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[d42jeep]

Thanks, guys. Sometimes trying to figure out Craftsman sets gives me a headache. It’s like “well we have these boxes, let’s throw some tools in them and get them out the door”.
-Don

 

[outofbounds]

Carried this (what I presume to be) Heritage badged 1/2" Socket set box with leather handle from an estate sale today at lunch. I haven't pulled out all the tools inside, but 90% of them are random BE. Would this be a period correct case at any point for those tools? If not, what may have populated it originally?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Carried this (what I presume to be) Heritage badged 1/2" Socket set box with leather handle from an estate sale today at lunch. I haven't pulled out all the tools inside, but 90% of them are random BE. Would this be a period correct case at any point for those tools? If not, what may have populated it originally?

That is a "transitional" heritage logo....introducted right after the war, these boxes were generally a mismash of tool brands as sears was ending it's involvement with New Britian and was going with Miller Drop Forge for its drive tools...The tools in the box are most likey correct for that era and are probalby original to the set. Post a few pictures when you have a moment. To explicitly answer your question- the catalogs are not detailed enough to show exact tools in certain sets... and sears did sell sets with multiple vendor made tools in the same carry box. So basically it is anyones guess as to the exact tools that came in that box aside from generic hand drawn pictures that are notoriously vague.

 

[outofbounds]

That is a "transitional" heritage logo....introducted right after the war, these boxes were generally a mismash of tool brands as sears was ending it's involvement with New Britian and was going with Miller Drop Forge for its drive tools...The tools in the box are most likey correct for that era and are probalby original to the set. Post a few pictures when you have a moment. To explicitly answer your question- the catalogs are not detailed enough to show exact tools in certain sets... and sears did sell sets with multiple vendor made tools in the same carry box. So basically it is anyones guess as to the exact tools that came in that box aside from generic hand drawn pictures that are notoriously vague.

I'll try and get those posted soon. Thanks for your Xpertise, SS!

 

[Mintgrun]

I'm not chasing this, but thought it might be fun to share here. Searching this thread did not bring one up, so here it is for your viewing pleasure.

12 Inch Swing Saw - tools - by owner - sale

Craftsman 12 inch Swing Saw with steel stand. Will cut through four inch stock on single pass. Please no texts - phone calls and emails okay.

seattle.craigslist.org

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I respectfully think it's a bit presumptive to call the predominately blue Heritage badge a "transitional" badge. The earliest post-war top and bottom chests have predominately red badges on them. I can't speak intelligently about the blue badge 1/2d clamshells (I don't have one) but I have done some experimenting with a blue badge 3/8d clamshell. You can't fit the largest socket or the universal adapter from NB or Circle U sets in the box. They just don't fit. I've cross-talked with another collector who discovered that early MDF components fit OK. The blue badges are a bit of a mystery. One possibility that I've thought of is if they were to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Craftsman name in 1947. Possible? Yes. Likely? Who knows. We have the "Power Bronze paint was to commemorate the 30th anniversary" myth, why not blue badges for the 20th? Another Craftsman mystery we'll never solve.

 

[Hoorn]

Thank you JoCo! The power bronze 30th anniversary story is a bigger myth than bigfoot, or Washington chopping down a cherry tree! And STILL not a single picture or article to corroborate it.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I respectfully think it's a bit presumptive to call the predominately blue Heritage badge a "transitional" badge. The earliest post-war top and bottom chests have predominately red badges on them. I can't speak intelligently about the blue badge 1/2d clamshells (I don't have one) but I have done some experimenting with a blue badge 3/8d clamshell. You can't fit the largest socket or the universal adapter from NB or Circle U sets in the box. They just don't fit. I've cross-talked with another collector who discovered that early MDF components fit OK. The blue badges are a bit of a mystery. One possibility that I've thought of is if they were to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Craftsman name in 1947. Possible? Yes. Likely? Who knows. We have the "Power Bronze paint was to commemorate the 30th anniversary" myth, why not blue badges for the 20th? Another Craftsman mystery we'll never solve.

Much better described than my dive into this logo. JoCo is much more educated on this subject than myself. Basically I was trying to say that this badge is somewhat mysterious and this can be difficult to reseach given the catalogs and the artistic license the illustrators took in them

 

[BradnCali]

Picked up this super clean 1955 10-drawer top box today for only $30. It will replace the 3-drawer top box that I picked up several years back as part of a set. I picked up that set for $20.

 

[Hoorn]

You stole that. Badass box. Great find Brad.

 

[BradnCali]

You stole that. Badass box. Great find Brad.

Yeah, I certainly did even though it was a bit more expensive than the original stack.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice upgrade!

 

[Cruzan80]

Just grabbed this off Craigslist, at half the price of the '52 catalog... Can you identify it?

 

[Hoorn]

Nice milling vise! Those are not easy to find nowadays.

 

[Cruzan80]

Yes, a rotary mill vise. Has both top jaws, and everything moves freely. Just needs a quick disassemble and cleaning, and it is ready to go again!

Found in the '52 catalog for 49.98, and this was $25. Listed for only 20min on Craigslist before I reached out, and guy was happy it was going to someone who would appreciate it.

Sidenote: Why did the decal guy not manage to put these on straight? It seems like every one I have seen is pretty crooked.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Yes, a rotary mill vise. Has both top jaws, and everything moves freely. Just needs a quick disassemble and cleaning, and it is ready to go again!

Found in the '52 catalog for 49.98, and this was $25. Listed for only 20min on Craigslist before I reached out, and guy was happy it was going to someone who would appreciate it.

Sidenote: Why did the decal guy not manage to put these on straight? It seems like every one I have seen is pretty crooked.

ok, you really ****! So hard to find. $25 for that is an amazing deal! Nicely done.

 

[LesserSon]

A while back, I picked up a fairly trashed crowntop machinist chest (it really does have all its drawers, though missing the front tray and some knobs) for $5, with the idea of straightening it up and repainting it earthy green. As I picked at layers of black and red paint, though, broken spotwelds started making themselves known, and there are symmetrical tears in the front, right at the bottom of the toptray. The whole had a sort of twist, leading me to suspect it had literally fallen off a truck. I suppose a good welder could stitch the tears together and tack the broken spotwelds, but I am not such a one, and had sort of let the project go dormant.

Saturday, I spotted this fellow, disguised in a coat of argentum horribilis. As I looked it over, it seemed pretty solid, just missing the badge. And the texture under the silver told me most of the original paint was still on it. The nasty-smelling green felt glued in the tray and three drawers was really the worst thing about it.
$20 brought it home, where I soaked the felt off (dark brown mucilage, yuck). Then I attacked the silver paint with dilute Simple Green and a brass brush. I think I got about 80% of it off, but there’s some tenaciously clinging in the bottoms of the original crinkle, giving it a splotchy look.
So now it’s ready for a repaint..or not? Except for the silver residue and some scrapes, it has most of its original color, though the bottom is missing a lot (beyond the borders of this picture).

The drawers, surprisingly, have the least paint on their fronts.

Seems to match 99C06519, $16.95 on p27 of the 1949 catalog. Guess I’ll put the slides back in and think it over.

 

[tombell572]

Cruzan80--that's a nice rotary table at a killer price. They were made by Palmgren which now sadly manufactures offshore.

Tom B.

 

[Cruzan80]

Yes, as I was talking with the guy, I noticed a small angle vise on his bench. Let him know the same people made those. We didn't spot the CM badge at first, until I wiped it with a damp rag (knew where to look).

 

[outofbounds]

That is a "transitional" heritage logo....introducted right after the war, these boxes were generally a mismash of tool brands as sears was ending it's involvement with New Britian and was going with Miller Drop Forge for its drive tools...The tools in the box are most likey correct for that era and are probalby original to the set. Post a few pictures when you have a moment. To explicitly answer your question- the catalogs are not detailed enough to show exact tools in certain sets... and sears did sell sets with multiple vendor made tools in the same carry box. So basically it is anyones guess as to the exact tools that came in that box aside from generic hand drawn pictures that are notoriously vague.

Smoke, These are the BE tools that I found inside, after weeding out all the **** in there with. My guess is this box was designed to hold 1/2 Drive and 3/8 Drive. I found a 1/2 drive BE ratchet hidden elsewhere in the garage on a return visit, and when I explained that the ratchet went with the box I bought the day before, they gave it to me for $5.00

 

[ed4banger]

Smoke, These are the BE tools that I found inside, after weeding out all the **** in there with. My guess is this box was designed to hold 1/2 Drive and 3/8 Drive. I found a 1/2 drive BE ratchet hidden elsewhere in the garage on a return visit, and when I explained that the ratchet went with the box I bought the day before, they gave it to me for $5.00

Looks like a 1/2" box to me. Would not have mixed 1/2 and 3/8 in this type of box.View attachment 1521724View attachment 1521725

 

[JoCoSawdust]

That's an interesting Heritage machinist chest Lesserson. I've not seen that one before. Nice find.

 

[outofbounds]

Looks like a 1/2" box to me. Would not have mixed 1/2 and 3/8 in this type of box.View attachment 1521725

Great looking set, Ed! Thanks for the input. I thought maybe it would because of the fact I found both sizes in the box, and the narrower front socket channel.

 

[ed4banger]

Great looking set, Ed! Thanks for the input. I thought maybe it would because of the fact I found both sizes in the box, and the narrower front socket channel.

Smallest socket in 1/2" set would be a 7/16" I guess, check fit with that, might tell you something.

 

[saukit]

I got this heritage box off of Craigslist a while back, can anyone point me in the right direction for dating old tool boxes like this one? I use Alloy Artifacts for wrenches and ratchets, not sure if there is an equivalent for boxes. This one's in really nice shape, I might give it a bit of a scrub and lube the slides but otherwise it doesn't need much.

 

[Cruzan80]

Possibly dated behind the logo. Look inside the drawer from the inside.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Around 1950. Maybe too early to show a date. I have the same one and no date on mine. Yours is nicer!

 

[BradnCali]

This box just showed up this morning on FB marketplace this morning so since I had an extra top box, I quickly snagged it. Sadly, I don’t have the floor space to keep it so I will be letting the stack go once I have a chance to clean it up a bit and put some paraffin on the friction slides. The last photo shows my two heritage stacks side by side.

Brad

 

[Ricky Joe]

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This box just showed up this morning on FB marketplace this morning so since I had an extra top box, I quickly snagged it. Sadly, I don’t have the floor space to keep it so I will be letting the stack go once I have a chance to clean it up a bit and put some paraffin on the friction slides. The last photo shows my two heritage stacks side by side.

Brad

Today I picked this up at Habitat for $80.

 

[TexTJ209]

I've had this for a bit now but never added it to this thread. Intact and as far as I can tell, basically unused mid 1950s torch kit.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That is cool. I would be tempted to use it.

 

[Mintgrun]

These were taped together, sitting at the bottom of the scrap metal bin. The teller did not charge me for the bread pan full of little tools I dug out that day. I'd have filled a bucket, if I'd known it was going to be free. VANADIUM BB I hope I put them in the right thread.

 

[outofbounds]

Curious to know if this is an original paint job or not. I'm not familiar with the Color

 

[Smokeshow69]

Curious to know if this is an original paint job or not. I'm not familiar with the Color

That’s a repaint. The inside of that cover is the original gray color

 

[outofbounds]

That’s a repaint. The inside of that cover is the original gray color

Thanks. For $65.00 I'll pass on that https://www.facebook.com/marketplac...eed_ranking_signature":"3342557366104096768"}

 

[bmwrd0]

Yeah, I pretty much pass on any repaints I come across. I found a nice Dunlap machinist chest not too long ago, but it was a repaint, so I will keep looking.

 

[bmwrd0]

Picked up this stack today:



The front of the top box needs a little attention, but mostly what you see is light sawdust. The paint is original and very clean overall. It still has the original carry tray.

 

[Username already in use]

@bmwrd0 excellent find. That’s in fantastic shape.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Picked up this stack today:



The front of the top box needs a little attention, but mostly what you see is light sawdust. The paint is original and very clean overall. It still has the original carry tray.

No way . Dude that is a rare top chest. That logo is a first gen heritage. That is a heck of a find and in amazing shape! Is this that surprise you hinted at ? This isn’t common at all. Where, why, how?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Very nice!