Fretters
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Fretters: well you did say you grew up on the other side of the tracks.
As long as nobody's thinking I bat for the other team, I'm good. 
VISE REPAIR 101 all vise repairs, lubricants, sources for parts and the tricks to fix
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As long as nobody's thinking I bat for the other team, I'm good. Outlawmws
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So was that busted Wilton titled "Vise" or "C" Clamp? 
Fretters
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Made a new handle for the swivel jaw. Rod came from a companion stand, & the knobs were turned from some en1a rod.
Before anyone thinks I've lost the plot, it being brass, it'll make sure it never gets overly cranked on, & is plenty strong enough for my/normal usage.
Edit: It does help if I attach the photo.
Before anyone thinks I've lost the plot, it being brass,
it'll make sure it never gets overly cranked on, & is plenty strong enough for my/normal usage.Edit: It does help if I attach the photo.
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Fretters: that BRASS HANDLE is PURDY!!! nice work.
yep maybe put that elephant on the door when the ex stops by to pick up her check or your son.
nice call on the soft handle for a vise cause not everybody knows that the type of steel and the length were probably engineered so the handle would bend before the jaws or vise would bust/break.
have a great weekend everybody!!
yep maybe put that elephant on the door when the ex stops by to pick up her check or your son.
nice call on the soft handle for a vise cause not everybody knows that the type of steel and the length were probably engineered so the handle would bend before the jaws or vise would bust/break.
have a great weekend everybody!!
Fretters
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Aye, much better to straighten or replace a handle, than have to attempt repair on the vice.
I've fitted a couple of o-rings under each knob now too.
You too.
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FRETTERS: its been a while since we talked about rubber or plastic stoppers on vise handles. which kind did you use?
ALL: anybody have a great product to use for vise handles to keep us all from getting that occasional bite/pinch do tell?
also in case some of you might want to spiff up your vises and old tools that are a bit rusty this RUST REMOVAL thread has a lot of great information lately and here's the link:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473607
anybody repairing or restoring a vise to use please post up some before and after pics with a few thoughts cause all of these are a bit different and we all have our unique methods.
ALL: anybody have a great product to use for vise handles to keep us all from getting that occasional bite/pinch do tell?
also in case some of you might want to spiff up your vises and old tools that are a bit rusty this RUST REMOVAL thread has a lot of great information lately and here's the link:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473607
anybody repairing or restoring a vise to use please post up some before and after pics with a few thoughts cause all of these are a bit different and we all have our unique methods.
MattGavriloff
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Interested in what others use for stoppers as well. I've used regular black rubber o-rings on smaller ones, but they wouldn't quite do it on some of the larger vises.
Been super busy at work lately, so I haven't had much vise time. Cleaning up a couple drill press vises (nothing exciting...lol) just cause I didn't have one to use. And ok, the second may not actually be a drill press vise, but that's where I'll be using it...lol
Spring is almost here though, so looking forward to finishing up some of this winter's projects!
Been super busy at work lately, so I haven't had much vise time. Cleaning up a couple drill press vises (nothing exciting...lol) just cause I didn't have one to use. And ok, the second may not actually be a drill press vise, but that's where I'll be using it...lol
Spring is almost here though, so looking forward to finishing up some of this winter's projects!
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For finger savers I use this rubber:
https://www.mcmaster.com/86335K17/
To punch holes I use this Mayhew set, I have SAE and Metric. Sometimes the SAE inside hole is a bit too big. This set allows both hole punch's to mounted at the same time, perfect donut!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QV5DZ8/ref=emc_b_5_i
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I just ordered these on eBay for the C2 I'm redoing. They are a little bit thicker than the originals but fit nicely. I'll post a better picture when I get home.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Neoprene-R...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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I just used a couple of O rings, either side. I had some which are pretty much the same OD as the knobs, once fitted.
It's not so much to protect my hands, but rather to stop that clank when you drop the handle.
It's not so much to protect my hands, but rather to stop that clank when you drop the handle.
MattGavriloff
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It's not so much to protect my hands, but rather to stop that clank when you drop the handle.
This!...I hate that clank!
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On my wood handled Woodworking vise, I use rubber bands. Not classy at all, and I take them off for pix. But they stop the ends from unscrewing, which is a huge plus.
I need to put something on my Reed, and my Dake press, both have bit me in the last few months, so looking forward to classier ideas than rubber bands coming up from this question.
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It keeps the handle where ever you position it and won't drop.
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drivesitfar
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NC: are those NEOPRENES hard to get on?
RTM & GET: nice idea especially if you have a few stored on the shelf or bench at the ready in front of items that you need access to below them.
ALL: I seem to recall somebody using O RINGS from truck axles or wheels for bigger vises?
I just sold a bin with a ton of old O rings in it cause I didn't think I'd have a use for them thinking they had expired so to speak. i do have a ton of plumbing stuff so maybe I have something that might work laying around here.
I too don't like the CLANK, but I still enjoy turning my REED 4c's handle even for small jobs.
SPEAKING OF 4C'S someone was asking for a split nut and here's a link to a thread where a member made one: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232946&highlight=reed+split+nut
anybody else make a split nut or know where to find a replacement cause a member was missing one?
RTM & GET: nice idea especially if you have a few stored on the shelf or bench at the ready in front of items that you need access to below them.
ALL: I seem to recall somebody using O RINGS from truck axles or wheels for bigger vises?
I just sold a bin with a ton of old O rings in it cause I didn't think I'd have a use for them thinking they had expired so to speak. i do have a ton of plumbing stuff so maybe I have something that might work laying around here.
I too don't like the CLANK, but I still enjoy turning my REED 4c's handle even for small jobs.
SPEAKING OF 4C'S someone was asking for a split nut and here's a link to a thread where a member made one: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232946&highlight=reed+split+nut
anybody else make a split nut or know where to find a replacement cause a member was missing one?
ncgun99
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Drives, they are pretty tight but a little 3n1 oil on the inside of the spacer and the handle with a little pressure they went on.
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Just did a repair and restore video on a Wilton 1740 vise if anyone is interested. I repaired some cast material by Tig brazing and made some copper jaws for it. Turned out pretty nice. Not a trailer queen so if your looking for shelf decoration then you'll be disappointed. This will be a working vise.
I make my own handle bumpers. Use sheets of EPDM rubber, and a hole punch kit. Bumpers come out very nice.
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Hmm, I have a sheet of red gasket material, and a similar hole punch. How much larger than the shaft OD did you cut the hole?
I make my max bumper diameter equal to ball diameter, and min diameter to same size or slightly smaller than handle. I prefer a snug fit so bumper stays put against the ball. Might be hard stretching them over the ball, so helps to toss them in boiling hot water for a minute or two right before you put them on and/or spray a little silicone on the ball first.
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Ed: great tip with the rubber and cutters!! is the EPDM 1/4 or 3/8 inch thick? also great idea to put in hot water for a bit so it can stretch over the ball and then tighten back up when cooled off.
For bumpers I use "High-Strength Weather-Resistant EPDM Rubber Sheet, 1/4" Thick, 60A Durometer". I buy from McMaster-Carr, and its not cheap, but its the right material for these IMO.
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ED: I have some 3/8 inch 2x2 foot gym mats that I might end up using one to see how it works and I might also have a few of those cutters around here someplace or i'll buy them cause having these on your vise is definitely an improvement worth having.
thanks
thanks
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Gives new meaning to "tool ****"...
PierceA
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Related to the question posed to Fretters: Will the knob stay polished?
There is a story, I think it was true. At a university someplace, a full size bronze statue of a **** man on a horse was displayed in front of a meeting hall.
The rider was anatomically correct AND erect.
In order to pacify some prudish University Board of Directors, the erection was made to be removable, It was threaded and removed for any occasion where the anatomically correct and erected rider would be a bit too controversial..
BUT the problem arose: [pun intended]. The bronze statue took on that wonderful golden-brown patina that makes a bronze statue so beautiful. It takes time, and exposure to weather and the air.
BUT the removable erection was removed often enough that it remained 'polished' and the original reddish-gold Bronze color.. Giving the impression that the rider was 'getting plenty' inspite of being an inanimate statue.
The question arose [again, pun intended] did the erection get polished by adventurous late night liaisons with the erection in place? OR did the erection get used and polished when it was removed for potential controversial meetings?
Or was the grounds keeper keeping it shined up?
PierceA
There is a story, I think it was true. At a university someplace, a full size bronze statue of a **** man on a horse was displayed in front of a meeting hall.
The rider was anatomically correct AND erect.
In order to pacify some prudish University Board of Directors, the erection was made to be removable, It was threaded and removed for any occasion where the anatomically correct and erected rider would be a bit too controversial..
BUT the problem arose: [pun intended]. The bronze statue took on that wonderful golden-brown patina that makes a bronze statue so beautiful. It takes time, and exposure to weather and the air.
BUT the removable erection was removed often enough that it remained 'polished' and the original reddish-gold Bronze color.. Giving the impression that the rider was 'getting plenty' inspite of being an inanimate statue.
The question arose [again, pun intended] did the erection get polished by adventurous late night liaisons with the erection in place? OR did the erection get used and polished when it was removed for potential controversial meetings?
Or was the grounds keeper keeping it shined up?
PierceA
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MattGavriloff
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My goodness what's going on in here today...lol. As much as I love a good knob polishing story...I just wanted to share my latest vise. This one was a freebie to me, my dad grabbed it for $5 at a rummage sale in case I wanted it...lol. Though made in Taiwan it seems solid enough, and it's in good shape overall. Best I can learn is it's probably a "Wilton owned, Taiwanese made, Columbian No 178 pattern"...lol. And Brink & Cotton seems to have little info out there. Was that like a chain store or something? I'm guessing 70's or 80's vintage? Newer? Anyone have any info to add there?
Someone obviously needed to use it with limited space since it's been setup to have the rear jaw as the "dynamic." Works just fine though the front could be tightened up.
Not sure if I'll keep it, I don't have any woodworking vises, though I've done more of that than metal work in the past. Or maybe I'll just sell it to fund another vise I don't really need...lol
Someone obviously needed to use it with limited space since it's been setup to have the rear jaw as the "dynamic." Works just fine though the front could be tightened up.
Not sure if I'll keep it, I don't have any woodworking vises, though I've done more of that than metal work in the past. Or maybe I'll just sell it to fund another vise I don't really need...lol
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FRETTERS: well when I mentioned the PROTAL FLYING LADY I never knew you would take us down this road/path.
PIERCE: I'm sure it's a true story and we are waiting for the security footage videos.
Matt: I agree if you leave these guys (and maybe us) alone for more than a few minutes anything can happen. you should have seen some of the posts for years when the size of the jaws went from 6 to 8 inch.
interesting set up with that little woodworking vise. Maybe a clamp to hold items a bit higher and on top of the prior owner's workbench or outside? there was more than a little thought and engineering put into that set up.
PIERCE: I'm sure it's a true story and we are waiting for the security footage videos.
Matt: I agree if you leave these guys (and maybe us) alone for more than a few minutes anything can happen. you should have seen some of the posts for years when the size of the jaws went from 6 to 8 inch.
interesting set up with that little woodworking vise. Maybe a clamp to hold items a bit higher and on top of the prior owner's workbench or outside? there was more than a little thought and engineering put into that set up.
Outlawmws
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Maybe now we know what the Proto Flying lady was flying away from!
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I was lucky enough to get the chance to rescue this Wilton 800s from the junk yard it was headed to. The owner said it was broken beyond repair and missing parts. He was so convinced it was worthless he wouldn’t let me pay him ANYTHING after I repeatedly insisted. Everything was seized up, casting in the back where the pins were had been blown out from people trying to disassemble it and not knowing what they were doing but other than the dust cap, there were no missing pieces. After chaining a bottle jack to the base I was finally able to free the dynamic jaw and then it was just welding and elbow grease. Couldn’t be happier with the final product. The only thing it cost me was $120 for a new set of jaws off eBay!
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Nice work. Looks good.