mybigwarwagon
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Obey the warden. Things tend to do better when you do. Plus they can't say, "I told you so!"
They didn't operate on his funny bone!Bob, just checking in and am glad to find that the surgery left intact your humor, wit and story telling.
Dan, As bad as your home hospice care may seem, I feel it is far better than putting her in a nursing home. My father-in-law spent his last four years in one and every time I visited (he was in NY and I was in FL) he cried like a baby when I left or begged me to kill him.Bob, I’m glad to hear you’re feeling better.
We currently have my girlfriend’s 99 year old mother in hospice care at our house and my girlfriend and some of her many siblings are caring for her, changing diapers, etc. The whole idea of one day living long enough to have to rely on others for such REALLY does not appeal to me. In fact the only thing worse is the alternative!
As for cars melting away from the top down - my dad always claimed you wax your car PRIMARILY to give the sun something to “eat” instead of the paint. He claimed that the shine was just a side bonus. I’ve alway remembered that and I try to wax a single panel each time I wash my cars. I default to the roof, trunk or hood since they get the most exposure to sunlight. Since California is known for its dirty air and we used to live right next to a freeway with all those cars kicking up dirt, I clay bar often too. After I wash, I make a new bucket of suds and use that to lube the clay. Works great, get the sticky dirt, airborne lead an acid rain particles off. (Knock on wood) I’ve never had an issue with auto clear coat flaking off.
Uncle Willie, I see your warden went to the same academy.Obey the warden. Things tend to do better when you do. Plus they can't say, "I told you so!"
Bugnut, thanks for checking in. I seem to be healing fast but have not mastered the kegel exercises yet. Liane accused me of dropping turds on the patio today. Sneaky *** dog!Bob, just checking in and am glad to find that the surgery left intact your humor, wit and story telling. I hope you mend fast and that the "all clear and get busy" buzzers sound at about the same time.
I have a 90's Chrysler that belonged to a relative. Just recently gave it a good bath and realized that the years of baking in the seldom found Ohio sun had removed the clear coat. If the front sheet metal had not been replaced and resprayed ~ 10 years back all of the clear coat would be gone!
Get well, sir!
Thank you Mike, I do my best to listen to my better half. Sometimes she forgets and asks me to do stuff sooner than the doctors recommend. Then, when I do what she asks and she remembers, I get that reminderGlad to hear the surgery went well Bob. Mind your better half's instructions during recovery.
.Uncle Willie, I did fracture it once a long time ago but not this time. Still don't know why they call it a funny bone. I wasn't laughing.They didn't operate on his funny bone!
Mine is 5'2"and maybe 110 soaking wet. I am not scared...Uncle Willie, I see your warden went to the same academy.
Oh Gawd, I can’t imagine how horrible that was. Terribly sorry to hear it, Bob. So so sorry you had to hear that but more so that he had to those feelings. Lord save us all from that.Dan, As bad as your home hospice care may seem, I feel it is far better than putting her in a nursing home. My father-in-law spent his last four years in one and every time I visited (he was in NY and I was in FL) he cried like a baby when I left or begged me to kill him.
Dan, until one has had to make these decisions and take these actions, it sounds like whining. It hits home when it happens to us. Mother's Day 2008 I brought a card, flowers and her favorite framed family photo to the hospice facility where she spent her final two weeks. Mom was sound asleep from all the morphine and I didn't try to wake her. After an hour by her bedside I kissed her and whispered in her ear. They called me at 3:00 that afternoon to tell me she passed.Oh Gawd, I can’t imagine how horrible that was. Terribly sorry to hear it, Bob. So so sorry you had to hear that but more so that he had to those feelings. Lord save us all from that.
I’m having such emotional trouble because my mother died 5 years ago in hospice. She was in a private home, they took good care of their trustees and we were there daily but my mother HATED it. She was there 6 months + and when she passed away one morning none of us had gotten there yet. I got there less than an hour after she’d passed with her mouth wide open and now I see Estela, my mother-in-law in asleep with her mouth wide open just like my mother’s was. I nearly puts me in ears each time I see it. I help the siblings raise her higher in her bed and she grips my hand and doesn’t want to let go. It’s just very tough.
On to much happier subjects, ok? I suppose waxing cars for you is about twice as much work as for the rest of us. You can’t do Mr. Miagi’s “wax on - wax off” routine with one arm. But if factory paint is kept in good condition, waxing with today’s products is so much easier than I remember it being in my youth.
Thanks to all you other guys tolerating my whining. I’ll call a “waaambulance” on myself now!

Scott, most of us don't get a lot of practice handling the end-of-life process and that's probably a good thing. My mother-in-law moved to Florida to a condo near us after her husband passed away. Less than a year later I dragged my wife off to Australia and stayed there two years. She told my wife to go and then made the 36+ hour trip to visit us. She and Liane had a fantastic time and she passed quietly one morning four years after our return. She was getting ready to go bowling when my wife came to pick her up. Couldn't think of a better exit.I was with my mom, FIL, and MIL when they passed in Hospice Care. Thankfully, All three were relatively quick and didn’t linger for months. My mother died at home, my in-laws in a residential care facility. They did an amazing job managing pain and allowing them to pass peacefully.
Bob - I used Blue Coral all the time on my old Datsun 208ZX - let it dry too much and you'd better have a bionic arm to get it off - and no fancy microfiber to help.... Here's another vintage product that is not in too high demand as the vinyl top option has lost it's lustre...Dan, until one has had to make these decisions and take these actions, it sounds like whining. It hits home when it happens to us. Mother's Day 2008 I brought a card, flowers and her favorite framed family photo to the hospice facility where she spent her final two weeks. Mom was sound asleep from all the morphine and I didn't try to wake her. After an hour by her bedside I kissed her and whispered in her ear. They called me at 3:00 that afternoon to tell me she passed.
I don't know which was worse but I remember graduating from DuPont No. 7 compound, polish and wax to the Blue Coral Treatment kit. If you let too much of either of those waxes sit too long on the paint before wiping it off, it was better to walk away than try to get it off with just elbow power (no one I knew in my youth had an electric buffer for anything but floors). For the young'uns who've never seen a Blue Coral kit, feast your eyes on this:
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Drives, I am posting more because it keeps me in the office and out of the garage or workshop. Very few things in the office weigh more than 8 pounds.I see you posting more and from your writings I can see your humor and old self shining thru do hope all is well or at least improving a bit daily.
All this end of life stuff is really hitting home cause both my parents my wife’s parents are still kicking but things are not quite the same now that mine are 88 and hers are 84.
Here’s to another great day above dirt.
Y'sguy, I'm glad to hear I make others feel better. I have had and continue to have a wonderful life and I choose to dwell on the best of it. My grandfather and father both died when I was a young man but I got to spend a lot of quality time with both of them. I missed out on a lot of summers spent with schoolmates but got to see all but four of our 50 states, all but one of the Canadian provinces and a huge swath of Mexico by the time I turned 15. Even my quiet summers were spent fishing with my grandfather, swimming in a pristine Vermont lake, helping foster kids with their farm chores and building stone forts in abandoned slate quarries.Good to see you back with your writing skill and humor. You have quite a good following here because it makes US all feel better! But that is pretty crazy because it's you who needs to feel better! And the sooner the better, right? So we can then go outside and find something heavy to lift. haha. Don't even think about it.
FF, when I figured out how to use it (aka I read the directions) Blue Coral put an amazing shine on my '47 Ford. Before microfiber there were cloth diapers and we had a lot of them. Only time we used disposable diapers was on that one 3-day vacation with the babies.Bob - I used Blue Coral all the time on my old Datsun 208ZX - let it dry too much and you'd better have a bionic arm to get it off - and no fancy microfiber to help.... Here's another vintage product that is not in too high demand as the vinyl top option has lost it's lustre...
Best product I've ever seen for a vinyl top, is a utility knife.[EDIT]: After we moved to Florida I found really good deals on low mileage Lincoln Town Tanks and they all had vinyl tops. I forget all the products I used trying to keep them looking nice. I see you have a few containers of nitromethane mix -- it smelled good coming out of my model airplane but really awesome belched out of a pair of AA/Fuel dragsters.
I didn't take a lot of pain meds. I would rather hurt than be out of control. It was a very un-fun few weeks.Uncle Willie, I suspect it looks better from this side looking in (I know how it feels from the other side). A little more morphine and I bet you could smile.

Bob,I can't remember the name of it anymore but there was a paste cleaner/wax on the market I could get for 99 cents at K Mart when I was 17 - so about 1972. I washed my purchased-new 1974 Vega GT (Yeah, I know, I know) more often than weekly and waxed it each time too! Not much else to do than work part time job in Sears paint department @ $1.90/hr and attend school. Stayed til I graduated college and got ALL the way up to $2.65/hr. Sheesh. It seemed like a lot at the time. The paint on that car was immaculate. Supposedly the last year Chevrolet used acrylic lacquer. After this picture I put B60x13 raised white letter tires on it and thought I was hot sh!t.
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Vega out for a bath. by jon72vega, on FlickrBobby, I couldn't afford to use Blue Coral all the time. It was a once-a-year thing with me. Bought our GTO brand new in November 1967 and took delivery in January 1968. After the 1.000 mile break-in I took it to the dealer for service. Car came back missing the cigarette lighter with half the vacuum lines disconnected, undercoat overspray down the whole passenger side and topped off with a scratch running the entire length of the driver side. Because a friend dropped me off after work the only people there were salesmen. The shop section was dark so all I saw was the black overspray and all I heard was the coughing and sputtering from the engine. I had to take the car or take out a loan for a cab ride home. To calm my nerves on the way home I wanted to smoke a cigarette and that's when my finger found the hole where the lighter was supposed to be. Went back to the dealer (next to last time) to learn it was all my own doing. Although clear coat would have also allowed me to get rid of the scratch, good old DuPont #7 compound and polish did the job. It also removed the traces of undercoat after I gave that side a gasoline bath.YEAH THE GOOD OLD PRE CLEARCOAT DAYS ..........wash wax repeat every week .......we were poor not rich like you Blue Coral guys plan old turtle wax.........I learnt the hard way never wax in the hot sun then have lunch 1/2 hour wash and apply wax ............2-3 hour buff it out before dad gets home........lol that weekly turtle way had her shining so that a rag would slide off the hood or fenders.............glad you are on the mend it takes a while but you will progress fast...............Bobbycoke

Dan, you're a man after my own heart. Whenever I found $0.99 car care products, I bought them. I also bought a new Vega GT but in 1971. The GTO was our family car but it guzzled gas. Besides the 40 miles a day back and forth to work, I drove another 35 miles to night school twice a week. Our second car from '68 to '71 was a Triumph Herald convertible, which could unsafely carry the four of us but not dog (black German Shepherd). Of course, with the top down you could fit a lot more. Here's my mother driving her mother, her sister and two friends quite safely and comfortably the day my father bought the car in 1963. When I inherited it in 1968 I realized it was possible for me to drive a 4-on-the-floor and did so for a decade (my '69 427 4-speed Corvette proved to be my undoing).I can't remember the name of it anymore but there was a paste cleaner/wax on the market I could get for 99 cents at K Mart when I was 17 - so about 1972. I washed my purchased-new 1974 Vega GT (Yeah, I know, I know) more often than weekly and waxed it each time too! Not much else to do than work part time job in Sears paint department @ $1.90/hr and attend school. Stayed til I graduated college and got ALL the way up to $2.65/hr. Sheesh. It seemed like a lot at the time. The paint on that car was immaculate. Supposedly the last year Chevrolet used acrylic lacquer. After this picture I put B60x13 raised white letter tires on it and thought I was hot sh!t.
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Jon, hijack away. My '71 didn't stay stock very long. I ordered it with positraction and the summer of 1972 I put a ****** header, Cherry Bomb header muffler and Koni shocks on it. Bought some new jets for the carburetor and had a friend enlarge them. All these changes were made following a Hot Rod magazine article that gave the car a bunch more horsepower. Like Dan, I upgraded tires but mine were not Firestone Wide Ovals -- they were Goodyear Polyglas A70/13 bias ply tires . It was quite an improvement to go to the B60/13R BFGoodrich Comp T/As.Bob,
Sorry for sidetracking your thread.
Couldn't help myself, Yey Chevy Vega!
Here's mine.
Vega out for a bath. by jon72vega, on Flickr
Scott, your mother was smart. Did she also make you and your siblings get their own insurance? So many of my friends put their kids on their policy and ended up paying through the nose for those graduation party oopsies.Summer of 1980. I was home from college, my brother was home on leave from the Navy, two younger siblings had just graduated from high school. Youngest brothers car died, he borrowed mine and promptly totaled it at a graduation party. My sister didn’t have a car. Mom assessed the 4 kids/no car situation and called in a pre-emptive strike. She bought 2 POS rust bucket 1972? Vega hatchbacks out of the KC Star classifieds at $250 each, threw the keys in a bowl on the kitchen table and said “ you four figure it out, my car is off limits for the summer!”
We made it work with the understanding that getting everyone to and from summer jobs had priority. My Navy brother did a lot of shuttling us around during his leave.
Good memories!
Dan, the Vega was my second new car and like the first, the salesman saw I was hooked. Paid too much for the car but I really loved it. When silver-dollar size paint chips started popping off the car, my love turned to like. They had to re-paint two doors and both rear quarters under warranty (after I held the district rep at gunpoint). Like turned to dislike when the head gasket blew a month after the warranty ran out. Dislike turned to hate when what I thought was gas sloshing in the tank turned out to be water in the quarter panel (that back corner of the rear window leaked from day one). Both rear quarters disintegrated before the car was five years old.Interesting that so many of us had Vega’s back in the day.
I’d had a ‘66 Chevy van because I was an IDIOT and didn’t really want the 1955 Chevy two door hardtop had bought new to bring home his newborn son (me!). He gave it to me in 1970. I fixed it up a lot in Auto Shop. But I was SO damn stupid. I kick myself every time I think of it.
Considered a Pinto (glad a Dodgers that bullet) a new Beetle but just couldn’t see paying $3,000 for one and an Opel Manta, which later I wished I had bought. Oh well the Vega only ever developed a bit of rust in the lower window corner of the hatch back. I absolutely DOTED on that car but even with that the rust developed.
Gil, the fuse arrived yesterday and I thought I would try replacing it first. I have taken the control panel out before but wasn't sure where the fuse was located. Couple of screws I could see from the first step of the stool took the movable vent panel off and one screw allowed me to lift the control panel out. I looked for hot spots on the control panel and took this photo to be sure to get the wires plugged back in.Hi Bob,
I'd be curious to know which part actually failed. I vote for the fuse as you say nothing is lit up, I'd try that first.



Dan, I understand the base price of the first model year was $2090. The GT package came with a 20hp stronger engine and we got a radio, all synchro 4-speed and posi rear so the list price (what I had to pay) was $2,600+. Back then car prices increased astronomically every year so 39% more three years later sounds about right. The idea of adding weight and giving up horsepower was foreign to me so I never even considered air conditioning in a car until Florida became my teacher. My GTO didn't have front disk brakes because the conventional wisdom was the constant drag of the calipers robbed a couple of horses.I paid $3600 out the door for my '74 Vega GT. It was the first new car I ever bought. My 2008 Chevy 3500HD dually was the 2nd and only other new car I've ever bought. I had ALMOST none of the rust issues so many guys had. The odd thing in hindsight was why I bought it without AC? It never occurred to me even though I am a born & raised native Californian.
Gil, had you not suggested the fuse I would have wasted time and money and still not have known what was wrong. It was definitely the sound of an expensive part going south. Funny thing was the online appliance parts place had the fuses on backorder but had all the more expensive thermostats in stock. I expect I'll be paying them something to take the parts back but I won't have wasted $150+.Sorry Bob, sounds like a really expensive part failed, at least it was worth the try. Hopefully the replacement holds up better.
Stay safe.
Gil, because Liane prefers to get bigger cubes from the standalone garage ice maker, the Samsung has frozen up solid. I can't even pull the bin out. I turned it off on the door control panel a few weeks ago but it looks like I need to aim some hot air in there from my little heat gun.PS, I should have said I hope it holds up better than the Samsung refrigerator! My ice maker still freezes up solid, the next door neighbor finally got someone to repair hers, but it still isn't right, the gasket doesn't line up and frost still builds up on it. Oh well!
Chevy72pu, I loved that car right up to the day it tried to run me over. If it had posi and A/C I would probably still have it. When I sold it there was a little rust in the bottom of the rear quarters but the serious rust was at the base of the backlite where water always collected (even in Florida). I always waited for the first snow to fall before I put the snow tires on. Looked silly having the car jacked up in the driveway with white stuff falling on me.Bob I love the '68 GTO. I put many a mile on my '69 but never on a set of snow tires.![]()
Gil, I have a small Wagner 350watt heat gun with a 3/4-inch nozzle. It's enough to trigger shrink tubing but doesn't put out scorching heat. I can hold my hand in the air stream four inches from the nozzle -- it's hot but I don't think it will melt the plastic. I noticed the exit chute on the ice maker is mostly metal so I'll give it a try after a few more weeks of having the ice maker off.For the ice maker, the repair guy used a portable steamer, said a heat gun will melt the plastic, for what it is worth. Good luck, as I recall you replaced the control board and parts of the ice maker all to no avail apparently. I've had two neighbors, one got a replacement refrigerator and the other, a full refund on the purchase price. May be my next course of pursuit....
Stewart, my house, cars and hobbies are making sure I don't slack off too much. A few days ago a schedule 40 PVC union on the sprinkler system split open but luckily there's a gate valve to shut the sprinkler system off without affecting the water to the house. I'm really thankful I put a union in that spot because it's easy to service the solenoid valve when it's plumbed like this.Looks like you are staying busy.![]()


Kirk, I too have a Samsung phone, a Galaxy J3 Achieve. I use it about as often as I used to use a pay phone. OK, I do use it as a portable newspaper when I have to wait a half hour after I get my monthly Xolair shots. Ting is my service provider and this year their highest monthly charge was $31 and lowest was $20. That's for two phones (Liane's is an Alcatel Go Flip phone).I started my first foray into the Samsung world when I purchased my current phone. For all it's reputation, I'm totally disappointed. From the sound of things you guys are saying, their stuff is pretty much junk.
Gil, I find the refrigerator and freezer sections of the Samsung are OK but I am not sure any of the manufacturers showed forethought when they put the ice maker in the refrigerator door. I prefer the ice maker in the freezer door of side-by-side boxes but SWMBO insisted on a French Door model. I still cringe every time I open the top door. Liane has been known to pull on things that don't work that way and when they don't respond her way she pulls harder (try pulling on the left door's movable flap seal). Also not a fan of bottom freezers because I have to dig down to the bottom to know what's in there (when did we buy frozen okra???).Phones and TVs seem fine, but appliances, not so much....