2021 Garage Sale Thread

[Private Lugnutz]

Another flea market small haul (Lugz 2021_16) today. It's too bad the little Amprobe is missing a cover plate, because that's the original belt pouch for it. I don't need another 10" Masterrench (I need a 14", and, like everyone else, an 18"), but I keep picking up dupes in hopes of trading for a 14". The midget rat is a Billings, which I never see around here. And some misc elec/ig wrenches.

 

[LesserSon]

I actually did feel a smidge of remorse separating the photo from the frame.

Great Grand-dad!
Just kidding: That guy reminds me of these guys. For years I thought both these counterfeit presentments were of the same man - my great-grandfather. Then I stumbled online upon an identical image of the guy with the bowler. Had an email exchange with the owner and learned it was HIS g-grandfather. As best as I can reconstruct, they were step-brothers born in the same year, each losing one parent during the Civil War. (My g-g-grandfather and g-g-g-grandfather were both blacksmiths, but I think the clothing style is too recent for them, and g-grandfather was a miller.)
I have several reels of Super8 home movies, some filmed around Matawan NJ, that are fascinating time capsules, but I have no idea who the people are, because they came in a boxlot at the flea. People let these things go; often there ARE no survivors to whom to pass them along.
Yeah, that guy from your frame may belong to someone’s family, but without an inscription, practically impossible to identify. Even if someone “recognizes” the subject, they may be wrong. You could probably sell it anyway, and the shipping would be cheap.

Nice Frame.

BTW, I have a couple long-lost relatives of your other find, too.

 

[LesserSon]

3bay, nice Craftsman finds! Love those hammers.
LesserDaughter2 sent me a search order for such a wire gauge, and also parallel pliers, but the weather and work commitments have penned me in the past few weeks. I have some hope of getting out tomorrow, though my favorite spots are still closed for the season.

bmwrd0, that unmarked 4pt socket looks a lot like the presumed Bog that Provincial posted recently. Is it square or hex drive?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

All those oldtimey photos look like Wyatt Earp to me. My paternal GGD was a cooper in the old country. My maternal GGD was a farmer. There is an inscription on the back, but I was only interested in the date, which is too hard to make out. It's 19th century. Even when I find something that is chockful of unambiguous biographical data (such as those WWII mechanics training folders I found last year...), I never try to track family down. It's normally the survivor's who discarded it to be begin with. My squeamishness was generic, regardless of who actually made the frame. But I have a feeling its original intent will live on.

That's a nice keyhole saw with the DISSTON forged on it. I wonder which came first.

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Here's the Amprobe..., and a 1952 Pop Mech ad.

 

[3baygarage]

Model Maker. Huh. Nice and small, looking at the sizes. I have never seen those before.

I want to say I found and posted one last year or year before. It's go to be in with my drawer of hammers. I had never heard of it either.

That's "66.6" upside down, 3bay. And since it's cursed, you should just send it to me.

Seriously, I have exactly one (1) Bluegrass tool, a ball-pein hammer, but I don't have to tell you that if you're not keeping that, there are guys with dozens of Bluegrass tools who would open up their wallets 10x $10, at a minimum, for a box with that decal. In fact, a friend of mine in Tennessee.

Nice find.

Haha. I have some Bluegrass, not enough to fill the box, but I like that the tray is built for a socket set.

Nice find on the Billings. That's a tougher one to find.

3bay, nice Craftsman finds! Love those hammers.
LesserDaughter2 sent me a search order for such a wire gauge, and also parallel pliers, but the weather and work commitments have penned me in the past few weeks. I have some hope of getting out tomorrow, though my favorite spots are still closed for the season.

Thanks. Never had a wire gauge before either that I recall, I was planning to keep it around as a just in case tool.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Nice find on the Billings. That's a tougher one to find.

Thanks. I just posted it on the Billings thread. School me.

 

[LesserSon]

I wonder which came first.

Hmmm...I am glad to see from your trunk pic that I have kept the right thumb screw in the pat’d one. The branded one has a keystone motif on a dial-like screw, instead.
I don’t know which came first. I had assumed the one with the patent notification, because I have read that Disston was militant in litigating patent infringements, and I would think that “patent applied for” or “patent pending” would be the only precursors to the patent granted date.
The fancy thumbscrew seems to be an unnecessary extra cost, though, which would seem to argue an earlier version, as cost-cutting is the usual evolutionary path for manufacturing. All considered, I prefer thinking the patent notice is the earlier version. Possibly, catalog illustration could settle the question.

EDIT - There is no similar item in the 1873 Shannon catalog, so I’m guessing there is no precusor to 1877.
The standard thumbscrew version appears in the 1891 Graham catalog.

The one with the disk thumbscrew appears in the 1918 catalog.

The illustrations do not show the side with the raised lettering, so I’m doubly glad about the thumbscrews.
As you can see, there’s another variation to look for, too.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

EDIT - The Disston-marked one with the disk thumbscrew appears in the 1918 catalog...[ ]...I’m guessing there is no precusor to 1877.

Thanks.

 

[wrenchguy]

Finally snagged some stuff from local online auction.

Dunlap 12x16" benchtop saw with "F5 49" 1/2hp underline "C" Craftsman motor.





Maybe a watering can of some sort? Maybe early gas station, well made with bulk headed handle and top. The 9 1/2" by 11 1/2" cylinder is 2 piece. Spout diameter is 1 1/4".
I can't tell if its galvanized, but looks to held heavy oil many decades.

 

[Outlawmws]

WrenchGuy, you got the "BIG" tilting table saw! Mine is 1935/6 (Companion), and is 11-1/4 X 14-1/2

 

[wrenchguy]

WrenchGuy, you got the "BIG" tilting table saw! Mine is 1935/6 (Companion), and is 11-1/4 X 14-1/2

Is that the smallest? I'm thinking the 30's sears walker turner made one as being the smallest??? Maybe the Companion is walker turner made???
thanks.

 

[Old Radar]

Took a drive 45 minutes south to Pleasanton--the only sale this week with any tools. Missed out on the first day because I wasn't looking that far away. The former owner apparently was into Model A Fords--among myriad parts there was a complete recently restored engine. He also collected automotive oriented signage--from gas station signs to road signs and everything in between.

There were a lot of Craftsman sockets and extensions--not much in the way of ratchets. Unfortunately, the estate sale operators chose to fill mayonnaise jars and zip-lock bags with sockets based on drive size--irrespective of manufacturer--and no, we don't want you cherry-picking individual sockets out of the jars...

Even with 25% off, the prices were higher than I usually like to pay, but when you haven't had a fix in a couple of weeks... Everything out the door was $61, with the Williams case and enclosed tools accounting for half that.

I haven't figured out which set the Williams case was designed for, but definitely a 3/8" drive set. What Williams tools it contained are all fairly late-model.

Beyond the set items in the main compartments, the miscellaneous sockets on the LHS include a few Proto Professionals, a couple of Blackhawk, a Williams 1/2" drive socket, a Plomb 1/2" drive socket and a CM Long C (BE) 1/4" drive. The case also contained an L.S. Starrett 4.5" outside caliper.

The remaining items are a Nicholson file comb, $2
Snap-on F-4-D Ferret speeder with an E code (1944), $4
Plomb WF-23 speeder, Plomb Pebble 5466 hinge handle and a Plomb WF-18 extension, $13
Snap-on SV10A 1/2" hinge handle, $10
Empty Proto Pro socket carrier, $1

 

[RedVise]

Some Fridays finds! A rough lantern from Germany, an Aida Express 1500.
And a couple of nice smalls, a K&E NY plumb bob and a small cast iron pot.

ANyone ever ship a lantern before? Best way to keep the globe intact ?
I would guess packing the globe separately.


Brian

 

[LesserSon]

Crawled through three antiques shops in Quakertown this morning.
I don’t collect axes (yet), but because of 3bay’s box this Bluegrass head caught my eye today. (Not purchased) Same shop had a nice No7 Disston handsaw from the 1880s for $18, and a bundle of wrenches that included a Bonney 552 & 553 (not the AS versions) for $40...but I didn’t buy any of that, either.

I did pick up this 1” “scooped-box” Barcalo combo.

 

[JABgj]

Dropping of some bagels at my Mom's house this AM I saw a "FREE" sign and an assortment of tools at a house nearby. I picked a made in W. Germany 3 1/4 lb. axe with a decent handle, a lock nut wrench, a Stanley framing hammer head and a Chinesium gear puller and a working(!) Technics receiver (no pic) for the garage. FREE is my favorite price.

 

[Levaughn]

I picked up these items at an Estate Sale today. I paid $15 for the Job Mate box. It had a Skilshop model # 1710 drill in it. I went to give the sale person the drill and was told to keep it. The items in the other picture I paid $5 for are a Blue Bird Battery #21 Terminal Puller and a K-D #202 Battery Terminal Puller. The item under the box of springs is unknown, but if anyone knows thanks.

 

[JABgj]

"The item under the box of springs is unknown"...Might be a flywheel puller for a small engine or motorcycle. A puller of some kind.

 

[Levaughn]

"The item under the box of springs is unknown"...Might be a flywheel puller for a small engine or motorcycle. A puller of some kind.

It's about 2 1/2 inches long.

 

[dkroth]

It's about 2 1/2 inches long.

Looks like a machinist's jack.










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[mikeinri]

Some Fridays finds! A rough lantern from Germany, an Aida Express 1500.
And a couple of nice smalls, a K&E NY plumb bob and a small cast iron pot.

ANyone ever ship a lantern before? Best way to keep the globe intact ?
I would guess packing the globe separately.

That IS a tiny cast iron pot! I'd think Outlaw would be the most knowledgeable about shipping lanterns/globes.

Dropping of some bagels at my Mom's house this AM I saw a "FREE" sign and an assortment of tools at a house nearby. I picked a made in W. Germany 3 1/4 lb. axe with a decent handle, a lock nut wrench, a Stanley framing hammer head and a Chinesium gear puller and a working(!) Technics receiver (no pic) for the garage. FREE is my favorite price.

You ****! Free is ALWAYS the best price!

I picked up these items at an Estate Sale today. I paid $15 for the Job Mate box. It had a Skilshop model # 1710 drill in it. I went to give the sale person the drill and was told to keep it. The items in the other picture I paid $5 for are a Blue Bird Battery #21 Terminal Puller and a K-D #202 Battery Terminal Puller. The item under the box of springs is unknown, but if anyone knows thanks.

You also ****! I don't know anything about Job Mate, but a steel cabinet for $15 is fantastic, even without the drill!!!

Mike

 

[Provincial]

+1 on the machinist's jack. Probably home-made.

 

[Outlawmws]

Anyone ever ship a lantern before? Best way to keep the globe intact ?
I would guess packing the globe separately.


Brian

That IS a tiny cast iron pot! I'd think Outlaw would be the most knowledgeable about shipping lanterns/globes.


Mike

Best way I have seen is to bubble pack the globe inside a Coffee can, with the lid taped on. one of those heavy cardboard concrete form tubes might also work. - lacking either of those, bubble pack and box, then a second box - Keep in mind though you have a heck of a "hammer" as the lanterns get heavy when in a shock load inside the box!

Original globes for older lanterns are getting VERY expensive so DO take care of them!

 

[mikeinri]

Thanks Outlaw, I knew you'd have a good idea! You bring up some interesting points:

Would it be best to ship the globe separately (so the lantern can't smash into it)? I know that may double the shipping cost (two separate packages), but if it's rare/valuable, might be worth it. I'd probably inquire into buying more/enough insurance to cover breakage during shipping.

Thinking back to buying my Coleman lantern, I believe it came with the globe installed (there really isn't a half inch of room to spare in its box). It may have had some foam wrap around the globe, and maybe between the edges of the globe and the metal housing. Something like this stuff for wrapping china (dishes):

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-12-in-x-1-ft-Foam-Foam-Pouches/1000083515

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-12-in-x-75-ft-Plastic-Packing-Foam/1000126249

Mike

 

[RedVise]

Outlaw, Mikeinri, thanks for the good ideas on shipping.

Mike, here's a couple of other small cast iron pieces, seems to be mostly promotional stuff.
As I like smalls I have been looking for them.

Any woodworkers familiar with this Japanese (?) pull saw ?
Picked it up on a whim, hard to search using the Japanese characters.

Thanks Brian

 

[mikeinri]

Cool stuff, RedVise!

Mike

 

[Outlawmws]

Is that the smallest? I'm thinking the 30's sears walker turner made one as being the smallest??? Maybe the Companion is walker turner made???
thanks.

Mine is the 7" made by Central Specialty Division, a division of King Seely

There was a 6" that had a 10X13 table size. I don't think it had any tilting capability or adjustment for blade height?

 

[Outlawmws]

Mike, As long as things are kept separated it should be OK, However you ahve a point on both package size adn two packages. The box as a single shippment does get larger so it MAY not be as bad for increased costs, as the globe is light. Some longer packages get pricey...

I HAVE seen some globes survive simply with packing inside and out installed, but also seen many guys get burned with busted globes... so its frowned on in the "Lantern community"...

Red, that smallest one probably is promotional, but they are also ashtrays - Does the slightly larger one have raised letters cast in also? If so, same deal - sort of like the little tires the big tire mfgs made, and had a glass center pushed in...

The small pot may be a smelting pot for lead? Smaller jobs of course.

I love my Japanese pull saws! Nice find!

 

[mikeinri]

That's why we defer to you on the lantern advice, Outlaw!

Mike

 

[RedVise]

I HAVE seen some globes survive simply with packing inside and out installed, but also seen many guys get burned with busted globes... so its frowned on in the "Lantern community"...

Red, that smallest one probably is promotional, but they are also ashtrays - Does the slightly larger one have raised letters cast in also? If so, same deal - sort of like the little tires the big tire mfgs made, and had a glass center pushed in...

The small pot may be a smelting pot for lead? Smaller jobs of course.

I ended up listing the globe and lantern separately, and was able to bubble wrap the globe and slide it into a plastic coffee container for shipping. Assuming it sells. I took your words to heart Outlaw and asked a pretty penny for the globe.

Both of the little skillets have promo names in them.

Brian

 

[bmwrd0]

Some nice finds everyone, good to see you all out there!

I hit four sales yesterday, all of which looked great on paper (or online ads) but were rather disappointing. But, that is how it goes sometimes. Anyway, without further ado:


The first had what would have made the best shop space I have seen in years; side rooms, a space for the lathe, a '68 Mustang being worked on in the back, and an equally sized building two doors down to keep the sport fishing boat in, along with another lathe. But I am guessing that someone went through the tools before the sale, as there is only cheap '70s Kmart type **** for the most part. Anyway, I did manage to scrounge up a Penens ratchet, a sparker for a torch, Proto Williams and D-I 1/2" sockets, and a 3/8" New Britain. Oh, and I picked up a decent copy of an early Zane Grey western:
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The next stop was an interesting place, another with a great garage, and no tools. But I did manage to find these:

a Craftsman 1/4 box and a steady rest. Too tall for my lathe, sadly. It seems to be the right size for a 9" swing.

Next was advertised as a tool and guy sale, and it was if you are into overpriced newer Craftsman. But I dug through the offerings and found the following:

Two Walden Spintite spinners, a Blackhawk grip, and a Heritage sharpening stone.

The last sale I hit wasn't tool-related at all but was the sale of an online book dealer.

Liza of Lambeth is W. Somerset Maugham's first book, although this edition is from 1936. And Mignon Eberhart is best described as the US Agatha Christie. But, again, it was a very disappointing sale. Mostly 70's through modern bestsellers, all of which were past their sell-by-dates.

I don't mean to sound too down about the sales, as this is what sometimes happens.

 

[RTM]

My meager finds for the weekend, a couple of 42” usable 3/4” pipe clamps, a folding army shovel, a box of grommets, and a couple of boxes of hardware, mostly SS, from a dismantled deck. Buried inside were 2 boxes of non SS screws. Only one moving sale on the coast this weekend, a step up from the previous few weekends. Not much over the hill worth venturing out to look at.

 

[Outlawmws]

Folding Army shovels from WWII are always a good score! Is it Dated ? MFG?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Took a drive 45 minutes south to Pleasanton--the only sale this week with any tools. Missed out on the first day because I wasn't looking that far away. The former owner apparently was into Model A Fords--among myriad parts there was a complete recently restored engine. He also collected automotive oriented signage--from gas station signs to road signs and everything in between.

There were a lot of Craftsman sockets and extensions--not much in the way of ratchets. Unfortunately, the estate sale operators chose to fill mayonnaise jars and zip-lock bags with sockets based on drive size--irrespective of manufacturer--and no, we don't want you cherry-picking individual sockets out of the jars...

Even with 25% off, the prices were higher than I usually like to pay, but when you haven't had a fix in a couple of weeks... Everything out the door was $61, with the Williams case and enclosed tools accounting for half that.

I haven't figured out which set the Williams case was designed for, but definitely a 3/8" drive set. What Williams tools it contained are all fairly late-model.

Beyond the set items in the main compartments, the miscellaneous sockets on the LHS include a few Proto Professionals, a couple of Blackhawk, a Williams 1/2" drive socket, a Plomb 1/2" drive socket and a CM Long C (BE) 1/4" drive. The case also contained an L.S. Starrett 4.5" outside caliper.

The remaining items are a Nicholson file comb, $2
Snap-on F-4-D Ferret speeder with an E code (1944), $4
Plomb WF-23 speeder, Plomb Pebble 5466 hinge handle and a Plomb WF-18 extension, $13
Snap-on SV10A 1/2" hinge handle, $10
Empty Proto Pro socket carrier, $1

I am glad to see you found a williams metal box but it looks a little bit newer than you were looking for earlier this year ?

 

[Jim_No_Garage]

Any woodworkers familiar with this Japanese (?) pull saw ?
Picked it up on a whim, hard to search using the Japanese characters.

Made in China?

 

[RedVise]

Made in China?

Might be! There are only characters on the saw blade and handle, no english.
I dont know the difference between Chinese and Japanese characters.
I tried doing an image search and the blade characters came back as "Solid".
I have no idea if that is valid...

Brian

 

[LesserSon]

If you have a smartphone, there are free translate apps that you can use with the built-in camera. (Free of course, because they collect data on you, which may be a consideration.)

Japanese writing can use multiple systems together - characters that represent ideas can mix with characters that represent sounds, for instance. I think some of the characters (more in the outer ring) look like those phonetic ones, though they are not clear. The non-phonetic characters can often be read in multiple languages (Chinese), though there can be style differences, and context can give the characters very different meaning. I picked up a tin at a garage sale and tried the Google app. Depending on the input language, the “meaning” varied quite hilariously. Selecting Japanese gave me the most sensible translation, which turned out to be the ingredients of the original contents (food), and I think the name of the processing plant.

 

[LesserSon]

Folding Army shovels from WWII are always a good score! Is it Dated ? MFG?

We should make a pool. I say Ames 1945.

 

[3baygarage]

BMW- nice find on that Blackhawk spinner.

Flea finds this week, had a nice Snap-On and Blue-Point day.

-Snap On SAE ratcheting wrenches to go with my metric set
-Snap On flat blade
-Snap On/Blue Point 18” and 15” adjustables
-small wrenches- S-K combo, Blue Point small open ends, Plomb ignition wrench
-John Deere adjustable
-Easco saw
-Craftsman Pro screwdriver
-ratchets- Proto N-38, Master Mechanic rhft, unmarked 1/2” hex drive that looks like Indestro
-long Pexto pliers
- old Billings and Spencer pliers
-sockets- Mac impact, Craftsman black knurl bands and an 8 pt,3/8 female connector

 

[steaks&anvils]

My meager finds for the weekend, a couple of 42” usable 3/4” pipe clamps, a folding army shovel, a box of grommets, and a couple of boxes of hardware, mostly SS, from a dismantled deck. Buried inside were 2 boxes of non SS screws. Only one moving sale on the coast this weekend, a step up from the previous few weekends. Not much over the hill worth venturing out to look at.

Folding Army shovels from WWII are always a good score! Is it Dated ? MFG?

We should make a pool. I say Ames 1945.

I thought the pertinent question was what GAUGE steel it was made of?

 

[Old Radar]

I am glad to see you found a williams metal box but it looks a little bit newer than you were looking for earlier this year ?

I think you must be right, Smoke. I've perused the Williams catalogs on archive.org and there are none that match the dimensions or the layout of the one I have.

Mrs. Radar & I took our wannabe garage dog to the park on Saturday, followed by lunch at the old Pearl Brewery in downtown S.A. She felt like continuing the outing and agreed to my suggestion of a return to the Pleasanton sale for their 50% off day. From downtown, it was only 20 minutes away.

She didn't find anything that interested her but I did some negotiations with the seller and came away with these two items that were initially priced to stay rooted to the tables--$375 & $25 respectively.

I pointed out that the "antique" Wilton was built in '66, had a non-Wilton swivel lock, a bent handle, a bent endcap and worn, loose jaws. I offered $100 and he wanted $150. We worked our way to $120 & $125 and I said I'd do $125 if he threw in the Craftsman set. He grumbled for a bit but agreed. The sliding T doesn't go with the set, but was part of the deal.

The CM set was in the catalogs from the early 40's to the 1964. This set has all 12pt =v= sockets except the largest, 1-1/8", which is Circle H. Transition year between the two series?