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Although we lived in a much higher priced neighborhood in Australia, the bunker across the street from us in Boca Raton is finally finished. We thought the New York City folks who bought the empty lot and built this thing would move in but it turns out they built it on spec. Only room they don't show in the ad is the garage. From what I've seen it's a 20'x22' two-car. I was very shocked at the asking price but even more shocked that it is already under contract. "Movin' on Up!"
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Does this make your great house tear down material???? Real estate really has become ridiculous in our great state.
 
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Looks good Bob, reminds me I need to finish the back side of mine
Thanks Jim. It's not like I finished, I still need to paint the top of the wall and do something about the A/C drain and then put up some top and bottom molding on the wall. Oh, and finish screwing or nailing the fields of the siding.
A man that shows you the backside of his shed, has no secrets left In life…….. Nice project Bob!
Thanks Mr.zippy, I'm too old to try to hide anything.
Great use of space and I like your rack, Bob!. Wait, that doesn't sound right!
Y'sguy, I decided the neighbors to the rear of me have turned their place into a rodent nest and junkyard so it was the least I could do.
Those damn New Yorkers.
John, I think you're on to something. New York City is full of square multi-story buildings so this must be like a little slice of home. For as fancy as the house is, it doesn't have an elevator and both the living room and master suite are on the second floor. I guess they just move out and buy a condo when they get old.
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Good work on the racks!
Thank you Jon! Also thank you for the triple gauge pillar pod reminder. Mine is in the mail. The oil pressure light came on in the PT Cruiser so I replaced the sender. It still comes on every once in a while so I'm putting in a gauge. Also putting in a boost/vacuum gauge and Air/Fuel Meter so I can verify extra fuel when I use the DiabloSport tuner to play with the boost (I have new axles in the parts collection).
Nice rack, Bob.
~Raccoon
Right! Scott, it's sad when guys reach an age when they actually grow their own rack. at a certain age.
Holy ****, that driveway at the bunker is nausea inducing.
Uncle Willie, I should have posted a warning because I'm pretty sure that mess could trigger an epileptic seizure in addition to nausea. It doesn't even have a consistent pattern, which makes it worse. Only bright side is the Florida sun will bleach out the darker cement pretty quickly (our roof was multi-shade gray cement tiles and they are now all light gray.
Probably can be seen from low Earth orbit........warn NASA......scratch that.... warn Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, also Richard Branson
Chrisb62, the owners had the house staged and professionally photographed, including some drone shots. This not being a gated community, people can build any style home they want and can even rent their home out. The orange roofed house is rented to a Florida Atlantic University fraternity so the yard is often overflowing with cars. One or more of the frat boys also seems to be running a mosquito breeding farm in the back yard.
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Does this make your great house tear down material???? Real estate really has become ridiculous in our great state.
I believe it does because our yard is larger than the Bunker's. The street we're on is 26 feet above sea level so it will be an island when everyone else is under water. We're not that far from being beachfront property if sea levels keep rising....
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That looks like it belongs in Florida, or California. Lucky you.
Kirk, what my neighbors do or like doesn't bother me at all. As long as they don't try to tell me what to do with my place. But you are right that this wouldn't show up many places besides the two sothern-most states on an ocean. It also doesn't bother me that someone is building a luxury home. My house value goes up but my property taxes are capped at 3% growth per year. Whoever lives there will be paying around $20,000 a year in taxes so I'm happy forking over my $3,200. (BTW, they paid $125,000 more for the lot than I paid for our house 25 years ago).
 

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Nice racks on your shed! I wonder how they would handle being attached to metal studs if I used proper anchors?

As for the house, the market has been crazy here too. I've often thought of just selling my house to move back into the rent house. If I can get a bigger check then what I paid for it, I would just buy a plot of land in the woods to build a garage and place a module home on the property when the prices come back down. Course I'm sure the folks who buys my house would want the front porch addition completed and not in it's current constructed state. Just dreaming here is all.

But considering a house on my block that was listed for $90,000 in 2015 just recently sold for $190,000 sure does make me think really hard about it.
 

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Yay my house is done. Now if they’ll just send the damn keys.

I figured you had some cash, but to be able to afford that place? DANG!!!!! And Bob, I hope you're up on all your first aid, cause I'm guessing when Shorty moves in across the street, you'll be over there dressing wounds pretty much daily.
 

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bob I put up 3 of those racks........thet are great I also went with 4" lag screws they really can hold a ton.....the one I put metal on must weigh that ! do not believe that they come with such small hardware they are a great product why cheap out on the fasteners???? oh profit I see!!!!!! stay healthy bobbycoke
 
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Nice racks on your shed! I wonder how they would handle being attached to metal studs if I used proper anchors?

As for the house, the market has been crazy here too. I've often thought of just selling my house to move back into the rent house. If I can get a bigger check then what I paid for it, I would just buy a plot of land in the woods to build a garage and place a module home on the property when the prices come back down. Course I'm sure the folks who buys my house would want the front porch addition completed and not in it's current constructed state. Just dreaming here is all.

But considering a house on my block that was listed for $90,000 in 2015 just recently sold for $190,000 sure does make me think really hard about it.
Cody, thanks for stopping by. I think those racks would work just fine on metal studs if you use toggle bolts. In my belt & suspender life I would put a piece of plywood between the rack and the drywall to spread the load. The rack has only three mounting hole drilled in each vertical but there's no reason you couldn't drill more.

The idea of selling our house gives me nightmares. Buyers don't just want you to fix things or finish projects, they want you to make the house over the way they dream of having it (no granite countertops is a deal breaker). Then you have to find another place, which means discovering the location of goods and services (grocery and drug stores, gas stations, big box stores, etc.). Just like homeowner associations, I dread the idea of a landlord telling me what I can and cannot do. Much as I like the idea of a place in the woods with lots of space, we spend way too much time on healthcare to endure long drives to the doctors and medical care facilities. Bad enough sitting in a waiting room, add an hour drive at both ends of the visit and the day is shot.

That house across the street is an anomaly. The ones I've seen with that level of high end stuff have a deep water canal behind them so the huge hole in the water can be steps from the house.
Yay my house is done. Now if they’ll just send the damn keys.
Stewart, there are no keys. You need to send me your thumb so I can verify your punch list has been taken care of. I didn't understand the downstairs bedroom suite because it's kinda small with a pretty small bathroom. Then Liane told me it was the maid's room and I understood. On second thought, is that room for your full-time nurse?
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Note the lack of curtains or shades on those solar panels (facing west).
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No tub, just a shower. How primitive.:cool:
Storage rack looks great and really efficient use of space, nice work Bob.
Thank you Hewey. I am following your deck upgrade and expect it will make the space very inviting.
I figured you had some cash, but to be able to afford that place? DANG!!!!! And Bob, I hope you're up on all your first aid, cause I'm guessing when Shorty moves in across the street, you'll be over there dressing wounds pretty much daily.
Kirk, Floridians have lots of ways to bring in extra cash, just like your hemp field. Shorty's new house has lots of east- and west-facing windows to aid daytime growing.
Busy as a one armed paper..................Sorry Bob bad joke
Chris, best joke of my life. First thing I did in our first house in 1966 was put up vinyl wallpaper in the kitchen. Mentioned what a pain it was to the guys in the office space we shared. Two days later, one of them mentioned to a visitor he was busy as a one-armed paper hanger and I said "Fred, you really know how to hurt a guy" and gave him the beaten puppy-eye look. Gave him a few seconds to turn red and start stuttering. I started laughing and told him I was going to a neighborhood Halloween party as Captain Hook (I had to wear an eye patch back then). Never had another tense moment with that group of people (I think word spread that I had a sense of humor).

In 1989 I was a middle manager at IBM and an e-mail requested help filling a two year technical writing assignment in Australia. Being a selfish *****, I put my name in (wasn't getting along with my new boss). I was invited for an interview with one of the guys who was visiting Boca on other business. We met for lunch and I asked if the laboratory in Sydney was busy. His mouth opens and he says "We're as busy as one-armed paper hangers" before his brain can connect to his mouth. I saw the lit-up deer look and laughed, assuring him it wasn't the first time. Not sure it was the reason I got the job but pretty sure it didn't hurt.
bob I put up 3 of those racks........thet are great I also went with 4" lag screws they really can hold a ton.....the one I put metal on must weigh that ! do not believe that they come with such small hardware they are a great product why cheap out on the fasteners???? oh profit I see!!!!!! stay healthy bobbycoke
Bobby, I liked the design and thought it looked pretty strong. When I saw the plastic molly/screws that came with the racks, I thought they were kidding and there was another bag of screws missing from my box. They were missing from the second box so I concluded they were serious. Not sure who has used their hardware to install the rack but they better be using the racks to hold up a doll collection or boxes of Styrofoam peanuts.
 

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Chris, best joke of my life. First thing I did in our first house in 1966 was put up vinyl wallpaper in the kitchen. Mentioned what a pain it was to the guys in the office space we shared. Two days later, one of them mentioned to a visitor he was busy as a one-armed paper hanger and I said "Fred, you really know how to hurt a guy" and gave him the beaten puppy-eye look. Gave him a few seconds to turn red and start stuttering. I started laughing and told him I was going to a neighborhood Halloween party as Captain Hook (I had to wear an eye patch back then). Never had another tense moment with that group of people (I think word spread that I had a sense of humor).

In 1989 I was a middle manager at IBM and an e-mail requested help filling a two year technical writing assignment in Australia. Being a selfish *****, I put my name in (wasn't getting along with my new boss). I was invited for an interview with one of the guys who was visiting Boca on other business. We met for lunch and I asked if the laboratory in Sydney was busy. His mouth opens and he says "We're as busy as one-armed paper hangers" before his brain can connect to his mouth. I saw the lit-up deer look and laughed, assuring him it wasn't the first time. Not sure it was the reason I got the job but pretty sure it didn't hurt.



I remember both those stories , so knew you had a sense of humor..... never know if it is a good day for jokes or to be quiet.

I have a partial amputation of my right hand (missing pinkie and half of ring finger plus part of palm from a punch press accident) and have been asked how I deal with missing those parts, I always say that i'm not as good with a hammer as I used to be.........

Not as bad as your injuries but know that attitude overcomes most all difficulties ......... and feel you are the epitome of good attitude about life's sledge hammer interruptions.
 
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They are waiting on proof of insurance.
Scott, folks who can afford that house are probably paying cash and don't need no stinking insurance. I expect to see machine gun ports on the roof, disguised as water outlets.
Chris, best joke of my life. First thing I did in our first house in 1966 was put up vinyl wallpaper in the kitchen. Mentioned what a pain it was to the guys in the office space we shared. Two days later, one of them mentioned to a visitor he was busy as a one-armed paper hanger and I said "Fred, you really know how to hurt a guy" and gave him the beaten puppy-eye look. Gave him a few seconds to turn red and start stuttering. I started laughing and told him I was going to a neighborhood Halloween party as Captain Hook (I had to wear an eye patch back then). Never had another tense moment with that group of people (I think word spread that I had a sense of humor).

In 1989 I was a middle manager at IBM and an e-mail requested help filling a two year technical writing assignment in Australia. Being a selfish *****, I put my name in (wasn't getting along with my new boss). I was invited for an interview with one of the guys who was visiting Boca on other business. We met for lunch and I asked if the laboratory in Sydney was busy. His mouth opens and he says "We're as busy as one-armed paper hangers" before his brain can connect to his mouth. I saw the lit-up deer look and laughed, assuring him it wasn't the first time. Not sure it was the reason I got the job but pretty sure it didn't hurt.



I remember both those stories , so knew you had a sense of humor..... never know if it is a good day for jokes or to be quiet.

I have a partial amputation of my right hand (missing pinkie and half of ring finger plus part of palm from a punch press accident) and have been asked how I deal with missing those parts, I always say that i'm not as good with a hammer as I used to be.........

Not as bad as your injuries but know that attitude overcomes most all difficulties ......... and feel you are the epitome of good attitude about life's sledge hammer interruptions.
Chris, I only worked a big shear and punch press for a few months in 1963 and it gave me chills every time the big shaft came down. Your injury seems far worse than mine because I never really used my left hand. OK, I used it to wave a glove at baseballs that got close to me. But my right hand? That's everything and I'm upset the joints are going south. I discovered the life we have is worth living, even if it isn't the one we dreamed of as kids.
OK Bob.....nice rack.....and don't mean your man *****! Where did you get these? Link or website or local big box store? Thanks in advance....
Mark, my bad. I usually post my source to help my friends spend their money. I ordered those from Amazon but other places also sell them for around the same price. Here's the one I ordered (ordered two to handle longer stuff.
 
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Bob, Thanks for the link. I'm sure SWMBO will appreciate you helping me spend her money. As she always says, "what's mine is mine and what's yours in mine."
Mark, are you telling me you live with my wife? I was wondering where she goes on those "shopping trips" and doesn't come home with anything. Maybe they just belong to the same club....
 

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Bob, the solar panels have the smart tint installed so I’m covered. How did you know I was going to have some loaded pigmy palms on the roof?
 
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Bob,

I installed the same set of racks last winter with a similar fastener for wood storage. I didn’t even think about using them for ladders and pipe. Now I plan on picking up another set of racks this weekend.
 
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Bob, the solar panels have the smart tint installed so I’m covered. How did you know I was going to have some loaded pigmy palms on the roof?
Stewart, I'm glad you considered the comfort of the peasant who will live in that room (although I did notice you had automated shades installed in your master bedroom). I wondered about the pigmy palms but they are very effective camouflage. I can't really tell but is that a Kongsberg Remote Weapon System?
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Bob,

I installed the same set of racks last winter with a similar fastener for wood storage. I didn’t even think about using them for ladders and pipe. Now I plan on picking up another set of racks this weekend.
TJ, I really like these racks. I tend to overload every storage system so this one will be no exception. I'm sure I'll be rearranging several times but for now it is working better than expected.

I think I have a slight fixation on your barn. Had a barn dream a few weeks ago and it was a mix of my aunt's barn from my childhood and yours. There was a pretty fancy dust collector in the loft but there were also cows in their stalls down below. I was trying to automate the manure cart (I still have the super heavy duty dolly from the manure bin).
 

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Hi Bob.
I joined you in the joys of pool ownership. Our vacuum was cleaning the exact same spot on the wall everyday, so I pulled it apart to see what was not happening. The best I could figure was the three pronged sprocket on the end I’d the shaft wasn’t moving, so I ordered that piece, new gears and “seals”. $65 worth of plastic.
Im thinking of designing something in plastic, don’t care if it works or not, and then selling the replacement parts at about 1500% markup.
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Im thinking of designing something in plastic, don’t care if it works or not, and then selling the replacement parts at about 1500% markup.
Craig, that sounds like a lot of work. Just make an exact copy of that rubber vacuum skirt that goes over the brushes. I pay $20 for a two-pack and forget where I put the second one so I buy two more.
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Craig, that sounds like a lot of work. Just make an exact copy of that rubber vacuum skirt that goes over the brushes. I pay $20 for a two-pack and forget where I put the second one so I buy two more.
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My wife has been handling that rubber skirt, I just take the bigger stuff.
And I let her handle the spare parts, because she don’t forget anything!!!!
 

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I always think I would love to have my own pool. Reading here reminds me that I am not willing to work as hard as you and others on the equipment and paraphernalia that is required to have one. I enjoy the water though and have a neighborhood YWCA that charges a fee of $45 a month for seniors (I qualify well beyond this). At times I have considered this $45 a month too high. So, I return to Bob Heine's thread of knowledge. I also swim regularly in the nearby lake. So, there is the expense of driving 39 minutes to the location. Please don't misunderstand, I still envy you for having your own. Well, maybe admire is better, or happy for you. In other words, I am the guy who would just come over and just swim for awhile and when done would tell you how nice it is that you have such a great pool. ; )
 
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My wife has been handling that rubber skirt, I just take the bigger stuff.
And I let her handle the spare parts, because she don’t forget anything!!!!
Craig, that sounds just a tiny bit sexist. Do you have difficulty handling a skirt? :bitchslap
Liane is the opposite. She is very creative putting things away. When she uses one of my screwdrivers it usually ends up in the drawer with the sockets. Or in the kitchen drawer with the knives. Never the same place twice.
I always think I would love to have my own pool. Reading here reminds me that I am not willing to work as hard as you and others on the equipment and paraphernalia that is required to have one. I enjoy the water though and have a neighborhood YWCA that charges a fee of $45 a month for seniors (I qualify well beyond this). At times I have considered this $45 a month too high. So, I return to Bob Heine's thread of knowledge. I also swim regularly in the nearby lake. So, there is the expense of driving 39 minutes to the location. Please don't misunderstand, I still envy you for having your own. Well, maybe admire is better, or happy for you. In other words, I am the guy who would just come over and just swim for awhile and when done would tell you how nice it is that you have such a great pool. ; )
Y'sguy, the pool thing started with my boating hobby. Before we bought a boat we rode along with our friends. The kids hated wearing life jackets so I wanted to be certain they could swim. In the mid-'60s to mid-'70s we lived close to the Hudson River so we went down to the shore only to discover a near-cesspool body of water. An above ground pool seemed like a cheap alternative to hospital stays. When we moved to Florida in '75, the house we fell in love with came with a pool. Pools don't add a whole lot to the price of a home down here but they are extremely common. Would have been happy to buy our current home without a pool but it ticked off every box for the retirement home of our dreams. Maintaining a Pool in Florida is like maintaining a boat up north. It takes some work but tools and machines make it pretty painless.
Your wife has a rubber skirt??? I've heard about those clubs. :D
Pete, I'm getting a little itchy from that image.
 
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I know I shouldn't do this but because many of us need to avoid breathing dust, I came across a pretty good deal on N95 filters. Not masks, just filters. The N95 disposable masks I've seen cost around $1.00 each. If, like me, you do a bit of spray painting with automotive paint, you use a 3M mask with organic vapor cartridges, like this one:
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When I'm sanding or power sawing, all I need is a dust filter but the 3M mask needs an adapter and retainer. Amazon has the pair of adapters for $8 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009POHIRK/?tag=atomicindus08-20):
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You also need the filter retainer, which Amazon also has for another $6.90 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0020G2XOS/?tag=atomicindus08-20):
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The last piece of the puzzle is the N95 filter (I think that means it's good for small particles). Like the plastic items, you need a pair of filters so divide the number of items in half. This is the interesting part because Amazon sells a 10-pack of N95 filters for $18.76 ($3.75 a pair) and that's the bad news. The good news is Amazon is selling a case of 100 N95 filters (ten 10-packs) for $14.50 ($0.29 a pair): (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KD70PU0/?tag=atomicindus08-20):
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If you prefer, you can avoid the $14.90 for the plastic pieces and just buy the round pink filters but 100 of those (50 pair) will set you back $304.07.
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Bob Heine said:

If you prefer, you can avoid the $14.90 for the plastic pieces and just buy the round pink filters but 100 of those (50 pair) will set you back $304.
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After-all, how-much is it worth to avoid COPD? Though I did check, that is about 41% more-than the cost of 300 made in USA, FMJ .45 cartridges when you can find 'em, at the Bass Pro Shops/Outdoor World, just south of FLL (Ft. Lauderdale International Airport).

I have a couple of cartridge masks, and I probably should buy a newer one, as I have a hard time finding cartridges for these. I'm also due to hit-up Joanne Fabrics for some elastic strapping for them, though.
 
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Bob Heine said:

If you prefer, you can avoid the $14.90 for the plastic pieces and just buy the round pink filters but 100 of those (50 pair) will set you back $304.


After-all, how-much is it worth to avoid COPD? Though I did check, that is about 41% more-than the cost of 300 made in USA, FMJ .45 cartridges when you can find 'em, at the Bass Pro Shops/Outdoor World, just south of FLL (Ft. Lauderdale International Airport).

I have a couple of cartridge masks, and I probably should buy a newer one, as I have a hard time finding cartridges for these. I'm also due to hit-up Joanne Fabrics for some elastic strapping for them, though.
Philip, turns out for me that avoiding COPD is worth about $500. I use those masks when I'm sanding, grinding and painting with aerosol cans but when I'm spraying automotive paint that contains isocyanurates I use a supplied air system. My system is set up to have the air intake and blower motor outside and the hose and mask inside the garage. I put a pipe, with garden hose threads at each end, through the garage wall. The Breathecool II supplied air system with a full face mask is $499 when it's in stock.
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The Breathecool II looks like a good system. One thing that sticks with me after a career in EMS on fire-rescue, is the laboring 'air-hunger' of the COPD patients. In the winter, when a low-pressure front comes through, you would get calls from the COPD patients, and their dyspnea was often profound.

I was at a salvage yard and I saw a McKesson medical air compressor, all set-up with filters, inside the office, I'm sure those probably go for $3-4K apiece. It was in a totaled truck, when the truck came-into the yard. At the time, I didn't have the $ to get it, I could have put it on a credit card, but I really don't do much for painting, except for rattle cans. As I recall I think they wanted ~$400 asking.
 
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Not being able to breathe properly is horrible. I spent plenty of time in the hospital as a kid and under an oxygen tent at home. My parents considered upending our lives and moving to AZ. Asthma was pretty misunderstood at the time and rescue drugs weren't around yet. I missed a lot of fun things but managed to make up for it in other areas I think. Unfortunately now at 70 years old and even earlier the Asthma began to sneak back in. So, I'm good with wearing a mask for aerosols and painting and the like. The 3m mask you show first is my go-to setup. I used to think before I tried them that they couldn't possibly work with the hard stuff, but they do. I'm still amazed at how they can actually cut even the smell of heavy thinners and solvents to prevent headaches and damaging your brain thang. I only wish I had started wearing them much earlier. Oh, and earplugs as well. Also, you don't look very cool with all the stuff on but I had to get over that a long time ago!
I honestly think most aerosol paints work faster against you now than they used to, but that maybe my age too. I inhaled way to much of that **** growing up.
 
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The Breathecool II looks like a good system. One thing that sticks with me after a career in EMS on fire-rescue, is the laboring 'air-hunger' of the COPD patients. In the winter, when a low-pressure front comes through, you would get calls from the COPD patients, and their dyspnea was often profound.

I was at a salvage yard and I saw a McKesson medical air compressor, all set-up with filters, inside the office, I'm sure those probably go for $3-4K apiece. It was in a totaled truck, when the truck came-into the yard. At the time, I didn't have the $ to get it, I could have put it on a credit card, but I really don't do much for painting, except for rattle cans. As I recall I think they wanted ~$400 asking.
Philip, I chose the system based on price and its 115v motor. While $500 is a lot of money in my world, it's a drop in the bucket when you start painting cars. I paid about $500 for an Iwata LPH400 spray gun and could have paid even more for a Satajet. A kit consisting of a gallon of automotive basecoat plus a gallon of clearcoat comes in at around $500 and a selection of sandpaper disks, strips and the related machines and hand blocks runs another $500 so you get used to the wallet pain quickly.

Not sure what I would do with a medical air compressor. I do have a CPAP machine that blows air into my nighttime sleeping mask. For the garage I have a Harbor Freight 3.5hp 60-gallon single stage 240v compressor that is about the minimum for automotive painting. I think I got it for around $400. Our toys are no longer found in the Dollar Store.
Not being able to breathe properly is horrible. I spent plenty of time in the hospital as a kid and under an oxygen tent at home. My parents considered upending our lives and moving to AZ. Asthma was pretty misunderstood at the time and rescue drugs weren't around yet. I missed a lot of fun things but managed to make up for it in other areas I think. Unfortunately now at 70 years old and even earlier the Asthma began to sneak back in. So, I'm good with wearing a mask for aerosols and painting and the like. The 3m mask you show first is my go-to setup. I used to think before I tried them that they couldn't possibly work with the hard stuff, but they do. I'm still amazed at how they can actually cut even the smell of heavy thinners and solvents to prevent headaches and damaging your brain thang. I only wish I had started wearing them much earlier. Oh, and earplugs as well. Also, you don't look very cool with all the stuff on but I had to get over that a long time ago!
I honestly think most aerosol paints work faster against you now than they used to, but that maybe my age too. I inhaled way to much of that **** growing up.
Y'sguy, I feel blessed not to have suffered allergy and asthma attacks growing up. My brother had those problems and I remember feeling guilty. With all the mold and mildew surrounding me I am surprised I don't have more breathing problems -- I'm OK with just the CPAP for my apnea. I just picked up another face shield that has room for the earmuffs and 3M 4001 mask. There are no mirrors in the garage for good reason.

If you use the organic vapor filter cartridges, be aware they have activated charcoal in them and once you take them out of their sealed bags, they start absorbing stuff, like carbon monoxide, reducing their effectiveness. Try to store the cartridges in sealed Ziploc-style bags as soon as you are done with a painting project. Nowadays I use them twice and then toss them in the trash. You don't get a do-over when you mess up your lungs.
 

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This is all great info, Bob. I'm going to have to try to remember where in this thread this info is. I plan on doing a ton of automotive painting in the near future.
 

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Took me the a few cups of coffee to catch up but it looks as if you are pretty much back up to speed Bob. Nice repairs on all the broken stuff. I especially enjoy the Detroit history.
I had a ‘67 tempest in my youth and I can remember drooling over a new “Judge”. I did however buy a Fiero new in 1984, it was a fun car to beat the hell out of.

They broke ground for our pool 3 days ago and making good progress, scheduled to shot concrete on Tuesday. Pools are either a love or hate thing with a lot of folks. I’ve always been a water rat so this house gets a pool and spa. 31A92127-92AB-4D5D-940E-EBBDE72F2A69.jpeg
 

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Philip, turns out for me that avoiding COPD is worth about $500. I use those masks when I'm sanding, grinding and painting with aerosol cans but when I'm spraying automotive paint that contains isocyanurates I use a supplied air system. My system is set up to have the air intake and blower motor outside and the hose and mask inside the garage. I put a pipe, with garden hose threads at each end, through the garage wall. The Breathecool II supplied air system with a full face mask is $499 when it's in stock.
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I have that same system, seems to work well when I can't even smell the paint.
 
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