2021 Garage Sale Thread

[LesserSon]

LS, that orange tool looks to me like a Lyman chamfering tool, used for reloading ammunition. If it's about 1/2" wide, even moreso - got to get over a .45ACP (among others...) case mouth.

Thanks, but the business end looks like every countersink bit I’ve seen (which do vary in angle to accomodate different designs of flat head screws). The chamfering tool pics online show a blunt point, whereas countersink bits come to a fairly sharp point. In practice, I find boring the countersink first and then drilling a hole in its center makes a smoother countersink (less vibration and hopping) than dilling holes first and countersinking after. I mean in wood, which has uneven density, unlike metal.
EDIT - on second thoughts, they are essentially the same thing, and there are countersink bits with blunt points, or piloting points, etc. So it seems that whatever their proper name, chamfering brass casings is one use of such tools, and countersinking flat head screws is another.

 

[jeffmoss26]

I’ll see if I have a key

No luck yet. Still looking

 

[Private Lugnutz]

On vacation, in between rain drops. Been hitting second hand stores.

Our kind of picker!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Today's flea trip (Lugz 2021_56) was blessed, as if from On High. The forecast called for rain, with thunderstorms later in the morning, but I took a chance, arrived at 0600, and waited out a 20 minute shower in the dark with the rest of the pros and regglers. Dawn broke, the clouds skirted away, and it was cool, clear, and beautiful, and, best of all, nearly empty - absent everyone except the truly committed sellers and buyers.

I picked up that nested saw outfit on consignment for someone offboard who has been looking for one for a long time to complete a large C.E. Jennings toolchest. Elated to be a part of that.

The water pump pliers are wartime Champion De, which I will flip.

The Bonney combos are later than collect, and I will flip.

The screwdriver is a sentimental lark purchase, from Grant's.

That little nested Auto Kit set type wrench is a Wakefield Wizard. First one I have ever seen in the wild.

And the DOE with the bend in the shank is a wartime Fairmount ISN 25.

 

[Tools4Me]

Had a great start, but then it was few and far between.

First sale I picked up the following:

Blacksmith Tongs
SK extension
Countersink spinner?
Snap on T handle
Blacksmith stage
Bluepoint Flexible Adjusting Tool
Cornwell Speeder Handle
Cornwell drum brake tool
*Not shown horse whip and 6' flexible drill for running wires in walls.

$15 total

I just said in a different post, I have never run across a Cornwell tool, and today I ran across 2.

If nobody else has mentioned it yet, that yellow handled tool is a dogleg deburring tool. I have one and they are quite handy. Primarily used in the aircraft industry. The handle shaft should be threaded 1/4-28 female (and the deburring bit 1/4-28 threaded male) so the bit can be changed out.

 

[freudianfloyd]

If nobody else has mentioned it yet, that yellow handled tool is a dogleg deburring tool. I have one and they are quite handy. Primarily used in the aircraft industry. The handle shaft should be threaded 1/4-28 female (and the deburring bit 1/4-28 threaded male) so the bit can be changed out.

Thank you for that info. I figured it was a deburring tool or a countersink tool. I picked it up both because it was somewhat unusual and because I figured it would come in handy once in a while.

 

[Old Radar]

Slim pickin's (for me) today at the estate sale of a guy who had a lot of '30s-'40' era flatbed pickup trucks in various (but early) stages of restoration. Most were disembodied engines and frames with the bodies scattered in the yard. Sadly for me, he used mostly offshore tools. He had some craftsman wrenches but they were modern era.

I've been keeping my eye out for a replacement battery charger for my electrolysis tank and talked them down to $5 for this one.

The only other thing of note was the Stanley No. 97 Marking Gage. $1. These were made from 1900-1958 with the later ones having a more modern (simpler) logo. I've seen my style with the Sweetheart marking on the knurled knob. Mine doesn't have that but I don't know if it is earlier or later than the SH era.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I forgot to mention the carpenters' scribe/edge gauge. As you guys know I am not much of a sawdust maker. So somebody do some 'splaining. I see these all the time, of course, they're so common, and I actually have one by askident (it was left in that WWI Benet-Mercie machine gun ammo box I picked up a few years ago that someone was using as a toolbox...), but I have never seen one like this before. The type I see commonly are pretty simple. Just two pieces you slide manually. This one has two thumbnuts and the body is threaded with that brass sliding piece. Is it just a fancier kind of common? Or something special? And lastly, can anyone tell who made it? No markings.

 

[RTM]

The only other thing of note was the Stanley No. 97 Marking Gage. $1. These were made from 1900-1958 with the later ones having a more modern (simpler) logo. I've seen my style with the Sweetheart marking on the knurled knob. Mine doesn't have that but I don't know if it is earlier or later than the SH era.

With that script logo, I would say much earlier than Sweetheart era. Look at catalog covers, you can see it disappears very early in your posted era.

 

[RTM]

I forgot to mention the carpenters' scribe/edge tool. As you guys know I am not much of a sawdust maker. So somebody do some 'splaining. I see these all the time, of course, they're so common, and I actually have one by askident (it was left in that WWI Benet-Mercie machine gun ammo box I picked up a few years ago that someone was using as a toolbox...), but I have never seen one like this before. The type I see commonly are pretty simple. Just two pieces you slide manually. This one has two thumbnuts and the body is threaded with that brass sliding piece. Is it just a fancier kind of common? Or something special? And lastly, can anyone tell who made it? No markings.

That one is called a mortise gauge, for marking both sides of a mortise or tenon at the same time. Set the far side on your board, set the chisel width as your interdistance, and mark. Lot made them, I will look harder at details for a manufacturer later.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, RTM.

I also forgot to mention the smoking pipe. If you guys even saw that it was a smoking pipe. And because we don't really have a thread for smoking pipes (nor would or should we, I guess! haha), I will post some photos here. It's not at all off topic because I found it in an old toolbox. I have found quite a few cool smoking pipes in toolboxes. My pop had a sophisticated lazy susan sort of thing for his pipes, but I guess some oldtimers just threw them in their toolboxes. Or maybe they kept them there because they didn't want their old ladies to know they were still smoking!

It's the funkiest pipe I have ever seen. Apparently called a folding or pocket pipe. The stem is vulcanite, as you would expect for this era. The bowl is rusticated briarwood. It's round but also flat. And it's marked "ROLEX BRIAR ITALY." Not being the kind of guy who would wear a Rolex, I have no idea if there's a connection.

Some photos below and Pic 6 for my collection. Those sewn leather-clad bowl pipes were made in Deauville, France. The coffin case is unmarked.

 

[LesserSon]

Is the wood of the mortise guage black? Is it a coating/stain, or the actual wood itself? Is it dense, or light? The grain seems too open for ebony, but that would be pretty cool.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It doesn't look like a stain or paint to me. The surface is very tight and the wood itself is hard. Next to impossible to score even a nick with my thumbnail, and difficult even with a dull blade. There are a few chips in the sliding block. But I'm no wood expert. I'll throw it in my truck and if I get over to Qtown this fall you can assess it yourself.

 

[bmwrd0]

I planned three stops, but the first was a bust so I hit a couple TOO's:

Hammer handle and Starret micrometer at the first for $5, Toyota tools, Thorsen breaker bar, Snap-on socket, unknown p2 driver, and an antique balm package for my wife's collection $8. By the way, if you come across Toyota tools, pick them up. Pretty easy to flip.

Then I hit one of the stops on my list. And for once, a farm sale turned out good! Usually, they are filled with overpriced garbage, as farmers tend not to let good things go, while at the same time they know the value of a buck. But anyway, this sale had lots of rusty gold, and I might head back later.

Warner and Swasey lathe emblem, Dunlap water pump pliers, most of a Proto puller (I have the rest), Xcelite hanging nutdriver rack with almost all the drivers, and a bar of 50/50 solder. $10

The last stop was in a retirement community, and while there were tools, nothing was worth picking up.

 

[RTM]

I planned three stops, but the first was a bust so I hit a couple TOO's:

By the way, if you come across Toyota tools, pick them up. Pretty easy to flip.

What, we don't get to see the Toyota Tools? My dad used to sell Toyota Forklifts, and his shop had a stack of those bags. Every so often, he'd get tools like lug nut wrenches, for forklifts, that actually fit the front axle nuts on a Fiat. Lifesaving tool when you needed to put a big cheater on a 30+mm socket, to have the huge diameter bar there so you didn't fear it breaking when you stood on the cheater pipe.

 

[Robertel1]

It doesn't look like a stain or paint to me. The surface is very tight and the wood itself is hard. Next to impossible to score even a nick with my thumbnail, and difficult even with a dull blade. There are a few chips in the sliding block. But I'm no wood expert. I'll throw it in my truck and if I get over to Qtown this fall you can assess it yourself.

hi Lug,

I’m thinking it could be Ironwood (maybe ?)
I’ve got some Ironwood, tough stuff I’ll tell you !
anyway just a thought.

 

[RTM]

It doesn't look like a stain or paint to me. The surface is very tight and the wood itself is hard. Next to impossible to score even a nick with my thumbnail, and difficult even with a dull blade.

Poking through the Wayback Machine at a buddy's old site, I think we can eliminate Stanley as the maker. Guessing on the wood, I would say rosewood was the high end choice, beech the low end, with boxwood in between. Quite an easy choice between the rosewood and the other two. Seems rosewood was the choice for many makers.

Stanley Tools Catalogue No. 34 : 1914 : Stanley Rule & Level Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

149 p., illus., 18.7 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

The Stanley Gage Page

web.archive.org

The big deal to eliminate Stanley is their rosewood ones all seemed to have brass wear plates, like the moustache on the #77 linked above. I looked at all the rosewood ones on the WM pages, and all had wear bars.

Yours is single sided, with the marking points only on one side, correct?

I fear this will get into way too deep of a rabbit hole. Patent categories include 33/43. 33/43, and 33/ 44 so far, and D10/64. This is sort of the ratcheting wrench of the woodworking world. I pull away from this thread, and if I find more, start a new one in Vintage Tools, and post some images of others too.

 

[bmwrd0]

What, we don't get to see the Toyota Tools? My dad used to sell Toyota Forklifts, and his shop had a stack of those bags. Every so often, he'd get tools like lug nut wrenches, for forklifts, that actually fit the front axle nuts on a Fiat. Lifesaving tool when you needed to put a big cheater on a 30+mm socket, to have the huge diameter bar there so you didn't fear it breaking when you stood on the cheater pipe.

Unfortunately, it isn't full, and believe me, I looked! But the older Toyota stuff, especially with the name Toyopet in Kanji goes for decent money online.

 

[RTM]

Oh. like this one? Pulled it out of the same box as the 9/32" Snap-on

 

[bmwrd0]

Hey, that is pretty nice!

 

[Provincial]

bmw, what is the bar laying on the Proto puller?

 

[bmwrd0]

That is the one puller arm that came with it. I pick up Proto puller parts whenever I come across them, so I had more than enough spares to get a complete setup.

 

[Provincial]

Duh!! I didn't recognize it on edge. I'd have seen it in profile.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I’m thinking it could be Ironwood

Thanks for the suggestion, Robert.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Seems rosewood was the choice for many makers.

Thanks. I did find quite a few on places like etsy that people were identifying as ebony. Whether or not that's true I don't know, but it was interesting to discover that ebony seems to be the common choice of wood for new mortise gauges being made today by a few manufacturers making fine woodworking tools, kind of a neat trend in its own right that I was ignorant of. See Penn, Rockler, and Infinity.

 

[LesserSon]

bmwrd0
From the burgundy-colored wood-handled P2 screwdrivers I’ve seen, I would guess Stanley, Bridgeport, Bonney - in that order. Sometimes lightly stamped on the widest flat of the grip. Otherwise, the license number (1=Stanley, 7=Bridgeport) of the OEM is stamped into the shank with the patent number for most of that era.

Also, jealous of the Xcelite hanger!

 

[LesserSon]

Lugz
I look forward to seeing you again, if we rendezvous in Qtown.
Ebony is black, sometimes streaked, and smooth. From reviewing your photos, I’m leaning toward ebony.
Rosewood is reddish, grainier. It can resemble walnut, but the real tell is that it smells faintly of roses, most noticeably inside closed containers like boxes or capped hollow tool handles.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

the license number (1=Stanley, 7=Bridgeport) of the OEM is stamped into the shank with the patent number for most of that era.

I'll save you guys the $30 for one of my Lugnutz Learner's by sharing the rest of the known Phillips license correlations I have observed, which is helpful when there are no brand markings...



1 = Stanley/Blue-Point
2 = IRWIN/Apex
3, 4, 5, and 6 = Unknown
7 = BHM
8 = Bonney

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I look forward to seeing you again, if we rendezvous in Qtown.

Likewise.

Ebony is black, sometimes streaked, and smooth. From reviewing your photos, I’m leaning toward ebony.

Thanks for the inclination.

 

[gearhead1960]

Thanks, RTM.

I also forgot to mention the smoking pipe. If you guys even saw that it was a smoking pipe. And because we don't really have a thread for smoking pipes (nor would or should we, I guess! haha), I will post some photos here. It's not at all off topic because I found it in an old toolbox. I have found quite a few cool smoking pipes in toolboxes. My pop had a sophisticated lazy susan sort of thing for his pipes, but I guess some oldtimers just threw them in their toolboxes. Or maybe they kept them there because they didn't want their old ladies to know they were still smoking!

It's the funkiest pipe I have ever seen. Apparently called a folding or pocket pipe. The stem is vulcanite, as you would expect for this era. The bowl is rusticated briarwood. It's round but also flat. And it's marked "ROLEX BRIAR ITALY." Not being the kind of guy who would wear a Rolex, I have no idea if there's a connection.

Some photos below and Pic 6 for my collection. Those sewn leather-clad bowl pipes were made in Deauville, France. The coffin case is unmarked.

Lugz,

In an earlier age, good briar pipes carried quite the value on fleabay. I don't keep up on that, but it might be worth the look if you are flipping it.....and while you are looking maybe you can use one of these.....LOL

 

[Private Lugnutz]

In an earlier age, good briar pipes carried quite the value on fleabay.

Thanks!

 

[duddly]

I'm posting this with a heavy heart...
As much as I love old tools, restoring, collecting anything and everything related to it, it takes up too much of my time and I am struggling to keep up with the everyday basics such as cleaning my home, cooking etc. So something has to give.
Therefore I have decided I will be getting rid of my life long collection.
Below is a list of what's available. Serious inquiries only please and don't insult me with lowball offers.
Thanks for reading and understanding.
1. Dustpan and brush
2. Sponges
3. Dusters
4. Mop and bucket
5. Window cleaner
6. Vacuum
7. Dishwashing liquid
8. Laundry detergent
9. Fabric softener
10. Laundry baskets
11. Toilet brush
12. Cleaning sprays
13. Scrubbing brushes

 

[Private Lugnutz]

So something has to give.

And you made the right choice!

Hahaha. First good belly laugh of the day and a very cleverly cruel post! My first thought, three lines in, was one of shock and sadness. My second thought, five lines in, as a former thread host, was, 'How will Beemer handle this? On one hand sales ads are not cool. On the other hand, it's Duds, a GS thread veteran.' Then I got to the list. Hee hee.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

My pickins this morning at the flea (Lugz 2021_57) were pretty thin.



Another pair of Channellock pliers I didn't have.

A solo Ronson 'Art Metal Company' auto-kit style wrench. (If you're saying to yourself, "Ronson? The hood ornaments, lighters, and lighter fluid 'Ronson'?", the answer is yes!) There were three others in the set, unfortunately.

The ignition wrench at the bottom is a "foster's". I think I've maybe seen one or two in the wild before.

The piece in the middle is a BELL SYSTEM tool. I think it's a simple wire stripper.

 

[bmwrd0]

Well, I would handle it like I have handled it in the past; a gentle reminder that this isn't a sales thread, links to areas on GJ that are for sales, and a wish for a good sale.

That said, I may be in need of a good dog house, considering that my collection is overflowing and I am being given the side-eye. But, I have not reached the preset limits of our marriage, the "only one non-functioning vehicle allowed, Herr BMW!"

And seeing that there is a 7 on that woody, we shall move it to the BPM area.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I was thinking of you and the other Beaver Fever folks when I spotted this LEAVE-BEHIND this morning, Beemer.

 

[FMB4]

@ duddley. Our thoughts are with you during your incredibly difficult decision. How you were able to let go of such cherished possessions is beyond me. Let your strength lead us forward...

 

[d42jeep]

We were busy yesterday so this morning we went to the second day of an estate sale in Zephyr Cove, NV. There were a few items worth grabbing and with the near miss of the Caldor fire, we thought it would be a good idea to grab a couple of fire extinguishers. The gas can spout looked wartime and the thick 12” Crescent wrench was early and covered with a tar like substance. It cleaned off with some difficulty. The claw hammer was a Stanley. The little screwdriver was a Snap-on 50th anniversary model.
Here is a WW2 image of the Jeep can spout and the Crescent wrench cleaned up.
-Don

 

[Catfishdan]

Unfortunately, it isn't full, and believe me, I looked! But the older Toyota stuff, especially with the name Toyopet in Kanji goes for decent money online.

I bought One of those tool rolls, full, for 5 bucks and sold it off for around $260. I was fairly surprised.

 

[bmwrd0]

Todays finds.

The first stop billed itself as a sportsman's sale, and it was. Just not enough that I was interested in. Pith helmet and vintage cartridge boxes. $5


The second stop ended up being a bit of a walk, but worth it. Hazet metric DOEs, Case honing oil, vintage shotgun cleaner, Stanley hardware, upholstery nails, P&C flex, SK swivel, Snap-on ratchet, Williams Combo, Dunlap PH1, and an almost complete SpeedMaster socket set, only missing the 1/2". All of that for $11. And to carry all of that out she gave me a very beat up Dunlap box:


The next four stops were duds, but I found a vintage Xmas tree stand at the very last stop for a tenner: