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freight or shipping sorta delicate press, about 80 lbs advice

rockwind1

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i need to ship or freight a press type machine (it's not really a drill press but close enough) it is about 20" in depth and 16" wide and about 45" tall.

has anyone done this lately,, know of any good ways to go about it. was thinking ups or fedex but i want to box it up SUPER GOOD and i am trying to figure out how to stabilize it inside the box,,,,,,i was thinking of wrapping it in heavy plastic and using that spray expanding foam to fill in the the rest of the box.

it has a bunch of small linkages and other stuff i don't want to mess with as it is a pain in the a to get it all dialed in again.

any thoughts out there?
 
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If at all possible, I think you will be happier with LTL freight shipping. Bolt it to a pallet, build a crate around it and go. Package shippers are not kind to heavy packages.

DaveW
 

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If at all possible, I think you will be happier with LTL freight shipping. Bolt it to a pallet, build a crate around it and go. Package shippers are not kind to heavy packages.

DaveW

I agree with DavidW. One additional thought. If the crate you intend to build on the pallet is short either:

1) Make it really strong for when they possibly put another pallet on top of it.
2) Make the crate with the top at a steep angle so they cannot put another pallet on top of it.
 

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UPS and Fedex limit weight is 150 lbs per package. USPS is 70lbs.

For USPS, marking the package "CAUTION : LIQUID IN GLASS" is will garner more careful handling and cannot be treated as a reason to reject the package for shipment. Don't know how UPS and Fedex would react to that labeling.
 

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If you decide to box it, make a wooden base just a hair smaller than the box, but larger than the machine base. Bolt the machine to the base, this will prevent it from trying to escape. Similarly the middle and top, attach wood or heavy foam or styrofoam so it can’t wiggle along the box anywhere.
 

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LTL all the way. I like the idea of sloping the top so they can double stack.
 

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Truck freight is the most abusive way to ship in my opinion, if the shipment ever crosses thru a freight terminal. I've been to a few in my life, mostly feared for my life with the forklifts running basically wide open throttle forward and reverse, seen some seriously damaged stuff and gotten some damaged stuff from them stacking things on top of other things.

That said your best insurance for any shipping method is a full 3/4" plywood crate.

That said, I would find a big cardboard box which fits the machine, build the custom crate out of 3/8" ply or osb and 2x2s, and then slide it into the cardboard. Mega tape and you are off.
 
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Check into Fastenal's 3PL shipping also. Items ship from store to store I believe.

I have not used it personally, but the service is popular on some of the other forums for large/heavy car parts and Lawn & Garden equipment.
 

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Truck freight is the most abusive way to ship in my opinion, if the shipment ever crosses thru a freight terminal. I've been to a few in my life, mostly feared for my life with the forklifts running basically wide open throttle forward and reverse, seen some seriously damaged stuff and gotten some damaged stuff from them stacking things on top of other things.

That said your best insurance for any shipping method is a full 3/4" plywood crate.

That said, I would find a big cardboard box which fits the machine, build the custom crate out of 3/8" ply or osb and 2x2s, and then slide it into the cardboard. Mega tape and you are off.

I might have covered this with someone else in another thread, but if it were you, sorry for doubling up - and of course, opinions and experiences vary...not arguing, etc.

In my experience, especially for heavy or bulky stuff, LTL is a way better option than UPS/FedEx package delivery, but you have to crate or pack it securely with what you said above in mind. If they can knock it off the pallet, they will, but IMO you did not do a good enough job crating. But if it stays upright and doesn't break up, it will probably arrive just fine.

A customer bought an engine on eBay shipped direct to us and all the shipper did was set it on a pallet, wedge some 2x4's under the flat parts and throw ONE steel strap over it. It arrived upside down and leaking all over.

Another customer bought a crate engine and it came packaged, well, in a crate. A very well constructed crate. The engine sat in a 2x8 "box that held it by the oil pan railed, then it was bolted via the motor mounts and also strapped down with steet strap in multiple places, all this before a crate being built around it and it clearly marked "no stack".

Its all in the crating/packing. :)

Final example, possibly more relevant - we use magnetic sheeting of various colors to produce on of our main products. It normally ships UPS/FedEx. A 24"x50' roll weighs 75#. When we get the rolls, the cardboard packaging is smashed with no remaining 90 degree corners left. The manufacturer plans on this and the packaging protects the product, but dies doing it. It is obvious they drop it every time they handle it.

Occasionally, we buy 3-4 rolls at once and they ship LTL. It arrives on a pallet, strapped down with 1-2 plastic straps and the boxes perfect condition.

That kind of illustrates how the respective "systems" handle heavy packages to me.

DaveW
 

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Check into Fastenal's 3PL shipping also. Items ship from store to store I believe.

I have not used it personally, but the service is popular on some of the other forums for large/heavy car parts and Lawn & Garden equipment.

This works very well.... I shipped a well crated automatic transmission to Utah
with without any problems.... The price was also cheaper than other methods....

LynnW
 

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LTL can and will **** anything up.

As noted your crate needs to be literally bombproof and idiot-proof. If you meet those requirements it'll arrive merely battered and not completely broken apart.

They'll stack it, cram it, wedge it, drop it, ram it and more. Sounds like a fun night, but it ain't.

Seriously, do not underestimate these guys. Oftentimes the drivers are cool but the warehouse guys running forklifts at the terminals at 4a chugging Monsters and getting paid too little literally just do not care. If they got fired it'd be a blessing for them and they know it.
 
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rockwind1

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Check into Fastenal's 3PL shipping also. Items ship from store to store I believe.

I have not used it personally, but the service is popular on some of the other forums for large/heavy car parts and Lawn & Garden equipment.


went to fastenal 3pl and they have this:

Effective immediately, all Blue Lane Freight Services to and from Public Stores and Distribution Centers have been suspended until further notice.
 

39CAMC

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LTL can and will **** anything up.

As noted your crate needs to be literally bombproof and idiot-proof. If you meet those requirements it'll arrive merely battered and not completely broken apart.

They'll stack it, cram it, wedge it, drop it, ram it and more. Sounds like a fun night, but it ain't.

Seriously, do not underestimate these guys. Oftentimes the drivers are cool but the warehouse guys running forklifts at the terminals at 4a chugging Monsters and getting paid too little literally just do not care. If they got fired it'd be a blessing for them and they know it.

Well, its not like the UPS/FedEx warehouse guys carry your stuff around with padded white gloves:) The only difference is they are not armed with forklifts, but they can still regularly damage rolled goods under 1lb packed in an 18" or 24" long cardboard tube.

DaveW
 

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I've used Fastenal's Blue Line Freight with good results. Currently they have divided the country into essentially 2 zones. You can ship within each zone, but not between them. And covid state restrictions have an effect as well. The last two things I had delivered could not come into Jersey so I had to have them shipped to Philadelphia for pick-up.

Also I don't think you can ship sealed crates. They have to be inspected before sealing.
 
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