New house purchase. Garage question

[ordpete944]

Hello all.

I have been in here awhile and built my attached CMU two car about 6 years ago. I did all the work by myself start to finish.

My wife and I are closing on a new to us used house that has a detached 30x60 foot with 3 garage doors and one man door. It is CMU construction and the walls are 9 ft tall as measured to the top course. I have a 30 ft long class c rv that is roughly 11 ft tall and want to have it stored inside.
I understand that I would have to raise the roof line and add about 6 courses of block to one bay.


The issue I am having is how I would tie in the roof line. It has the weirdest 3 height hip roof set up and I only wanted to increase the the height in one of the bays.

I understand I will have to have an architect and engineer draw plans. I am trying to brain storm and ask how everyone on GJ would approach the task. I would be doing as much of the with as I could.

I am including pictures. Please note that the back roofline facing the neighbors is all the same level and pitch.

I haven't hosted photos in years and apologize of they are messed up.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Pete

https://www.flickr.com/photos/192333899@N08/50977891411/in/dateposted-public/

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This is inside the garage looking to the left at the smaller garage bay. I measured the highest point of the rafters in the middle bay at 17 ft.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/192333899@N08/50977194073/in/dateposted-public/

 

[tjpavlov]

Maybe hide a bigger door under a shed dormer in the middle bay?

 

[ordpete944]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/192333899@N08/50978073472/in/dateposted-public/

if you zoom in you can see that the middle roof line actually has about a 5 ft overhang off the front of the garage. That is kind of why I think they did the weird three different level roof lines for the overhang. However it makes it more difficult if I'm going to want to raise the garage door in the middle because the roof will be in the way

 

[AZ Pete]

dormers front back on the center bay? That may not give you the best interior lay out, but seems the simplest to get the height you need.

 

[mcj115]

Do you want/ need to keep the hip style roof? You could convert one of the sides to a basic shed roof and put a door in the side without even possibly making the building taller.

 

[ordpete944]

Do you want/ need to keep the hip style roof? You could convert one of the sides to a basic shed roof and put a door in the side without even possibly making the building taller.

I don't need to keep the hip roof. I was thinking of ripping off the whole roof on the left most garage bay and just adding courses to those walls. I could then figure out a different roof line. I am in Florida so I know hip roofs are preferred for wind. I am also wanting it to make it match aestheticly.

 

[CraigStu]

I don't need to keep the hip roof. I was thinking of ripping off the whole roof on the left most garage bay and just adding courses to those walls. I could then figure out a different roof line. I am in Florida so I know hip roofs are preferred for wind. I am also wanting it to make it match aestheticly.

I think that is going to be the best plan. Aesthetically matching will be tough. The roof is symmetrical now and I don't see a way to keep it symmetrical so I think you just do the best you can and live w/ it.

 

[rpcraft]

Personally I would just add a covered parking on the end and leave the RV there if just keeping it covered is your concern. Keep a crushed granite surface under it rather than concrete and combined with the covered area should keep it clean and serviceable far better than wasting space inside your garage parking it there.

 

[ace10]

Are you certain that a 30' RV will fit inside the 30' deep garage?

Assuming it does fit, and you use the center bay, will you be happy with 2 small garage spaces, where the one on the left will only be accessible from the overhead door?

At first glance the obvious solution, assuming the bay length is sufficient, would be to raise the entire roof and install a taller door in the bay of your choosing.

 

[firebirdparts]

That is curious. If you were to raise one end, and turn the roofline 90 degrees on that end, it would certainly look strange, but maybe not terribly so. Need some sketches.
Structurally, you probably would not want that section of the roof to overhang as much as the center part does. on the other hand, isn't the 30 foot building too small anyway to hold a 30 foot RV? Or is it going to fit?

If you do away with the hips and just have one section higher up, I think that might look a little better.

If you put the RV in the middle, it could end up looking kinda like it looks now.

 

[firebirdparts]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/192333899@N08/50978073472/in/dateposted-public/

if you zoom in you can see that the middle roof line actually has about a 5 ft overhang off the front of the garage. That is kind of why I think they did the weird three different level roof lines for the overhang. However it makes it more difficult if I'm going to want to raise the garage door in the middle because the roof will be in the way

I think it's the opposite. In the middle section, the rafters are already too high, like you want them. You could raise the building up to meet them and leave the sheeting intact, if you wanted to. You'd probably have to design it yourself. Professionals work fast and they don't do that sort of thing.

 

[ordpete944]

Personally I would just add a covered parking on the end and leave the RV there if just keeping it covered is your concern. Keep a crushed granite surface under it rather than concrete and combined with the covered area should keep it clean and serviceable far better than wasting space inside your garage parking it there.

HOA won't allow it. Everything has to match with the wall construction and roofing material. I would love to be able to do a nice lean-to but the roof line isn't high enough. The RV is 11 ft tall.

 

[ordpete944]

Are you certain that a 30' RV will fit inside the 30' deep garage?

Assuming it does fit, and you use the center bay, will you be happy with 2 small garage spaces, where the one on the left will only be accessible from the overhead door?

At first glance the obvious solution, assuming the bay length is sufficient, would be to raise the entire roof and install a taller door in the bay of your choosing.

I will have to.bump out the wall to.make it longer too. I do not think the RV would fit with the door. The weird roof lines are throwing me off on how to simply mate up a new roofline to achieve the higher wall.

I am thinking a visit to an architect is go my to be the first step.

 

[rpcraft]

HOA won't allow it. Everything has to match with the wall construction and roofing material. I would love to be able to do a nice lean-to but the roof line isn't high enough. The RV is 11 ft tall.

I refuse to live anywhere with a HOA. I try not to have my place look like a dump but having someone regulate what I can add on to my shop is never going to happen, lol.

 

[firebirdparts]

I know I already posted twice, but I do think you want to put the RV on the end for enjoyment of the rest of the building, and to isolate where the bumpout has to be. That's going to mean a higher roofline on one end. You can rotate it whichever way you think looks best. After you do that, I think the hip on the other end will look bad and you'll want to get rid of it.

That could give you potentially 3 roofs oriented the same way but at 3 different levels. That might look pretty good.

 

[lml999]

What about storing the RV offsite?

The $15 or $20K you spend on the garage modification would probably buy 3-8 years of offsite, covered storage, depending on what you find, and you may not recoup a dime of the money you put into the garage...

Just a thought...