Show off your vintage lathe.

[AdrianBoomer]

Adrian,

Very impressive on the restore, I cant imagine the work needed dealing with a lot of non-standard threads, that would keep you busy. I Love seeing the quick change gear box on a lathe of that age.

When looking at you lathe it keeps reminding me of Rivetts 608 that I had my eyes on; they look similar. Were your bed ways orig. scraped ?

PS> Machinitect, that's an awesome Sydney! Thanks for posting it

MacGee,
These ways were originally scraped. Hendey was at the top of the game during this time period. There are some old pictures floating around of the factory floor with the scraping department hard at work. Hendey was also the first lathe company to utilize a quick change gear box. It is a Norton gear box that Hendey started using in the late 1800s and it was pioneering for it's time. Works super well and the reversing lead screw always the user to thread without a thread dial.

 

[Fretters]

Apart from just a general cleandown & quick fettle when I got it, as was condition. Drummond M type. 3½", (7" using your terminology), lathe.

 

[AdrianBoomer]

Apart from just a general cleandown & quick fettle when I got it, as was condition. Drummond M type. 3½", (7" using your terminology), lathe.

Thats an amazing machine right there. I have always admired these. Very nice!

 

[dutchgray]

Apart from just a general cleandown & quick fettle when I got it, as was condition. Drummond M type. 3½", (7" using your terminology), lathe.

Any lathe is better than no lathe and it is at least well featured considering its age. Plus Drummond's are reasonably common which is always helpful when it comes to parts and information. The motor conversion looks well done also.

 

[Fretters]

Any lathe is better than no lathe and it is at least well featured considering its age. Plus Drummond's are reasonably common which is always helpful when it comes to parts and information. The motor conversion looks well done also.

It's about the biggest I can go, in my new workshop. Does whatever I've thrown at her, so far though.

It's not bad that homemade countershaft unit. Only change I did make to that was to alter the mounting so that it's now bolted to an upright wooden beam, rather than being bolted onto the back of the bed, as it was before. Didn't like the thought of all that weight hanging off the bed.

Dropped on lucky with that one, as it has the tumble reverse mech too, (not currently fitted).

 

[Fretters]

Thats an amazing machine right there. I have always admired these. Very nice!

Cheers. Fortunately it doesn't have too much wear either, so reasonably precise.

 

[Machinitect]

Here’s a video that I just uploaded with more detail on the big Sidney.

 

[oldmachinenut]

My 1941 South Bend 9” model A, 4’ bed

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Roberts,
The two things I had never seen before on any machine are herringbone gears and hirth serration joints. The “clutch” for the feed levers on the apron lock into place with hirth joints. It’s a terrific design.

They are truly the best feed clutches I have ever used. Always engage easily, without a fuss, and can be engaged right up against work without having to leave a gap. Excellent design.

Here’s a video that I just uploaded with more detail on the big Sidney.

Sweet! I'll watch it when I get a chance. I made a video on mine a little while back as well, if anyone is interested. It's not as cool as yours though!

 

[Machinitect]

Bport- just watched your video and really enjoyed it! I should do a more in depth look at the Sidney like you did with yours. Very informative on a machine that doesn’t have a lot of info floating around, and your machine looks GREAT.

You sure are correct not to fall in love with a worn out machine that needs everything, but I just can’t help myself! The worse they look, the more I’m interested. It took weeks to repair my Sidney when I got it.

 

[ez-duzit]

Very nice EZ-Duzit,

Congrats on the new addition. Even has the a local L.A. made KDK tool holder and a Trav-a-Dial.

I love the art deco industrial lines of Monarch's. I'm very jealous

May you have many chips on your floor

Had a great time with you visiting my shop yesterday. I'm often amazed at how much we all have in common and at just how small a world it really is.

 

[macgee]

Had a great time with you visiting my shop yesterday. I'm often amazed at how much we all have in common and at just how small a world it really is.

Same here,

You have an amazing shop, Monarch 10ee, Mill, the tooling, several variable speed Agazzani Bandsaws, 24" Disc grinders, sweet Tig weld station are just some of the nice mentionables. All put together, clean and laid out sensibly, very impressive.

Looking forward to seeing your new huge tool room lathe when it arrives.

Cheers

 

[ez-duzit]

Same here,

You have an amazing shop, Monarch 10ee, Mill, the tooling, several variable speed Agazzani Bandsaws, 24" Disc grinders, sweet Tig weld station are just some of the nice mentionables. All put together, clean and laid out sensibly, very impressive.

Looking forward to seeing your new huge tool room lathe when it arrives.

Cheers

Thanks m.

Gotta let everybody here know that you don't look much like your avatar.

 

[macgee]

Thanks m.

Gotta let everybody here know that you don't look much like your avatar.

Well that's a relief someone doesn't think I look like Dr. Strangelove.

In regards to vintage lathes, Check out the cool Monarch 10EE operators manual. It's not your average lathe.

https://www.normanmachinetool.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Monarch-10EE-Manual.pdf

 

[ez-duzit]

m--thanks for posting that manual. Although I was fortunate to have the seller provide the manual with the machine, it is quite possibly incomplete, and this will let me check it out and fill in any missing info.

 

[Fretters]

Gotta let everybody here know that you don't look much like your avatar.

Whereas mine is an uncanny resemblance.

 

[ez-duzit]

Whereas mine is an uncanny resemblance.

Very handsome fellow.

 

[ez-duzit]

Latest addition just arrived at my shop today, intended to augment the capability of my Monarch 10EE. An Okuma LS gear-head lathe built in 1960. It is ~18" swing by ~ 48" between centers. The machine measures over 9' long overall. Had been owned by a fellow that built racing engines, and had been sitting awhile. Found it 39 miles away from me. Had a professional rigger I had used before deliver it, as it is estimated to weigh ~5,000 lbs.

 

[slodat]

Re: Show off your vintage or not so vintage lathe.

Ez- that’s a hell of a lathe! Do you have a shop thread? I’d love to see how you have everything laid out and setup.

 

[ez-duzit]

s--thank you. Sorry, I don't have a shop thread. And I have just had to do an excruciating reorganization of it in order to squeeze in this monster. But I'll post some photos once I have things moved back into their final resting places.

Basically the Monarch and Okuma are destined to occupy opposite walls at the machining end of the shop (the end away from the garage door), with the mill between them. The entire shop is like 2 double garages in tandem (way not enough space), with a separate storeroom almost the size of a single garage.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Latest addition just arrived at my shop today, intended to augment the capability of my Monarch 10EE. An Okuma LS gear-head lathe built in 1960. It is ~18" swing by ~ 48" between centers. The machine measures over 9' long overall. Had been owned by a fellow that built racing engines, and had been sitting awhile. Found it 39 miles away from me. Had a professional rigger I had used before deliver it, as it is estimated to weigh ~5,000 lbs.

Wow, good man! You've been gathering up nice lathes in a hurry.

 

[ez-duzit]

Wow, good man! You've been gathering up nice lathes in a hurry.

Was in no hurry to buy. But when a good deal presents itself you must be ready to act upon it immediately. This one seemed to fit my needs so closely and the seller needed it out by the end of next week.

As soon as I got it into my shop I could not resist the urge to begin cleaning it up, somewhere, just to discover what I had really bought. I was amazed to find that there seems to be a real gem beneath a heavy coating of oily dirt that actually served to preserve it. It's cleaning up easily with just Simple Green and kerosene.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Was in no hurry to buy. But when a good deal presents itself you must be ready to act upon it immediately. This one seemed to fit my needs so closely and the seller needed it out by the end of next week.

My thoughts exactly. I actually rolled a Daewoo 20x60 into my shop today under similar circumstances. It's not clean like yours, it's gonna take a ton of work!

 

[ez-duzit]

It's pretty dirty, but just a quick wipe with Simple Green cleaned this spot in a minute. Nice paint underneath. This cover has the only cosmetic damage I've found so far.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

I pressure washed mine ~3-4 times with aggressive degreaser.

And it's still dirty lol.

 

[ez-duzit]

This one seems dirty, not from use, but from sitting idle in a dirty environment. In fact it really doesn't show much use for a 60-year old machine.

 

[ez-duzit]

This first photo better shows the generally dirty overall condition in which I found it. Look at the area around the speed control, compared to the close-up after a cursory cleaning.

 

[Steve from Socal]

ez,

Nice score,

When you mentioned engine builder I thought it could have been one I ran. Too small when I worked for Ed Pink we had a 21" Okuma LS to this day one of the nicest machines I ever ran.

Quite the collection with the 10EE and LS, what's next?

Steve

 

[ez-duzit]

ez,

Nice score,

When you mentioned engine builder I thought it could have been one I ran. Too small when I worked for Ed Pink we had a 20" Okuma LS to this day one of the nicest machines I ever ran.

Quite the collection with the 10EE and LS, what's next?

Steve

Thanks. I think these two complement each other well.

Next is get these hooked up, cleaned up, tooled up and producing. No more room for any next machine. Once I have the Monarch up to speed I will sell the Logan and recapture precious space which was taken away from the woodworking end of the shop.

 

[macgee]

Very nice Andy,

When you get her all cleaned up and running, you'll be a happy man. Did you get much tooling with it?

Okuma's are sweet machines and yours looks in very goos shape. She should serve you very well!

Congratlulations

 

[ez-duzit]

Very nice Andy,

When you get her all cleaned up and running, you'll be a happy man. Did you get much tooling with it?

Okuma's are sweet machines and yours looks in very goos shape. She should serve you very well!

Congratlulations

Thanks. I am already a happy man and feel blessed that I can still produce at 77-years old. (Wait util you see what this feels like)

Didn't get much with it, live center, drill chuck, some insert tooling, bunch of inserts. But it came with a 3-jaw, 4-jaw, steady rest and a wonderful built-in taper attachment that has its own massive track on the backside of the lathe. Very well designed and crafted.

 

[mikegt4]

Nice lathe. You can tell that it's is a bit on the heavy side, check out the rear tires on the delivery vehicle, right up against the truck's bed.

 

[ez-duzit]

Re: Show off your vintage or not so vintage lathe.

Ez-...I’d love to see how you have everything laid out and setup.

Just moved the "new" Okuma into position this evening.

 

[zippy97]

Re: Show off your vintage or not so vintage lathe.

Just moved the "new" Okuma into position this evening.

Awesome lathe ez-duzit. What kind of projects will you be up to with it?

 

[Plastikosmd]

The 9” southbend



The 10” rivett


The 48” monarch

 

[ez-duzit]

Re: Show off your vintage or not so vintage lathe.

Awesome lathe ez-duzit. What kind of projects will you be up to with it?

Thanks.

My work is customizing and refitting yachts. The 10EE will capably handle most of the day to day lathe work I have been doing: stainless, aluminum, acetal, etc. But it is limited by its 12.5" swing x 20" centers. The Okuma greatly expands that range with its 18" swing x over 4' centers, will rough out much faster with heavier cuts, and will handle much larger drills.

P--awesome 48" lathe. Nice setup.

 

[macgee]

Plastikosmd,

You have a very nice set of beautiful lathes. That Monarch 24" swing? is massive and can see why you would need the gib crane.

I'm a big fan of Rivett

 

[Steve from Socal]

Plastikosmd,

Is your Monarch DC powered, seeing that panel on the headstock looks like it may be?

Steve

 

[ez-duzit]

Just found out today that my Okuma was built in December of 1968. The serial number tells us the manufacturing date.

And on Saturday macgee came by for awhile and was kind enough to help me discover that the motor is rated at 10 hp. He reached in with the cell phone camera and, in spite of the tight quarters, managed to get some clear photos of the motor nameplate. That was after he wiped the grime off it.

Thanks macgee.

 

[jabberwoki]

That`s some sweet lathes there matie. How does your Rivett activate the coolant motor?