Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT finally my 400 sqft shop build

[The Cobbler]

Got my final inspection yesterday for the build. A few odds & ends left like caulking, door knobs/locks etc but the inspector wasn't concerned. Again, he didn't spend more than 30 seconds here. Some people I know get put through hoops on inspections, I've always been fortunate with them that I dont get any hassles.Now I can move to the inside and start electrical , insulation etc .

 

[captain14]

Nice looking garage. Hope to see you get the interior fitted out like you want it.

 

[taumac]

Great looking garage. Congrats.

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

My dream is to install a welding circuit. I just don't have the space at my current house unfortunately.

 

[Bib Overalls]

My dream is to install a welding circuit. I just don't have the space at my current house unfortunately.

Are you talking about space in your circuit breaker panel? If yes, you can usually free up a couple of spaces using duplex circuit breakers.

A welding circuit is usually wired for 50 amps. #6 copper wire is usually adequate.

I have a welding outlet connected to my shop's electric panel with about a foot or two of conduit. You can see it just to the right of the panel in the picture below. I have about $20 in it.

I don't own a welder but occasionally a friend will bring one over for a project. When he does we either bring the project to the welder or use an extension cord that he has made out of heavy industrial cable.

If you plan on moving then an extension cable is an investment that you can take with you.

 

[The Cobbler]

Been a long time since I posted in the thread. work & procrastination got in the way.
I have run hydro , nat gas and a few extra conduits to the garage . oh,3/4 pex for water too.
have installed insulation baffles, and 6 mil poly on the ceiling as well as hung the 30k btu MOdine heater . all rough in wiring and some lights and plugs so I can work without extension cords.
just working on the pine T& G for my ceiling. more on that in this thread http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6192186#post6192186

here's a few pics of my wood with brine solution applied to make the new wood look old.

 

[The Cobbler]

Getting the ceiling installed.
Showing my T&G pine ceiling. the joints you see will have fake beams spanning the width . plan to do post & beam look. got some of the lights installed too

 

[CoyoteDuster]

Ceiling looks nice. What sort of work do you plan to do inside? My garage/shop plan is exactly 400s.f as well, limited by ordinance. One car plus plenty of bench and tool space should fit.


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[The Cobbler]

Thanks, I too was limited to size unless I applied for a variance ,with no guarantees that it would have been approved. plan to use it as storage for my work, plus hobby and hang out space .
I'm thinking of spraying the light fixtures a different colour on the outside .

 

[The Cobbler]

I got the T&G on a deal from one of my suppliers. most of it was 6' ,the manager said they have a hard time selling 6 footers so he wanted to clear it out. included in the pile was several cull pcs that were not saleable either but it was kind of cut a foot off, or cut an 8' into a 3'&4' type of thing. there wasn't actually very much footage that I couldn't use. . Again the deal was take it all for a price, no picking or sorting. the deal was good enough that I bought it. I could have used it for firewood and still consider it cheap LOL .as a result there are some boards that I had to join in the 6' bays, but they are interspersed and I did my best to match tone & grain so it's not real apparent. the seams at the 6' intervals will be hidden with rough sawn pine "fake" beams

 

[WeekendWarrior83]

Garage looks great! Mind if I ask who you used for concrete? I'm in your area and looking for concrete guys.

 

[The Cobbler]

Garage looks great! Mind if I ask who you used for concrete? I'm in your area and looking for concrete guys.

Thanks!
I did the forming and used my friends neighbor for the pour/finishing. ,not sure if he would take anything on or not as he works ft at another job in concrete and did this on the side .

 

[y'sguy]

Very nice build. I'm just catching up.
I also did a ceiling similar to yours. I pre-sprayed all the stock with a dove- gray glaze and installed it in our living room. Turned out beautiful and I will probably do it again on my next studio/garage build.

 

[PhantomEB]

Are you talking about space in your circuit breaker panel? If yes, you can usually free up a couple of spaces using duplex circuit breakers.

I used duplex circuit breakers in my shop as I wanted alternate runs on each wall.

Now moving into my basement and swapping out a lot of the circuit breakers to Duplex (spacesavers) as I need a lot more room in the box than the home builder planned for. Best things going!

 

[WeekendWarrior83]

Thanks!
I did the forming and used my friends neighbor for the pour/finishing. ,not sure if he would take anything on or not as he works ft at another job in concrete and did this on the side .

No worries.

Were they able to get the cement truck down your driveway or did you guys have to cart all the concrete via wheelbarrow?

 

[The Cobbler]

had the trucks on the driveway .had multiple layers of chip board lining the driveway , extra thick where the truck parked. minimal depression where it sat.

 

[Dr Stan]

Same size as my first one as it too was space limited. A previous owner had added on to an existing building and to say the least it was not done well. Ended up tearing it down one wall at a time. The back wall was right on the lot line so I knew I'd never get away with a demo then building back on the same spot.

He had also butted siding up against siding at a 90 degree angle then filled up the gap with gobs of caulking to sorta stop the leaking.

Neighbor 2 doors down decided to be a #itch and called planning & zoning on me. Since I was only repairing the building there was no violation and she did not get her way as she was expecting.

Last but far from least that is a very nice looking shop.

 

[The Cobbler]

Just got my final inspection for hydro .
He had issues with a previous line to the shed that I connected to the garage panel (used to run to the house panel ) He said it wasn't wet approved. I said I was pretty sure it was, on closer inspection he apologized ( it was 1995 cable and he said the new stuff is black and this was white, he thought it was 10 gauge instead of 14 . Passed
second concern he had was a 20 amp breaker on the same line to the compressor , he wasn't keen on the overrated since the motor plate didn't say such and such on it. (it's a crappy POS oiless craftsman ) he said he would permit it , but I should change the feed if I intended on keeping the same compressor.
couple of other questions and he passed it . didn't even bother to go inside to check out the main panel or splice where I joined the underground tek cable to romex , he said he saw enough.

 

[TonkaJoe]

Getting the ceiling installed.
Showing my T&G pine ceiling. the joints you see will have fake beams spanning the width . plan to do post & beam look. got some of the lights installed too

Very nice shop, I really like how that ceiling turned out!. I was almost sold on doing the same thing to mine, but I think I saw one too many white steel ceilings and fell for it. I do have to admit, with just the 4 dual bulb t8's I added it's extremely bright out there with all the reflection now. Saw you're from the falls so I had to check your build out!. Fellow Ontarian only an hour West of you, cheers!

 

[lilredex]

Also love that ceiling. Do you have any updates?

A friend did something similar to his garage with Newfoundland Spruce. He has the advantage....has his own saw mill, and next to free logs.

 

[The Cobbler]

sorry no updates. it's been a slow process and have moved a bunch of stuff in so it's tougher to get pictures.
I will do some updates asap

 

[Jtrudel90]

Hey I’m interested in finding out a few things about your build ... I live in Hamilton area and grew up in niagara. I’m wondering how you poured your curb ...? In the photos it looks like a board laying flat around the perimeter... did you pour the curb separate ...?

Just trying to learn as much as I can as this is a little intimidating. Thanks

 

[The Cobbler]

Yes, after the forms were erected I added 1" rough pine to the tops so it would create a 5-1/2" step in the concrete where I later poured the curb on a separate pour. where the doors were I didnt have the step so the floor was flush there.
the only thing I would have done different is to put in rebar to the original pour instead of drilling it in after .

 

[Jtrudel90]

Hey... thanks for clarifying that, I was going to mention that I didn’t see any rebar in your floor pictures I meant to ask you how the curb was secured ( but you drilled rebar after )... also did you do anything special forming wise to keep the inner form board secure ...? The outer one you could use kickers, and brace it. I’m having a hard time understanding what keeps the inner one from bowing

I’ve seen mono pours with the floor and curb and people use grade stakes to hold the inner one up and braces across the top to brace it from bowing out. Is this what you did minus the grade stakes ... ?

 

[The Cobbler]

I used 2x6 for the curb forms with 1/4 ply ripped 1" wider. stapled the ply to the inside 2x6 form, so the 1/4 ply hung over the lip of the original pour , the 2x6 was on top of the floor pour . the outside 2x6 was fastened to the original forms, and braces across the top of them to secure the inside form. when it was all poured I pried the inside form out , and it left a 1/4" gap between the floor & the curb.
did I explain it so it makes sense?

 

[Jtrudel90]

This makes total sense... you would have had essentially a groove all the around the floor after the first pour from the 1x6 board that you left laying flat ... that created a lip for the inner form board with the plywood to catch on to prevent bowing out.
Thanks again for taking the time to explain this.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

Hi Cobbler
Thought I would check out the build of the all knowing wizard of the compressor.
Checked and read your build from the beginning.
Things I like was first the awning under the peak and over the doors. Nice touch!
The T&G Pine looks great on the ceiling, aging it was interesting.
Similar to me it looks like you have no back lane. At least you had access around the side of your existing building. I had to chop in a new door at the back of my single car garage.
Having the compressor in another building would be g eat for noise and space saving.
Looks good Cobbler

 

[Ainsley]

Nice looking shop there! I'm in Niagara as well.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

So what is new in the shop? . Are you too busy moderating?

 

[The Cobbler]

I guess I totally missed your post. not much new. hope to get in there this winter & have some fun

So what is new in the shop? . Are you too busy moderating?