you an pm showing my personal email...did you see it ?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Just make a few more posts!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Got a msg that there is a minimum number of posts before I can PM back, as yet have not met the minimum...sorry.

In case you cant see my pm's ... feel free to email me at

(email removed as Member No Garage has made contact with me)

I am interested

 

[Username already in use]

Cross posting this 1/4" drive Speedmaster from the ratchet collection thread.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice wardmaster!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well i just happened to jump on ebay to check listings of speed master tools in case someone was selling some things to help me complete sets.... Every once in a while I get lucky... i have already sent the seller a message asking if i can perhaps combine the shipping.... The first lot has an speed master extension in it along with a bunch of plomb ! The second ratchet lot, which is actually labeled as speed master is what I believe is a 3/8 ratchet, 1/2 extension and also a 1/2 drag link socket

 

[bmwrd0]

Smoke, I just picked up a couple of 8-point sockets (1/2, 5/8) and a drag link socket for you. I will throw them in your bucket.

The way it's looking, you are going to be doing a fair bit of trading to pick up that bucket!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Smoke, I just picked up a couple of 8-point sockets (1/2, 5/8) and a drag link socket for you. I will throw them in your bucket.

The way it's looking, you are going to be doing a fair bit of trading to pick up that bucket!

That is awesome! For whatever reason I cant find any extensions or hinge handle aside from the extension I found above but I know one will pop up. I appreciate you putting those in the bucket. At this point i think it has more become a full size garbage can

 

[Smokeshow69]

In other carry box restoration news, I got the clasps and springs separated from the donor box and got paint laid down. You can separate these from the hasp without drilling out the spot welds... I will get these aged and get them on the box and that should complete the restoration of the box. I will take some more pictures once I get my tools I just purchased in it and get the latches on.

 

[captain14]

I found a few pieces of PowerKraft in a small 1/2 socket set of Indestro -Select-.

The PowerKraft are on the left photo. I did not find a PowerKraft thread when I searched .

I found the box in a local thrift store.

The hand carry box had some other vintage hand tools also.

 

[d42jeep]

I found a few pieces of PowerKraft in a small 1/2 socket set of Indestro -Select-.

The PowerKraft are on the left photo. I did not find a PowerKraft thread when I searched .

I found the box in a local thrift store.

The hand carry box had some other vintage hand tools also.

The active Powr-Kraft thread is listed in the sticky at the top of each page.
Here is the link.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387224
-Don

 

[captain14]

Thanks I searched for PowerKraft as spelled on the tools, not Powr-Kraft.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I found a few pieces of PowerKraft in a small 1/2 socket set of Indestro -Select-.

The PowerKraft are on the left photo. I did not find a PowerKraft thread when I searched .

I found the box in a local thrift store.

The hand carry box had some other vintage hand tools also.

Those are nice tools but not in the correct thread But I do get the montgomery ward connection... There is a powrkraft thread ...

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387224

 

[Smokeshow69]

I got my lots off ebay and got the tools sorted and in the box...I got these 8 pt sockets, extension, drag link socket and also got the seller to throw in some deep sockets as well. I haven't seen the deeps before but know that it would be logical that they would be sold.... I also got the latches on the on box so now at least the box is complete... I still need more pieces for the set itself but we are finally getting somewhere. I got the minty fleet branded ratchet in one of the lots. Interesting how this 1/2 drive one follows the fleet branded one while the 3/8 one is the oval shaped...

 

[bmwrd0]

Do you need a 1/2 SpeedMaster ratchet? If so, I have one I could spare...

I will toss it into your bucket!

 

[d42jeep]

I got my lots off ebay and got the tools sorted and in the box...I got these 8 pt sockets, extension, drag link socket and also got the seller to throw in some deep sockets as well. I haven't seen the deeps before but know that it would be logical that they would be sold.... I also got the latches on the on box so now at least the box is complete... I still need more pieces for the set itself but we are finally getting somewhere. I got the minty fleet branded ratchet in one of the lots. Interesting how this 1/2 drive one follows the fleet branded one while the 3/8 one is the oval shaped...

That’s a very cool and unique set!
-Don

 

[Smokeshow69]

Do you need a 1/2 SpeedMaster ratchet? If so, I have one I could spare...

I will toss it into your bucket!

I do have one but i do know someone who would be tickled pink to get one...I would be over the moon to find a hinge handle and the associated u joint!. I appreciate you putting it in the bucket

 

[Smokeshow69]

That’s a very cool and unique set!
-Don

Thanks Don! It is getting closer to being a usable set.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice progress! Here is I think a complete one. Looks like you just need a t-handle, breaker bar and a u joint.

 

[bmwrd0]

I do have one but i do know someone who would be tickled pink to get one...I would be over the moon to find a hinge handle and the associated u joint!. I appreciate you putting it in the bucket

Well, I am looking for one in the Challenger flavor if you happen to run across a spare.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice progress! Here is I think a complete one. Looks like you just need a t-handle, breaker bar and a u joint.

Well, I am looking for one in the Challenger flavor if you happen to run across a spare.

Thanks! I am getting closer for sure... but now I have to track down the deep socket set and then the 3/8 set

 

[bmwrd0]

OTG, what are the dimensions on that box? I just picked up an old Challenger square corner box, which I cannot find in any catalog I have access to. But that one looks suspiciously similar.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

19x7 1/4. I have a challenger one about same size as well.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Here is an updated list of what I am needing for my 3 speed master sets... if you guys have any of these let me know

1/4-drive
-standard depth-3/16, 7/32, 1/4,3/8,7/16
any extensions
t handle
box with embossed logo

3/8 drive- anything aside from the ratchet

1/2 drive
19/32, 3/4, 25/32, 1-1/16 standard depth sockets
t bar
hinge handle
universal joint
short extension (5"?)

8 pt sockets-11/16

Deep 1/2 drive sockets- 1/2, 9/16, 5/8, 11/16, 3/4, 13/16, 15/16

Thanks.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Here is an updated list of what I am needing for my 3 speed master sets... if you guys have any of these let me know

1/4-drive
-standard depth-3/16, 7/32, 1/4,3/8,7/16
any extensions
t handle
box with embossed logo

3/8 drive- anything aside from the ratchet

1/2 drive
19/32, 3/4, 25/32, 1-1/16 standard depth sockets
t bar
hinge handle
universal joint
short extension (5"?)

8 pt sockets-11/16

Deep 1/2 drive sockets- 1/2, 9/16, 5/8, 11/16, 3/4, 13/16, 15/16

Thanks.

I just scored something off ebay that should wipe out a bit of this list! I am super excited...I will share more once i get it... It wasnt listed long before I sent the seller an offer This hunt has been about 3 years in the making for me....

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Speedmaster stuff is not super easy to find. Far less common than craftsman stuff.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Speedmaster stuff is not super easy to find. Far less common than craftsman stuff.

"Far less common than most craftsman stuff There I fixed it for you But yes, most folks dont really pay attention to the speedmaster stuff... I know I have passed up quite a bit of stuff over the years... At least now I know how to determine if it is wright made or if it was pennens made

 

[Oldtuleguy]

It's a bit addictive. Trying to find all the variations can become an obsession

 

[Smokeshow69]

It's a bit addictive. Trying to find all the variations can become an obsession

Yes, very true... I have decided to limit myself to only penens made tools due to the plomb connection, otherwise I would run out of room

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well my ebay purchase arrived... I have been hunting this exact box for 3 years since I found a 1/4 drive ratchet and some loose sockets for $5 at the swap meet in a bucket of water... Now it looks like I shall have extras I still need to inventory this set and get it cleaned up but I am super excited to get this one! It even has the often missing T handle and long extension.. I saw it within a few hours of it being listed and sent the seller an offer of $40...he countered at $45 and I couldnt pay fast enough! No owners markings either!Now I need to find a 3/8 drive set to go with my 1/2 drive carry box.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice. That's always easier if you can find the complete set!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice. That's always easier if you can find the complete set!

I think this set is complete but i don't have access to the catalog's? Anyone know what all came in this set ? I hope someone has a 40's MW catalog that might be able to steer me in the right direction. I would think this set also came with a short extension and possibly a universal joint ?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That is what mine came with. I think it's complete, but a catalog reference would be nice

 

[Smokeshow69]

That is what mine came with. I think it's complete, but a catalog reference would be nice

I looked back at your set and I didn't see a universal joint or a hinge handle ? I wonder if these sets didn't come with them ? Or was it something you bought separate and not many folks did that ?

 

[bmwrd0]

This might be a good resource for Monkey Wards stuff:
https://christmas.musetechnical.com/

It's all the Xmas wish books and MW starts with '58.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have a couple, will look them tonight

 

[Smokeshow69]

This might be a good resource for Monkey Wards stuff:
https://christmas.musetechnical.com/

It's all the Xmas wish books and MW starts with '58.

Those are a great resource but no luck...MW starts at 1942 but it is just some seasonal christmas gifts with no real tools.. then the 58' is listing powr kraft so that was post speedmaster ..

 

[Oldtuleguy]

The 55 56 powermaster catalog shows wright made speedmaster sets on page 42, similar to these.