GASP ! It finally happened !!

[theoldwizard1]

I can not remember the last time I went to do maintenance on a car and did NOT have the correct tool !

It turns out that 2014 and newer Ford Edge use a STUPID bolt for the front brake calipers. 11mm hex/Allen. The 2 sets I have stop at 8mm. The 2 auto parts stores we visited stop at 10mm. Luckily Menard's had a 9mm - 15mm set for about $30.

 

[Meursault74]

I thought this lament looked somewhat familiar

Need allex/hex head sockets... Amazon preferred.

So I did the brakes on my wifes 2015 edge ( first time, low mileage vehicle etc ). I couldnt believe that this thing called for 11mm hex socket for the front pins. I didnt have one, Advance Auto, Auto zone, Lowes or HD didnt have one. NOR did they have a set. So Im off to buy a set now. Mine...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[FuzzyTiger]

I'm jealous! I work on my European cars and I'm pretty sure I haven't done a job in the last couple years without needing to go tool shopping. Strictly speaking I probably could have made do for a few of them but what's the point of a project if not as an excuse to buy more tools?

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

If you have SAE 7/16 will work. My Ford Escape uses 9mm and 7mm since the calipers have both been replaced but 9mm was the factory size. Luckily the auto parts store did have that one because I didn’t have that size at the time. I think I do have an 11 in my large master set I bought.

 

[kbeefy]

7/16 was a bit loose when I had to buy a $40 11mm. I was worried it would round out the fastener since it was so tight.

 

[OneDollarSaab]

Maybe there's a Torx size you can hammer in there. Definitely never had to deal with 11mm Allen.

 

[corn chip]

ford has done plenty of unthinkable things over the years. if your engine has the internal waterpump ill send my prayers it never goes bad lol

 

[FMB4]

OT, but not just Ford in my experience. Next thing you know the manufacturers will start using 11.33 millimeter fasteners just to keep us happy.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

11mm is a common caliper pin size. CJDR uses it as well.

I'd prepare a tool budget for that 2014 escape, things are tight and not as servicible as the 4 cyl models of the past. Wait until you change the water pump.

 

[Bubba Fett]

Wouldn't a 7/16 fit?

 

[kbeefy]

I'd prepare a tool budget for that 2014 escape, things are tight and not as servicible as the 4 cyl models of the past. Wait until you change the water pump.

Or Alternator.... Hahaha!

Whoops... OP has a Flex.
WP on the 3.5 is a Timing chain job. 11 hours IIRC. WP bearing is oil lubricated. I had a customer that was awesome with maintenance and his went out at 100k. I think it was an oiling issue.... might consider tightening up the LOF schedule or doing a crankcase flush every couple oil changes.

 

[seber]

Wouldn't a 7/16 fit?

That's .004 oversize. I can't imagine it would not go in. At worst it might need a little persuasion.

 

[Showkey]

^^^^^^^^^^^File each flat just a little ????

 

[619DioFan]

That's .004 oversize. I can't imagine it would not go in. At worst it might need a little persuasion.

Quick pass on the grinder makes it 11mm no problem

 

[unslow1]

I remember running all over town to find a 9mm Allen for an earlier Escape. Ford and their better ideas. Anything they can think of to make it hard to work on.

 

[Tools4Me]

I see threads on GJ quite often, where people are in immediate need of a 7mm or a 9mm hex as well. Lots of sets don't include those sizes. I think everyone should pick up a Bondhus 12195 metric L wrench set just in case. It's only $12, the L wrenches are made out of good quality steel, and the set includes the harder to find sizes of 3.5mm, 4.5mm, 5.5mm, 7mm, and 9mm.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E7XJGG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

While you're at it, buy an 11mm L wrench as well for $6 more.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HW8ZBG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I got tired of encountering hex fasteners I didn't have the right tool for, so I ended up selling off the multiple sets I had originally accumulated and instead bought everything I wanted in the exact form I prefer. I now have every size up to 22mm and 7/8".

-Sizes up to 6mm and 1/4" I have in L wrench (Bondhus), insert bit (Wiha), and power bit (Wiha) form
-Commonly used larger sizes from 6mm to 22mm and 1/4" to 7/8" I have in L wrench (Bondhus) and bit socket (Proto) form
-Rarely used larger sizes like 11/16", 13/16", 15mm, 16mm, 18mm, 20mm, and 21mm I have only in 1/2" drive bit socket form (Titan). Most brands don't make these sizes in L wrenches at all. I usually only encounter one of the larger rare sizes when working on bicycles, motorcycles, or automotive drain fittings, so the Titan bit sockets have worked fine so far.

 

[theoldwizard1]

ford has done plenty of unthinkable things over the years. if your engine has the internal waterpump ill send my prayers it never goes bad lol

Yeah BIG mistake on that one !

Some blame needs to go to the owners. If you have low coolant and no external leak, where is it going ?

 

[joel63]

I see threads on GJ quite often, where people are in immediate need of a 7mm or a 9mm hex as well. Lots of sets don't include those sizes. I think everyone should pick up a Bondhus 12195 metric L wrench set just in case. It's only $12, the L wrenches are made out of good quality steel, and the set includes the harder to find sizes of 3.5mm, 4.5mm, 5.5mm, 7mm, and 9mm.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E7XJGG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

While you're at it, buy an 11mm L wrench as well for $6 more.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HW8ZBG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I got tired of encountering hex fasteners I didn't have the right tool for, so I ended up selling off the multiple sets I had originally accumulated and instead bought everything I wanted in the exact form I prefer. I now have every size up to 22mm and 7/8".

-Sizes up to 6mm and 1/4" I have in L wrench (Bondhus), insert bit (Wiha), and power bit (Wiha) form
-Commonly used larger sizes from 6mm to 22mm and 1/4" to 7/8" I have in L wrench (Bondhus) and bit socket (Proto) form
-Rarely used larger sizes like 11/16", 13/16", 15mm, 16mm, 18mm, 20mm, and 21mm I have only in 1/2" drive bit socket form (Titan). Most brands don't make these sizes in L wrenches at all. I usually only encounter one of the larger rare sizes when working on bicycles, motorcycles, or automotive drain fittings, so the Titan bit sockets have worked fine so far.

There's something to be said about having a "complete" set of tools.
One just never knows when that "unique situation" will arise and grind things to a halt.

 

[joel63]

I can not remember the last time I went to do maintenance on a car and did NOT have the correct tool !

It turns out that 2014 and newer Ford Edge use a STUPID bolt for the front brake calipers. 11mm hex/Allen. The 2 sets I have stop at 8mm. The 2 auto parts stores we visited stop at 10mm. Luckily Menard's had a 9mm - 15mm set for about $30.

I think you mean "@°#$!$&" I didn't need this ****!!!!!

 

[kbeefy]

Yeah BIG mistake on that one !

Some blame needs to go to the owners. If you have low coolant and no external leak, where is it going ?

When the water pump seals fail there is a passage that leads out of the block on the front side of the engine. Just behind the Alternator IIRC. A coolant leak there means it's time for a waterpump. Plan on doing at least the timing chain guides and tensioners while your in there, I would probably throw a set of chains on it as well.

 

[theoldwizard1]

When the water pump seals fail there is a passage that leads out of the block on the front side of the engine. Just behind the Alternator IIRC. A coolant leak there means it's time for a waterpump.

Does not always work !

 

[FMB4]

Reality is a pain.

 

[Mallen]

7/16 was a bit loose when I had to buy a $40 11mm. I was worried it would round out the fastener since it was so tight.

Napa has them for 5 bucks. In a pinch, get an M7 grade 12.9 bolt which has an 11mm head. Put a couple jam nuts on it. That will adapt it to a socket.

 

[Mallen]

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