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I am trying to help a friend out, We were talking that we can't run a cable that far due to signal not being the greatest. What are your thought to get a camera that far away?

Basically have main base in the house but camera at fence line.
 
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Motion activated game camera.

I think there are some with cellular connections that auto upload everything to the cloud and alert your phone.

I think solar/battery and good for at least 30 days on battery alone.
 
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They do make coax to ethernet adapters. I have no experience with them but RG6 will run that distance and RG11 will run 1500 feet according to Google. Having said that - you are going to have a lot of money in cable and adapters so a game camera is looking pretty good.
 
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Ubiquity makes a inexpensive wireless solution for about $500. That’s assuming you have power at the camera location.
 
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Burried in the low level Ethernet protocol is a limitation of about 100 meters. This has to do with timing of lost packets. It does not have much to do with loss of signal in copper wire.
 
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In my world $500 isn't inexpensive.
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Welp it’s a perspective issue I suppose. 1000ft of conduit, fiber, pwr conductors and a couple media converters makes it sound like a deal. I’m sure there’s cheaper deals out there but I don’t know how robust they are.
 
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I would suggest you look into Dahua ePOE (extended POE)

"ePoE devices deliver long distance power and data transmission systems whether in an analog infrastructure or as part of a complete ePoE solution. ePoE devices connect to back-end devices via a single Ethernet cable up to 800 meters in length, and connect devices via a single coaxial cable up to 1,000 meters in length without the need for any repeater devices"

I don't have any experience with it but go over to ipcamtalk.com and start reading or better yet, make a post asking about it. Also, there is a member, Andy, that sells Dahua and private brand versions directly from Hong Kong with great prices and support. I would highly recommend you talk (message him over there) before you buy anything. I remember someone ran 1,000' using ePOE without problems

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Watch this video - they have (3) 1,000' boxes of Cat5 hooked up to a Dahua ePOE camera and switch and it is working fine

Here is an example of an ePOe cam from Andy's Amazon store
 
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Wifi camera, solar charged battery and a pair of "yagi" style antennas with a wifi bridge. That should do the trick so long as you have line of sight
 
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Pretty much anything I know of requires power at the camera. That could be answered with a solar panel battery set up.
 
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Hey a wireless camera with a detachable antenna and a yagi type antenna. Get a "wireless bridge" with a detachable antenna and a second yagi. Configure the bridge and plug it into the network. Now configure the camera to the hotspot created by the bridge. Set them up and align the antennas. Make sure they are oriented in the same plane as well as pointing toward each other. You should be good to go. With decent equipment that should easily traverse 1000 feet.

There are actually many other styles of antennas that will work as well. Those are just my preference. Before I went out and bought an antenna I'd try this. Find an antenna calculator. Determine the spacing between elements for a 3 element yagi. Take a cardboard tube like from paper towels or Christmas tree wrappers. The antenna on your wifi device is the "driven" element. Two pieces of coat hanger are the passives. Make a whole in the tube and stick the wifi antenna through. Use a drop of hot glue to go to hold it. Put the coat hangers at the correct distances. Now do the same with a repeater or even an access point at the other end. Alright the antennas and see how the signal looks. If it doesn't work, well, you made it out of paper towel tubes and coat hangers , what do you expect. It doesn't mean the real stuff won't work, so just give the real antennas a shot.

If it DOES work, it's at least proof of concept. Either get some cables and plastic and redo it in a permanent way, or just go buy the right stuff. If your super lucky, then you he cameral will be in a position where you can bud a little clip to hold the parasitic elements in place and point it at you bridge, without even having to have a cable.

Its just a crazy idea I had off the top of my head, but it might work. But you need to get the spacing of the parasitic elements right. right.

Another trick is putting a flat metal sheet behind the antenna at the right distance, or mounting it is he right distand away from a metal wall. That can get you some gain
 
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Since there's power at the camera location there's no problem to go wireless.

The one thing I don't get about wireless cameras is that they just about all still need power. Usually getting power to then that's the problem and data cable is no big deal.

I use trail cams outside. The batteries last for months. It's the card getting full of any movement that's the downside. They fill up fast with pictures of leaves and branches moving.
 
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Maybe he's taking it off a light or something. But if he has power he's set. I just had another idea. There are devices that can send Ethernet data over the power line. You plug a pair of them I to the outlets. I think that might just be the ticket. I've never used them but this seems promising. I'm thinking you connect one at the camera, and the second one into the circuit just after it enters the house or somewhere near the box. The only issue I see is how far can it go.

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klassenl said:
In my world $500 isn't inexpensive.
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You can do it with Ubiquity nodes for less than $200. Sometimes way less. The internet link I set up temp for daughters house was about $140 total for two 2.4g nodes. 500' distance, through one wood wall, line of sight.
 
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Ubiquiti will have something. I used to have a outdoor access point on the back of my house. I was sick and tired of no WiFi in my detached shop and bought a AP from someone's recommendation. I could go for a walk down the street and have WiFi well over 500 feet away. I no longer have that AP as it became obsolete, but Ubiquiti will certainly have something.
 
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The link I posted earlier will be the Ubiquiti Nanobeam 5ac units you want to use. They come in around $100 each and are rock solid. Configure them to talk to each other (simple instructions included in the kit) plug the "base" one into your home internet, mount on the roof/wall facing the fence. UI has a cheaper one, but its 4 times the size, and will look pretty weird mounted on your fence.

Mount the remote one on a poll at the fence, point it at the base unit, plug camera into the network jack on the remote unit, ensure both the camera and remote unit have power and that is pretty much it. At 1k distance with LOS, you can easily sit a 300+mbs which is super over kill for a camera, but who cares, just means a nice clear picture when you are looking at it.

Those trend units posted will most likely work as well, I personally do not have any experience with those, so I cannot comment on the product. I use those UI units in production environments for the hospital I work at. Again, rock solid little units.
 
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I have a tp link extender I made a weather proof box for and stuck on the outside of my building. It gets everywhere I'd want Wi-Fi at on my property.
 
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Keep said:
The link I posted earlier will be the Ubiquiti Nanobeam 5ac units you want to use. They come in around $100 each and are rock solid. Configure them to talk to each other (simple instructions included in the kit) plug the "base" one into your home internet, mount on the roof/wall facing the fence. UI has a cheaper one, but its 4 times the size, and will look pretty weird mounted on your fence.

Mount the remote one on a poll at the fence, point it at the base unit, plug camera into the network jack on the remote unit, ensure both the camera and remote unit have power and that is pretty much it. At 1k distance with LOS, you can easily sit a 300+mbs which is super over kill for a camera, but who cares, just means a nice clear picture when you are looking at it.

Those trend units posted will most likely work as well, I personally do not have any experience with those, so I cannot comment on the product. I use those UI units in production environments for the hospital I work at. Again, rock solid little units.
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Exactly this. And if your camera is PoE, you can just plug it into the 2nd port on the bridge and get it's power from there.

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JSS said:
I am trying to help a friend out, We were talking that we can't run a cable that far due to signal not being the greatest. What are your thought to get a camera that far away?

Basically have main base in the house but camera at fence line.
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I did this, not quite 1000 feet away though. We used IP cameras that were set in the trees. They were powered by a 100 watt solar panel, a deep cycle group 24 battery, and made sure that the setup had a "battery low voltage" shut down. We used ubiquiti point to point for the wireless internet. Whole deal was powered by a simple POE hub. Worked great for years.
 
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Another thing to keep in mind is lighting exposure. I wouldn't run 300ft. outdoors. Ymmv depending on location.
 
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rjacobs said:
Motion activated game camera.

I think there are some with cellular connections that auto upload everything to the cloud and alert your phone.

I think solar/battery and good for at least 30 days on battery alone.
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what this guy said ^^^
 
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If you have a Wi-Fi signal this may work for you. I have one at the end of a very long driveway and it works well.

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