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Tips for Removing a Stripped Flush Allen bolt

Jsf721

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Cannot get vice grips on it bc its flush mounted.

Tried Hammering in a larger allen -Fail

any ideas that are not using a dremel to cut a slot or epoxying in a sacrificial allen key?
 
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left handed drill bit and penetrating oil

have you tried to “shock” the bolt with a drift and a hammer? Use penetrating oil with this also
This is what I would try.

Can you heat the surrounding area? After warming things up, squirt some Sea Foam on the allen screw and then try the left hand drill bit immediately there after. Work up in sizes from the first drill bit that will catch in the hole.

Maybe drill just a little with a bit that just fits in the hole without catching to create a center punch type mark.

Inserting a punch with a small enough tip to not get stuck in the allen and giving it a couple raps will not hurt anything either.
 

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I've had luck with getting a flat head screw driver; just the right size, and jamming it across the long part of the hexagon. Even in a stripped allen bolt, the flathead can't spin unless the thing is perfectly stripped out to a cylinder.
 

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I've hammered in Pipe ****** extractors before with great success. Like these:
https://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-pipe-******-extractor-set-93822.html
 

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Cannot get vice grips on it bc its flush mounted.

Tried Hammering in a larger allen -Fail

any ideas that are not using a dremel to cut a slot or epoxying in a sacrificial allen key?

Is there only one ? What is it holding ? Picture ? What size is it ? Lots of different ways to deal with it but a lot depends on what you are working on.
 
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You're lucky it was an allen bolt because the bolt's socket will self center the drill so you can accurately drill/retap.
 

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With countersunk heads like that l have had luck carefully drilling down just far enough with a drill bit the same diameter of the threads, to cut down to the threads and use a punch "rock back and forth" to snap the head off. Then use penetrating oil and an easy out to get the rest of it. Sometimes if you are using the right size drill bit, the head will snap off as you are drilling. Go slow.
 
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Thanks everone

drilled the heads off. Pulled part with studs. Soaked in penetrating oil drilled and used new extractor I got a HD.

thanks for seeing me through
 

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Gesus everyone's first go to for getting a stripped or broken bolt out is "drill it out"...well you never end up drilling exactly in the center and your removing what little is left to get a grip on.

WELD A NUT on it. It's still got a full head just nothing to grip...well add something you can grip.
 
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I see you replaced with stainless, good move. Some anti-seize would help too.
This unit vibrates as it is operated. I have to use thread locker. the spec called for red but I used blue bc if I ever have to service it again i don't want to go through this process. I always use the best hardware I can get on my gear. The little extra expense is worth it on time and aggravation saved. Unfortunately the manufacturers don't think this way.
 

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the trick for removing those screws once the thread locker has set is to put a big soldering iron on the head and let it soak up enough heat to soften the thread locker, then remove the hardware with a unworn quality bit by hand
 
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Jsf721

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Gesus everyone's first go to for getting a stripped or broken bolt out is "drill it out"...well you never end up drilling exactly in the center and your removing what little is left to get a grip on.

WELD A NUT on it. It's still got a full head just nothing to grip...well add something you can grip.
I want to learn to weld but sadly I am welder-less and don't have anyone to teach me even iof I had one. I would buy if I have a path to be taught so I could learn that skill.

Just now practicing sweating pipes LOL
 
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the trick for removing those screws once the thread locker has set is to put a big soldering iron on the head and let it soak up enough heat to soften the thread locker, then remove the hardware with a unworn quality bit by hand
Great Idea- I love this place-I usually hit it with the torch but the Iron is a better idea.
 

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This unit vibrates as it is operated. I have to use thread locker. the spec called for red but I used blue bc if I ever have to service it again i don't want to go through this process. I always use the best hardware I can get on my gear. The little extra expense is worth it on time and aggravation saved. Unfortunately the manufacturers don't think this way.
Makes perfect sense, looks like a floor sander as Eric said...
 

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Plenty of good solutions described. For an inaccessible sides-of-(allen) bolt, in the last-case I faced (47 y.o. Honda SOHC 750-4), I elected to drill it. I went-up multiple sizes as it drilled-out, and finally I was able to back it-out. I believe heat and penetrating oil are the prep steps if an initial mechanical disassembly is thwarted.

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