coppermouse
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Can anyone tell me about these? I had a farmer buddy that had one. I would like to get one. What is involved? I live in Rural Ohio if it matters
above ground storage tank for gasoline
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Call your local oil company, sign a fuel contract and have them bring one out and set it.
Or, you can buy one outright from Craigslist or elsewhere and have them fill it as-needed.
Keep in mind that fuel off the truck is usually more expensive than at your gas station. You're paying for the delivery service.
Or, you can buy one outright from Craigslist or elsewhere and have them fill it as-needed.
Keep in mind that fuel off the truck is usually more expensive than at your gas station. You're paying for the delivery service.
bradleys
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We had a tank when I was a kid. There are a couple things I remember.
Check with your gasoline supplier to see what requirements they have. We installed our tank, and they wouldn't fill it until we installed a hose and nozzle that met their requirements. It's been a long time, but I think the problem was related to grounding. It was an old oil tank that we adapted, and a tank supplied by the gasoline company should be OK.
You might also check the price the supplier charges. We quit using our tank because the delivered price was consistently above the price at the local discount gas station.
Check with your gasoline supplier to see what requirements they have. We installed our tank, and they wouldn't fill it until we installed a hose and nozzle that met their requirements. It's been a long time, but I think the problem was related to grounding. It was an old oil tank that we adapted, and a tank supplied by the gasoline company should be OK.
You might also check the price the supplier charges. We quit using our tank because the delivered price was consistently above the price at the local discount gas station.
How big? Over 1300 involves an SPCC plan. Lots of liability for little gain. Around me the price break would be minimal unless you're a big user and even then if they deliver in a small truck you pay a premium
nolatoolguy
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Well people will tell you there a bad idea and dangerous. Personally I havent had any problems with ours. We have those silver ones witch are 575 of diesel each. Then we have 55 gallon drums. We then have a 300 gallon refueling trailer, and 200 gallon refuling tank on the truck. We go through roughly 700 gallons a day. We also have some extra transfer tanks in all the trucks for harvest season wen we run all night. You could probably scale your setup down.
Before I can give you any more advice what will this be used for? how much would you like to store.
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Well people will tell you there a bad idea and dangerous. Personally I havent had any problems with ours. We have those silver ones witch are 575 of diesel each. Then we have 55 gallon drums. We then have a 300 gallon refueling trailer, and 200 gallon refuling tank on the truck. We go through roughly 700 gallons a day. We also have some extra transfer tanks in all the trucks for harvest season wen we run all night. You could probably scale your setup down.
Before I can give you any more advice what will this be used for? how much would you like to store.
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Those are a little bigger than 275(if you're talking about the tanks on the wooden crib). I guess closer to 1000 gallons on the one on the left, maybe bigger on the right looks larger in diameter.
nolatoolguy
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LOL, ime sorry, correcting 575. They put the 2 an the 5 way to close togther on the keybord.
ok maybe ime just really bad at typing. Anyway, The one on the very end is the same 575. They are older tanks, they have been painted and patched a few times. The one tank is a different shape then the other. The big one is not as long as the smaller ones are. But thank you for correcting me.
Huh? Most of the time it will be cheaper because you won't have to pay the road tax on the gas. State tax laws vary on this, however.
Do a search on "dyed fuel" for more info on this topic. Dyed diesel CANNOT be used on the road, strictly for off-road (farm) use. As far as I know, there's no such thing as died gasoline. Years ago, there was an "understanding" between the customer and the fuel supplier that what they were delivering to you would not be used on the road, so the supplier wouldn't charge the tax. I think things have gotten a bit more strict lately, even to the point of you having to pay the tax up front and then apply for a rebate.
A quick call to a local fuel supplier will clear this up quickly. Tell them how many gallons you want to have on hand, etc. They might even be able to put you on a route plan where they will stop once per month to top off your tank.
Oh, and plan to place your tank away from buildings. A shady spot back in the grove of trees is a good place. I've responded to enough barn/shed/chicken coop fires that have you scrambling to move the fuel tank next to the burning building.
JCQuick
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I work for a petroleum equipment co. It depends on the area you are in. here in Fla you don't have to register the tank unless it is 1000 gallons or more. I sell a huge amount of 300 & 500 gal Double wall tanks to site developement companys.
you will pay more for the fuel being delivered to you and you do still have to pay the road tax only product that you dod not have to pay tax on is OFFROAD DYED diesel fuel
If your pumping gasoline the hose needs to have a granding wire in it so that static electricity does not happen. Also it is recomended that gasoline be vented 12feet in the air
you will pay more for the fuel being delivered to you and you do still have to pay the road tax only product that you dod not have to pay tax on is OFFROAD DYED diesel fuel
If your pumping gasoline the hose needs to have a granding wire in it so that static electricity does not happen. Also it is recomended that gasoline be vented 12feet in the air
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JCQuick
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hey walrus those tanks gavaty feed. what happens if your hose springs a leak.
The Florida DEP would have a cow if they saw your setup
The Florida DEP would have a cow if they saw your setup
mtwaterguy
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You should be scolding nolatoolguy, not walrus.
JCQuick
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nolatoolguy
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We have been using that set up since I can rember. We have had no problems. We replace the hoses and nozzels when they start to wear. They have been around this long, I dont think Ime gonna start to worry now.
Art From De Leon
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These small tanks are far too small to be used on a farm of any size, simply because they won't hold the amount of fuel used for one fill on a large tractor. And since gasoline is hardly used anymore on a farm, most home-owners probably use as much gas for their lawn equipment, boat, jetski, as what is used on a farm.
The worst thing about them is that they attract theives, you can put a valve that can be locked on the front of the tank and screw the hose into it, remembering to close and lock the valve after each use, so they cannot cut the hose, and drain the tank. Also make sure that the fill cap/vent can be locked.
Ideally, the tank should be set so that the rear of the tank is lower, and equipped with a drain plug, so that water can be drained off. NolaToolGuy has the right idea about them being painted white or aluminum, to reflect the heat, or a roof would accomplish the same. If they are not kept full, you will get a lot of condensation from the heating/cooling cycles.
You can get these from Tractor Supply. Given what they say about the short 'shelf life' of today's gasolines, I don't know if would be worth it.
Since you are from "rural Ohio", check the farm sales, there should be scads of them.
The worst thing about them is that they attract theives, you can put a valve that can be locked on the front of the tank and screw the hose into it, remembering to close and lock the valve after each use, so they cannot cut the hose, and drain the tank. Also make sure that the fill cap/vent can be locked.
Ideally, the tank should be set so that the rear of the tank is lower, and equipped with a drain plug, so that water can be drained off. NolaToolGuy has the right idea about them being painted white or aluminum, to reflect the heat, or a roof would accomplish the same. If they are not kept full, you will get a lot of condensation from the heating/cooling cycles.
You can get these from Tractor Supply. Given what they say about the short 'shelf life' of today's gasolines, I don't know if would be worth it.
Since you are from "rural Ohio", check the farm sales, there should be scads of them.
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sberry
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oops just saw that sorry walrus
Yeah
I just refused to work on a bulk plant that was setup the same way. 2 10,000 gallon tanks with only a ball valve and spring loaded valve stopping the tank from dumping it contents on the ground. Sorry, no want the liability of that setup especially when there was no dike
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denis4x4
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I have a 300 gallon above ground gas tank with a water separator filter at the off/on ball valve. With a couple of riding mowers, two Honda irrigation pumps and other gas powered implements, it's really a convenience. I pay a nickel a gallon less than the posted price at the local co-op. I also figure another reduction of two or three cents a gallon when I cash my dividend check. My wife thinks it's great that she never has to go to a service station!
stltikn
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We don't have one yet. We've been thinking about using an older model fuel delivery truck. California has some really strict rules on spill retention and leaks. Anybody have any thoughts or experience on this?