The VINTAGE toolboxes of Garage Journal!

[alinc100]

For anyone that might need these. 18 dollars on ebay, I already scooped up the drawer handles.

Lot of 6 Vintage Remline Toolbox Drawer Slides from Small Bottom Box

Thank you for this. I took a leap of faith,so to say and these slides were able to fit the Beach B97. I had bought it with the missing drawer included/but removed with a bent slide. It had to go back in a different configuration as the retaining tab was missing on the right hand side of the case. Hence the small drawer below the wider drawer. I was able to tinker with it slightly ,straighten the handles a bit,etc. I did have to put the RemLine sliders in in pairs as the stops are slightly different ,I'm just thrilled it physically fit the box. I suppose if I was really crafty I could rivet a small spring steel tab in the correct place on the cabinet and put the drawers in the right order.

 

[Gunfighter556]

Thank you for this. I took a leap of faith,so to say and these slides were able to fit the Beach B97. I had bought it with the missing drawer included/but removed with a bent slide. It had to go back in a different configuration as the retaining tab was missing on the right hand side of the case. Hence the small drawer below the wider drawer. I was able to tinker with it slightly ,straighten the handles a bit,etc. I did have to put the RemLine sliders in in pairs as the stops are slightly different ,I'm just thrilled it physically fit the box. I suppose if I was really crafty I could rivet a small spring steel tab in the correct place on the cabinet and put the drawers in the right order.

Glad it worked out for you. Hopefully I don't end up kicking myself for not jumping on them myself if I end up with a project needing sliders....lol

 

[Smokeshow69]

Where are all the Huot Hounds?

As some of you may recall I ran into this complete stack (roller, middle and top box) at the same flea market a few years ago. Guy has still not sold it. Now asking $300. This time around I got his name and number. PM me if you're interested. NO AFFILIATION! Just passing it along. Lots of surface rust on the roller, some spots on the other pieces, and yet several Huot and defunct Staten Island car dealership stickers are largely intact. If someone wanted to carefully restore this and retain those for a cool vintage look, it could be done.

Man that thing is cool! And the dealer sticker really puts it over the top. I could really clean that up and make it look nice while retaining the paint and sticker !

The patina on that huot is awesome.

Agreed!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I wish I had the right space for it. It needs to be in an east coast party garage or speed shop. Black and white checkered floor. Well lit. Big gas and oil signs. I'm all 20s and wartime - and in my basement. Ironically, the user box in my garage is a Huot, though. It's just not that kind of garage. Haha.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I wish I had the right space for it. It needs to be in an east coast party garage or speed shop. Black and white checkered floor. Well lit. Big gas and oil signs. I'm all 20s and wartime - and in my basement. Ironically, the user box in my garage is a Huot, though. It's just not that kind of garage. Haha.

I couldnt agree with you more. I was thinking the exact same thing!

 

[Orangina]

HAZET started in 1954 with its "Assistent" series.

In 1955 there was also a special tool cart with sliding doors and HAZET colors only for Volkswagen workshops - not sold to the public.
This was previously build as "Favorit" by a company HELKA in light blue and yellow.
It also shown in the book "HAZET Chronicles".

 

[Outlawmws]

That is a very interesting adn cool little cart. is it yours? supplied ot the VW factory? or dealers repair shops?

 

[Orangina]

That's mine - now for some of my vintage HAZET tools as it used 66 years before
(it takes two month of work, removing old false paint, cleaning, rust removal, flatten, priming, filling, repainting, rebuild latches, rubber mats, decals...)

It was original used at VW repair shops in Germany...
I found only around 10 of them in the Internet (e.g. VW forum theSamba, YouTube)
located from Belgium to Hannover in Germany - and now this one in Berlin.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Very nice sets!

 

[Shelbylex]

Orangina, VUNDABAR! (if I spell it correctly). Great job restoring!

Can you post few pictures of the cart along different side views of Karmann Ghia? I love the combination!

 

[y'sguy]

Orangina, That is a beautiful find and excellent work restoring it to it's glory!. Perfect with your vw's.

 

[Smokeshow69]

HAZET started in 1954 with its "Assistent" series.

In 1955 there was also a special tool cart with sliding doors and HAZET colors only for Volkswagen workshops - not sold to the public.
This was previously build as "Favorit" by a company HELKA in light blue and yellow.
It also shown in the book "HAZET Chronicles".

I don't know much about Hazet in general but I do know enough to know this is a very rare box! Even here in the states the hazet assistants are uncommon and this even more so. Great work on the restoration!

 

[Provincial]

Does this one qualify for this thread?

 

[JoCoSawdust]

It was original used at VW repair shops in Germany...

Fantastic work on an incredibly unique box. I'm jealous!

 

[Outlawmws]

I'd say so Prov,

Now that I've said that, is there a surprise waiting inside?

 

[Provincial]

A very rusty pebble Plomb 5449 ratchet, an unmarked wire pulling grip, a very long tree-shaped carbide burr, a set (3/8 to 3/4) of Husky combos, probably modern, but made in USA, and a cool old tire pressure gauge, all shown in the Garage Sale thread last weekend. Just junk, otherwise.

 

[Provincial]

I found this old toolbox at a Swap Meet last month. I was thinking it was SK, but am now thinking it isn't. If it was SK, it would be wrinkle-finish green, but the original paint on the sides of the drawers is gray.


I looked up the P&C boxes in the 1939 catalog, and the 9323 Heavy Duty Tool Box seems identical to the SK 6610.


I'm beginning to think that the Brazil Stamping division of Sherman Klove made this box for P&C.

I am attaching a .pdf of selections from both the P&C and SK catalogs that show the two tool boxes.

What do you guys think?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I recently started wondering if lyon made them, as I have seen those pulls on them.

 

[oldpliers1]

Here is my Australian made cantilever toolbox purchased for the princely sum of $20 in early 1979 , as a 15 year old I was very proud and interested in filling it

 

[d42jeep]

I found this old toolbox at a Swap Meet last month. I was thinking it was SK, but am now thinking it isn't. If it was SK, it would be wrinkle-finish green, but the original paint on the sides of the drawers is gray.


I looked up the P&C boxes in the 1939 catalog, and the 9323 Heavy Duty Tool Box seems identical to the SK 6610.


I'm beginning to think that the Brazil Stamping division of Sherman Klove made this box for P&C.

I am attaching a .pdf of selections from both the P&C and SK catalogs that show the two tool boxes.

What do you guys think?

If the interior layout looks like this, my guess would be early S-K. My drawer pulls are different then yours.
-Don

 

[Provincial]

Don, the P&C catalog illustration shows a layout identical to the SK 6610, and the outside dimensions are identical. The handles are identical. The tray handle is identical.

If you follow the link I put at the bottom of my post (#13,658), you get a .pdf of the two catalog listings so you can compare.

 

[d42jeep]

i was unsuccessful in getting my iPad to open that link. Can you post a picture of the P&C box?
Thanks.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I'm beginning to think that the Brazil Stamping division of Sherman Klove made this box for P&C...[ ]...What do you guys think?

I think you're right, Jock.

Not only are the boxes dead ringers, I think they used the same stock image for both catalogs! (The difference in graininess etc is from the difference in paper stock, accentuated by the scanning process.)

And your logic is solid. We know that SK, unlike most if not all other toolmakers, notably made their own boxes. It was a line of business (tackle, home movies, etc) for them. And while I don't think I've seen that explicitly assigned to Brazil before, that makes perfect sense. The entire operation was moved to and centralized with the expanded SK main plant in 1938, so I don't know if they thought of it as a separate division after that. But certainly the old Brazil machinery. Neat discovery and analysis.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I think you're right, Jock.

Not only are the boxes dead ringers, I think they used the same stock image for both catalogs! (The difference in graininess etc is from the difference in paper stock, accentuated by the scanning process.)

And your logic is solid. We know that SK, unlike most if not all other toolmakers, notably made their own boxes. It was a line of business (tackle, home movies, etc) for them. And while I don't think I've seen that explicitly assigned to Brazil before, that makes perfect sense. The entire operation was moved to and centralized with the expanded SK main plant in 1938, so I don't know if they thought of it as a separate division after that. But certainly the old Brazil machinery. Neat discovery and analysis.

I agree with Jock as well... I had started researching this same theory a few years ago based on the physical similarites of p&c lower tool rollers and sk tool rollers pre war. I proposed they where both made by the same manufacturer. Of course no one that I talked to had a p&c lower roller nor had seen one, aside from catalog images. I have seen this exact box that Jock picked up and mentioned that it could be p&c but forgot about the gray paint connection

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

I picked up what I believe is the same box a couple years ago too Jock. Only difference was instead of the S&K green wrinkle finish or gray color it has a blue wrinkle finish. Ed.

 

[bmwrd0]

That blue is almost a dead match for a P&C box I have...

I ain't saying nothin', I am just sayin'.

 

[Provincial]

Before this thread goes elsewhere, I'm posting photos of the P&C and SK toolbox illustrations. I tried to post these as a .pdf in post #13,658 but it appears that the new software doesn't play well with .pdf's.





My work-around was to print out the pdf and then photograph it with my cell phone.

 

[RTM]

Wow, both even managed to set the tool tray in the exact same position on 2 different chests by different chest mfgrs.
[/wiseass mode off]

Way to tie it together!

 

[Outlawmws]

I'd bet the Mfg of the box also provided the art for the catalog to the selling companies. Why not? If they wanted, their own draftsmen could add the emblems...

That sort of illustration was stock in trade for any draftsman of the era. While I missed most of that, I did in my earliest years do some dash assembly illustrations for a truck mfg. -I think it was Peterbuilt.

 

[d42jeep]

It seems like S-K typically persisted in using their earlier artwork while they were supplying updated product. In their 1943 wartime catalog they were still showing the box which was the same as the one shown in the P&C catalog in 1939 (except for paint color) but supplying an updated box with the later drawer pulls during WW2. Thanks again to Catfish Dan for the wartime box!
-Don

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

I had some time to pull out the SK made box I have and see if I could get a little better pic of the true color of blue it is. Most of the paint is heavily weathered but the bottom of the drawers still has what looks like a pretty good representation of what the color originally was. Not the kind of wrinkle finish found on my SK boxes of similar vintage....dare I call it an attractive crystalline finish? Ed.

 

[drivesitfar]

Orangina: that Hazet assistant is almost thread worthy especially if you have mire before and after pics and more pics of the tools you’ve gathered to go in it. WOW!!

start a thread and put a link to it in your dig line if you’ve got time. Nice find!!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

pretty good representation of what the color originally was.

Nearly, if not exactly, the same color and texture of pre-war Craftsman branded boxes. I sure wish I could figure out how to replicate that texture.

 

[HenryF]

Thank you for this. I took a leap of faith,so to say and these slides were able to fit the Beach B97. I had bought it with the missing drawer included/but removed with a bent slide. It had to go back in a different configuration as the retaining tab was missing on the right hand side of the case. Hence the small drawer below the wider drawer. I was able to tinker with it slightly ,straighten the handles a bit,etc. I did have to put the RemLine sliders in in pairs as the stops are slightly different ,I'm just thrilled it physically fit the box. I suppose if I was really crafty I could rivet a small spring steel tab in the correct place on the cabinet and put the drawers in the right order.

I liked this one. It looks like the one from "Home Alone".

 

[drivesitfar]

JoCo: Getridofone put a wrinkle finish on a couple of his vises by spraying on a wrinkle finish then the color. I’ll try to find a few pics on my laptop to show the can of wrinkle and his vises or pm him.

found some pics and it's been a while (maybe 5 or more years) so not sure if this product is still available or if there is a better one now. good luck and hope it works. BTW I'm hoping to duplicate this finish on something too cause I like it almost as much as a naked BLO look.

 

[bmwrd0]

Switching over to this Huot top box:

I had a 12 drawer Remline and a 10 drawer Craftsman for overstock, but as I gradually thin the herd I find that the 11 drawer works best for me, as it allows me to sort out my driver bits and have a good drawer for my Fluke. A nice mix of new and old.

It's amazing what room you can find in your box when you switch over! But, wow, that picture makes the drawers look all funky.

 

[alinc100]

I liked this one. It looks like the one from "Home Alone".

I don't remember a toolbox scene in HA,its been a very long time since I watched that movie, but I do know if you are careful when watching Schitt's Creek on Netflix you will spy a couple Beach toolboxes at Bob's Garage. Also one of the prescription drug commercials a couple years back had a very clean Beach in the background.

 

[jeffmoss26]

Home alone 2 had a toolbox scene!

 

[HenryF]

I don't remember a toolbox scene in HA,its been a very long time since I watched that movie, but I do know if you are careful when watching Schitt's Creek on Netflix you will spy a couple Beach toolboxes at Bob's Garage. Also one of the prescription drug commercials a couple years back had a very clean Beach in the background.

Haven't seen Schitt's Creek, but I believe I remember the commercial.

 

[old_smokey]

I saw a really nice looking Beach stack in the background of a Kijiji ad for tools. Some guy bought a house with a garage full of tools and was trying to sell off the stuff he didn't want to keep. That included the Beach box. I already have this box, but the tall lower cabinet is pretty uncommon around here and I really love mine. Plus my upper is in pretty rough shape, so I figured what the heck, why not. My Beach collection is getting a bit intense for my small shop, but I just can't seem to help myself haha!

This one is badged as Mastercraft, but having them side by side I can confirm they are 100% identical to the Beach-badged version. No rust anywhere on the box, even inside below the bottom drawers. It needs some new drawer liners, slide lube, and a little polish. I think I'll use this one for organizing hardware and small parts.