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Where's the Hinsdale thread? Show em!
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Hey gang, here is something different. One of my favorite toolmongers has this up for sale, figure an image share would be interesting to those who like this thread. An 8" drawknife, 15" overall. I don't have access to it in any catalogs to verify its the same company, as the seller says Hinsdale Machine & Tool Co, which I don't think is correct, based on the stamp.
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I picked up this S-15 1/2-inch hex drive rocker rat this morning at the flea. See Pic 1. Nothing special. Quite common. Several on the thread already. I was a little surprised to see how unsubstantial it was compared to the 1/2-inch square drive rocker rat. See Pics 2 & 3. And then I remembered I already had one, sort of, in the form of the rat in the hex drive sets they were making for Damascus Steel Products Corp (DASCO). See Pic 4.
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Bit of a Hinsdale streak last couple days. The rocker rat yesterday, and snagged this very early DOE wrench this morning. I have a bunch of these from Mossberg, but this is actually the first Hinsdale I have ever seen in the wild. Like the Mossies, stamped out of 3/8" diameter steel. Pic 3 for generational perspective.
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As I mentioned elsewhere I had the distinct pleasure of picking through Twertsy's Tool Temple yesterday afternoon and walked away a little lighter in the pockets and a little heavier in the trunk. I was pretty selective, as always. The first thing on my game plan were the boxes he hides up on angle-iron shelf, because you need an extension ladder to get to them, like looing through a rich man's well-appointed library 
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...which is where I snagged this Sears Roebuck & Co Hinsdale set. I wasn't sure what it was (and frankly, neither was he, but only because he has so much stuff!), but I had my suspicions based on the shape of the box.
If you look back on page 3, posts #82 and #91, you'll see very similar sets in very similar boxes, belonging to UNAIU and OregonRockCrusher (Ed). Theirs are much more complete than mine, but I was happy to see most of the sockets, the drive plug, the screwdriver socket, and the lapper, and know I have at least a speeder handle and a few drain plug sockets laying around. The L-handle for the sheath is missing.
What's interesting is, all three are branded and marked a little different. Ed's is a Bob-Cat set. UNAIU's is a called a NICKEL CHROME "Mechanic'sSet" and his sockets are marked that way. Mine doesn't have a name, but the sockets are marked the same.
Mine is branded with a Double Guarantee Bond for Sears, Roebuck & Co. Like UNAIU's, mine has the Cadmium Rust Proof decal.
UNAIU's handle is a leather swivel clasp type, whereas mine was just the bare remains of a captive leather strap, as shown on the Bob-Cat set illustration.
If you look back on page 3, posts #82 and #91, you'll see very similar sets in very similar boxes, belonging to UNAIU and OregonRockCrusher (Ed). Theirs are much more complete than mine, but I was happy to see most of the sockets, the drive plug, the screwdriver socket, and the lapper, and know I have at least a speeder handle and a few drain plug sockets laying around. The L-handle for the sheath is missing.
What's interesting is, all three are branded and marked a little different. Ed's is a Bob-Cat set. UNAIU's is a called a NICKEL CHROME "Mechanic'sSet" and his sockets are marked that way. Mine doesn't have a name, but the sockets are marked the same.
Mine is branded with a Double Guarantee Bond for Sears, Roebuck & Co. Like UNAIU's, mine has the Cadmium Rust Proof decal.
UNAIU's handle is a leather swivel clasp type, whereas mine was just the bare remains of a captive leather strap, as shown on the Bob-Cat set illustration.
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Private Lugnutz
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The condition of the box is troubling. The interior cleaned up fine and I will leave it pretty much alone. But I'm going to have to get selectively power tool aggressive on the exterior and then touch those areas up and then blend distress/age it to match the rest of the exterior.
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Ed and UNAIU, if you're reading... I'd be curious to see if your center clasp is Excelsior.
Mintgrun
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I like shaving rust like that with a razor blade. It will take it back to flat, leaving just the rust in the pits. You can get more aggressive after that, if need be.
Private Lugnutz
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Thanks. I'll try that first.
bmwrd0
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Use the razor blade trick to get it down to flat, as Mintgrun says, and then use Ballistol to eat at the rust gently in the pits. It will keep the original look while preserving things as best they are.
In any case, a rare find, and quite beautiful.
In any case, a rare find, and quite beautiful.
Private Lugnutz
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In all the boxes I've brought home and left "as is" or prestorved I have never had one with areas quite this crusty. I usually leave those behind, but this one is just afflicted on the bottom.
I'm going to have fun making the handle myself.
I'm going to have fun making the handle myself.
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Nice find Lugz. Well spotted. I can check that for you in a few days.
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Been a while since I looked at the Bobcat set so a good chance to pull it out again. My box doesn't have a center clasp Lugz. Just the two side latches. I tried to get a pic of what is stamped on them but it is very light and the letters are mostly filled in with paint. About all I can make out on them is the USA in the center of a circular script. A couple pics. Ed.
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Doh! Thanks. I see that now, and neither does UNAIU's. And yours has the swiveling handle like his, too. So you and he have the same box. Oddly, I have the box that's shown in the Bob Cat illustration, but it's not a Bob Cat set. It has the simpler captive leather strap handle, and also the center locking clasp. The latches on mine are also Excelsior. Your latches looks like they might be Langenau. It looks like the logo is more legible on UNAIU's, so when he's done farting around in Hawaii, he can confirm.
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No one could blame you!
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This is a bit newer I think but has eagle latches
Private Lugnutz
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Yes, newer, and same as a smaller Hinsdale 3/8-inch drive box I have.
I am digging those ignition wrenches!
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Here is a Hinsdale tapper wrench
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Somewhere I have a couple of BobCat sockets. Due to the onset of glaucoma I am divesting myself of tools. If anybody wants the sockets they can have them. You just have to be patient until I find them.
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Thanks I like the raised lettering on them
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Looks like a g20 set. Sorry to hear about glaucoma. My Mom has had some stents put in seems to have brought pressure down. Was becoming a serious problem.
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Thanks. The VA is monitoring me monthly now. Trend is downwards.
bmwrd0
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Todays big find is this:
13" long, no outside name or model number.
5" wide, it is about 6" tall.
A mostly(?) complete Hinsdale set, I would guess the late 20s or early 30s. I don't know what the model number of the set is, so I cannot check it against any catalog even if there were one. Sadly, the decal is mostly destroyed, but there are more than a few extras:
A Hinsdale drag link adaptor, unmarked drive stud, and valve grinding attachment with extra tips for different valves.
The sockets are interesting:
the smaller ones are standard for this period, but not marked Hinsdale. I will put up a photo of one later. Obviously, I haven't cleaned up the set as I only purchased it today, but when done I will post up a set of cleaned-up photos.
13" long, no outside name or model number.
5" wide, it is about 6" tall.
A mostly(?) complete Hinsdale set, I would guess the late 20s or early 30s. I don't know what the model number of the set is, so I cannot check it against any catalog even if there were one. Sadly, the decal is mostly destroyed, but there are more than a few extras:
A Hinsdale drag link adaptor, unmarked drive stud, and valve grinding attachment with extra tips for different valves.
The sockets are interesting:
the smaller ones are standard for this period, but not marked Hinsdale. I will put up a photo of one later. Obviously, I haven't cleaned up the set as I only purchased it today, but when done I will post up a set of cleaned-up photos.
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Cool set, Beemer. It's neat how small the box is with just the brace-type speed wrench. It has the same center clasp as mine. See 246-248 above this page.
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Below are two excerpts from a Hinsdale catalog "binder" that Todd had hosted on TA with an odd mix of undated catalog pages believed to be early 1930's. Our sets are not Bob Cat sets (Ed has a Bob Cat set and the pieces are actually marked BOB CAT), but it's obvious Hinsdale used the same boxes for their various branding attempts (e.g., CHROME-NICKEL, BOB CAT, etc). If the binder had pages showing other sets, I am confident the boxes would be the same. See Pic 1. Your box is the same box the Bob Cat G-30 set is in. Note the handle, the center latch, and, even though they don't provide dimensions, the short speeder. (For comparison, my bigger box is the same box the bigger Bob Cat G-50 set was put in. I posted just a zoomed in handle excerpt above in post #246.) On a later page (see Pic 2), advertising the box display rack they were pushing on hardware stores, they showed both size hip roof boxes, and in this illustration, note that they put in the raised circles on the end of yours.
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Thanks, Lugz. It is obvious that mine is the G-30 set, shown as you said with the Bobcat label, and is then the set on top of the display in the second ad. I took an inventory of sockets last night, and it seems I am missing the original 1/2 and 9/16, but both had been replaced by taller Hinsdale sockets. As had been a few square drive sockets, but I don't have a good idea of what should be included with those yet. After they get out of the Evaporust bath, I will get more picks of the individual sockets so we can see the difference.
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As I've lamented before - Hinsdale is one of our most poorly documented manufacturers.
Other than the aforementioned binder of 1930's catalog pages that used to be hosted on TA, there are a few pages from a hardware store catalog and some wrench ads on IA/ITCL. tin medic has a wartime catalog, but scans from it that he had sent to Todd and the 1930's "binder" apparently did not make it to IA/ITCL. (I'll have to ask Todd and/or Stan about that.) And I'll take another jab at AA for not publishing their dang library. They have a 1933 brochure, a 16-page 1935 booklet, a 32-page 1943 catalog (not sure if that's the same as tin medic's or not), and a 34-page 1946 catalog. But if they don't publish them, it doesn't help anyone, and simply citing their references and rationale for their analysis and conclusions about the tools they are showing the claims they are making about production has proven untrustworthy without peer review.
Other than the aforementioned binder of 1930's catalog pages that used to be hosted on TA, there are a few pages from a hardware store catalog and some wrench ads on IA/ITCL. tin medic has a wartime catalog, but scans from it that he had sent to Todd and the 1930's "binder" apparently did not make it to IA/ITCL. (I'll have to ask Todd and/or Stan about that.) And I'll take another jab at AA for not publishing their dang library. They have a 1933 brochure, a 16-page 1935 booklet, a 32-page 1943 catalog (not sure if that's the same as tin medic's or not), and a 34-page 1946 catalog. But if they don't publish them, it doesn't help anyone, and simply citing their references and rationale for their analysis and conclusions about the tools they are showing the claims they are making about production has proven untrustworthy without peer review.
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Just stumbled on Tin Medic's Milwaukee Tool & Forge catalog on Internet Archive, which led me to this thread. Any scanned images or pdfs from GJ members can be sent directly to me and I will put on the Int'l Tool Catalog Library. I have Pdf Studio editing software and can crop, resize, add OCR, etc. The best way to get these to me is to put on Dropbox, Drive, or equivalent and email me the link. My email is at ITCL About (near the bottom). You can PM me but I am only on GJ sporadically.
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bmwrd0
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I would bet that is actually 9/32"
four.cycle
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^ Hinsdale isn't a line I collect, so I would have no clue. I know that trying to find 6-inch extensions for older 1/4" drive sets is like searching for the Holy Grail - I can't imagine 9/32" would be any easier.
bmwrd0
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I do collect Hinsdale, and I have never seen any 1/4" pieces. But, yes 6"ers are hard to find.
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I sent this partial midget set to Todd a few years back.
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seller re-listed the item for $10, but that's where it was originally listed before until he knocked it down to $7.50.
ITCL has exactly one page of Hinsdale - and it's wrenches.
inquiry sent to seller to confirm size.
I had assumed from your own comments about 1/4" drive 6-inch extensions, and my own dismal experiences trying to find them to complete sets, that this would have already sold.
as an aside:
several years ago I had a seller cut me a hell of a deal on a bakers dozen NOS 2833 Indestro Super 1/4" drive 6-inch extensions. I think they might be in the bottom of a box out next to the dryer. :/
ITCL has exactly one page of Hinsdale - and it's wrenches.
inquiry sent to seller to confirm size.
I had assumed from your own comments about 1/4" drive 6-inch extensions, and my own dismal experiences trying to find them to complete sets, that this would have already sold.
as an aside:
several years ago I had a seller cut me a hell of a deal on a bakers dozen NOS 2833 Indestro Super 1/4" drive 6-inch extensions. I think they might be in the bottom of a box out next to the dryer. :/
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It is 9/32" and the seller's re-listed it - $7.50 + shipping.
Hinsdale Model HXM6 9/32" drive 6-inch extension
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